Talk:My Chemical Romance

Not from Jersey City

My Chemical Romance ARE NOT from "Jersey City". The majority of them are from Belleville, NJ. I think there should just be New Jersey. Bob is from Chicago! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 96.245.83.133 (talk) 18:30, 20 September 2008 (UTC) www.janeway.blog.cz (slowakai website)

But the original MCR [Matt, not Bob] are from Belleville/Kearny NJ. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.238.252.115 (talk) 17:37, 1 November 2008 (UTC)

It is saying that the band started in Jersy City, not all the members.(68.91.223.155 (talk) 21:53, 7 January 2009 (UTC))

"Stay" song

THE OFFICAL NAME IS "SOMEONE OUT THERE" FANS STARTED REALIZING THIS BECAUSE GERARD WISPERED SOMEONE OUT THERE IN FRANKS EAR AND THEY PLAYED IT ON THE BLACK PARADE IS DEAD DVD

No, it's called Stay Awake. It says it on they're Bebo page. YAY!! MCR support Make A Wish! (nothing to do with subject, but I think it should e included in the article :) —Preceding unsigned comment added by RedXII (talk • contribs) 19:27, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Yeah it is called Stay Awake. Definitly. 18/1/08 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.218.120 (talk) 06:18, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

on their website, gerard posted on the 6th of february that it had been raining while they were recording in L.A. but this was posted after the recording of desolation row, does this mean that they are recording a new record, or, gerard sent his message after desoltion rows recording? anyone care to elaborate? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Aideno64 (talk • contribs) 13:44, 7 February 2009 (UTC)

I don't quite get you, if you mean are they recording a new album, the answers yes, and stay will be on that album, but they're barely even started on that, They've got The World Is Ugly and Stay Awake, the only two defnite songs to be on there, and Desolation Row, as far as I know is hanging in the balance. And yes, they have recorded a definite version of Stay, and it was after the Desolation Row video was finished.

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15:47, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Forth Album Name

Gerard Announced the fourth album name..."Lost Memories For The Both Of Us" sholdn't that be written down? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.226.173.112 (talk) 23:53, 27 February 2009 (UTC)

Venganza should be removed from the Studio Album section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.141.229.132 (talk) 15:52, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

The sources that say that MCR are emo are not trustworthy

In most cases, when the band is referred to as emo, it is by an article which is targeted against them. They are using the word as an insult, not an actual description of their genre. And they themselves reject the term "emo". And as a musical genre, they most certainly are not emo. Their lyrics are emoish and they dress to the emo style, but their music sounds more like a fusion of Power-Pop/Pop-Punk and Hard Rock. Most people who call them emo are not really aware of what emo is in the musical sense and judge it entirely by lyrics and dress style, which doesn't define the style of their music. You can say that they dress to match the emo style or anything like that, but as a musical genre they are far from emo. --PokeOnic (talk) 17:49, 26 May 2008 (UTC)

It doesnt matter what they say, wikipedia is based on verifiable second and thrid party sources not personal opinion. Rolling Stone, MTV, NME and allmusicguide are just about the four biggest authorities on music. If they say they are emo then as far as wikipedia is concerned they are. --neonwhite user page talk 22:10, 27 May 2008 (UTC)

I don't think MTV, NME, or Rolling Stone can be called reliable sources. And allmusicguide has a bad habit of mixing up music genres anyway. I mean, I think the band would know what they're own style of music is. I think that if they don't want to be called emo it's not our place to decide they're music for them, what better source than the band it's self. Besides, alot of bands that aren't emo are called emo, Underoath for example.Emo777 (talk) 09:41, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, My Chemical Romances' band members would be able to say whether they are emo, which they always say theyre not, and they would know their own genre!

Artists' interviews cannot be considered reliable; MTV, NME, Rolling Stone and allmusic.com, instead, are indipendent sources and thisfor trustworthy. {Sirabder87}^{Static age} 12:20, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

Bands are definitely not the authorities on their own music because a lot of time the band itself may not understand what makes a certain genre. If you let the band decide what their genre is, then Avril Lavigne and Good Charlotte would both be punk. Tithonfury (talk) 18:58, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

Now I know that allmuisc isn't that reliable. Besides, those sources only use other peoples opinions. Besides, just because a band dresses like emo and they're lyrics are similar dosen't make them emo. I mean, they still like certain elements of emo music.Emo777 (talk) 06:58, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

MTV, NME, Rolling Stone, and, although I hate to say it, Allmusic.com are considered reliable as far as wikipedia is concerned. If you don't like the reliability of a source I think that WP:RSN is the place to take it up.13Tawaazun14 (talk) 20:42, 31 May 2008 (UTC)

So, we've established that the four biggest sources used on wikipedia have unanimously voted My Chemical Romance as emo, then why is the genre not in the infobox? James25402 (talk) 01:27, 1 June 2008 (UTC)

WesleyDodds undid the revision, now emo genre is there back. {Sirabder87}^{Static age} 16:49, 2 June 2008 (UTC)

As has been requested, I'm bringing the matter back to the talk page here. I relise there seems to be a consensus to note that the band is Emo, however there have been several discussions whereby it's been determined that the band is not. My largest area of concern is people saying "the reference says so". Well, as I pointed out to Neon White, which one? And have any of you actually read it? The only one I could find that does call them emo is AMG, which is disgustingly inaccurate and all over the place (Until a little while ago, they listed Kenny Rodgers as punk, pop and not country... sure, let's put that on Wikipedia). Rolling Stone says there are similarities to a sub-sect of punk, and says it's similar in ways to emo. That's different o saying they are emo. That's like saying Prince Phillip is the Queen because he's around her all the time. The band's profile/page on NME doesn't cite any musical styles at all Probably because they have the better sense than to try to pigeon hole musical artists. Several newspaper articles on the web do refer to the band as Emo, but look carefully at the writer of the article. Is the person who wrote the article a music reviewer? Or are they covering the tabloid headline about Hannah Bond? Tabloid writers will write whatever they want to make the story sound as lush and juicy as possible in order to prompt more purchases. I can't find one resource that would be considered to be "reliable" call the band Emo, with the exception of AMG, but seriously, their reputation is vastly overrated based on horrendous and erroneous inaccuracies and fallacies. --rm 'w avu 09:37, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

They are all listed below. "the reference says so" is essentially the verifiability policy. --neon white talk 16:53, 13 June 2008 (UTC)

That's your personal opinion, I(as many others) would believe what they state themselves to be true, but as MTV and other companies write, MCR's genres include Emo.

as long as The Daily Mail doesn't become a valid source (Please don't tell me it is) - I'm fine with what the companies like MTV describe it as; Let bands be the genre they are described as, as long as the description isn't as far off as calling pop for death metal, it shouldn't make a too big difference if they're punk-rock or emo(SOME difference, yes - But not a difference large enough for it to require 'Wishing people dead', 'exessive swearing', and so on and so on(Read comments on this page for examples of both))

Borderline to gay? Gay isn't a music genre(to person above)

Zevvi (talk) 23:30, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Of course they're emo. Anything scene kids listen to are considered emo, because everything just HAS to be such. Emo isn't even real emo anymore; we made our own genre out of an already existing one. Fuck Wikipedias bullshit standards, it's fucking stupid. If sources say the sky is green should we change that? Fucking idiots. Blindeffigy (talk) 13:25, 1 October 2008 (UTC)

Can't we just settle this by calling them Alternative? All of they're albums are classed as Alternative in iTunes and Windows Media Player, although a few song are in the "Emo Essentials" in iTunes. It's weird but they are emo, but to end it, why not call them Alternative?? RedXII ^{(Talk :: Contribs)} 19:16, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

MY CHEMICAL ROMANCE ARE NOT EMO GET OVER IT EVERYONE AND GET A LIFE from the MCRmy p.s and im not coming back to see what you people say to this. all though some idiot will delete this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.97.218.120 (talk) 06:21, 18 January 2009 (UTC) My Chemcial Romance is emo Seth4000 (talk) 10:20, 20 January 2009 (UTC)Seth4000

Yeah, come one! MCR is fucking not emo! You know Gerard himself even called the whole emo thing "a pile of shit", so why does everyone think they are emo? I suppose how they dress could be considered emo, but what the hell? Are we judging bands on how they DRESS now? MCR IS NOT EMO! ~ cars_for_queens

MCR is emo there lyrics and there clothes and hair r fucking emo Seth4000 (talk) 8:46, 21 January 2009 (UTC)Seth4000

MCR has one or two songs that could fall under 'emo'. However, the bulk of their work could easily fall under 'emo pop'. (Albert Mond (talk) 20:57, 11 February 2009 (UTC))

MCR is not Emo. They say they are not. That means they are not. Red Hot Chili Peppers used to have rap vocals on early CDs. Does that make RHCP rap? No. —Preceding unsigned comment added by AJester (talk • contribs) 05:06, 13 February 2009 (UTC)

no it doesn't, see the list of sources. --neon white talk 20:14, 13 February 2009 (UTC) 23:05, 25 February 2009 (UTC)They ARE EMO!!! But does it realy matter? I mean, dont insult emos, just because of this this. Now that is just wrong! Alot of emos are indenial about it, and say their "punk" when their far from it. O well if my chemical romance is like that. Thats good for them, but who ever is saying their not emo, ur probably an emo who wants to be punk to. But just stop this! They are now get over it, of course not all their music is emo but their personality/genre/style whatever you want to call it is emo. And "whatever scene kids listen to is emo" isnt true, they listen to pop, alternative/emo, punk, wat evr they want. Dont bring the scenes into an emo fight. They didnt do anything ~a person —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.253.67 (talk)

Change the good damn thing.Has Anybody Seen My Disco Stick? 05:09, 24 March 2009 (UTC)

Band Members - Role Designations Inaccurate?

The "Band Members" section lists Toro and Iero as "lead guitar" and "rhythm guitar" respectively, but there are no citations for this and off the top of my head I can think of two songs where Iero plays lead guitar - the recording of "Early Sunsets Over Monroeville" is described in Life on the Murder Scene and Iero's part is clearly indicated as being the melodic one, and in the music video for "Ghost of You" he can be seen playing the melodic part as well. While I would concede that during their live shows Iero does tend to play the rhythm parts to Toro's lead (and the latter plays most of the solos), it seems to me that it would be more accurate to list "guitar, vocals" for both of them. Iamaportmanteau (talk) 20:41, 1 December 2008 (UTC)

I don't think they have specific roles in the band, just general guitar, but Toro plays the majority of lead in the band. Most solos are played by Toro, and so I think Toro should be the lead. The only way to settle this would be to look on the MCR ite, but since it changed to a blog, it doesn't tell you. RedXII ^{(Talk :: Contribs)} 19:10, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Band Picture

How come the picture only shows 3 of the members. Ray and Frank are missing. Could I suggest using one of the shots of all 5 members that can be found on Google (http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=my+chemical+romance&gbv=2) I'm sure most of them are open source. I don't mean the stylised ones with effects and stuff, just the plain photos. Just a suggestion, thanks. RedXII ^{(Talk :: Contribs)} 19:06, 2 January 2009 (UTC)

Emo

For those who say they are not emo, what about the line in 'Dead,' where it says "Wouldn't it be great to take a pistol to the head and wouldn't it be great if we were dead." I don't care, either way, I like them, but just throwing it out there.68.91.223.155 (talk) 21:57, 7 January 2009 (UTC)

Emo is a style of music, the lyrics aren't musical style. Zazaban (talk) 02:33, 8 January 2009 (UTC)

I wan't you to listen to 'Ooh Do I Love You' by Cap'n Jazz, a REAL emo band, and 'Dead' by My Chemical Romance and TRY to say they exist in the same genre. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.222.218.248 (talk) 03:56, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

Welcome to Wikipedia, have a look at WP:OR WP:V and WP:RS. We go by reliable, third-party, published sources. Not by yours or anyone's opinion. Reliable sources call this band emo and that is all that matters. Landon1980 (talk) 04:24, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

They are not Emo. They are Post-Hardcore/Pop Punk. Their music is not suicidal. Gerard said. ====They are emo, get over it! And idc about those other bands, their prob horrible pop. My Chemical Romance is NOT PUNK OR POP! I cant believe people would say that. All those people who dont even listen to the music and hate it who say their punk need to stop commenting cause your wrong. I take this as an offense, their my favorite band and the first emo alternative band i liked. If your realy a fan, get over it! Do you think theres something wrong with being emo?====No I don't think there is anything wrong with being emo. But Emo=Emotive Hardcore. Emotive Hardcore is kinda the same as Post-Hardcore, but P-H isn't as emotional as EH. I think their songs are emotional, like Helena, but it's NOT emo. So, YOU get over it. AND The Black Parade is pop punk, how can you call that emo? If they are your fave band, you would back them up and hate the Daily Mail. MCR forever and Daily Mail never!

Songs that haven't been posted

I wanted to edit some grammar mistakes in the MCR wiki page but seeing that it has been blocked off, I give up trying, anywho.

I wanted to know if whoever locked it could allow us to post songs and such by the band that have not been released on any albums as well as their new tracks, like Desolation Row...

Some live songs that need to be posted are those such as Jack the Ripper and the first version of Disenchanted as well as their cover songs: Song 2 and Astro Zombies, as well as the latest released.

I'm not saying put a section listing every track they have made, just those that haven't been included in albums....

What does everyone think of that?

Anyone have other songs to list? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griva002 (talk • contribs) 10:50, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Also, I forgot to add... If I ever find the link, I would like to post that Gerard has expressed personal dislike for the song Cubicles, saying that it is the worst song he has ever written and also calling it an embarrassment of a song and that the band will never perform that live again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Griva002 (talk • contribs) 10:53, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

New Song

the new song "Desolation Row" should be put up. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Failureatdeath (talk • contribs) 01:23, 10 February 2009 (UTC)

In the My Chemical Romance Album Won't Be A 'Kitchen Sink' Affair interview a song from the new album is mentioned "New Hair, Same Shit(the "shit" is assumed)" this should be part of the Future Plans section, no?

Gerard Said it is a working title

Emo

To the person that said, "For those who say they are not emo, what about the line in 'Dead,' where it says "Wouldn't it be great to take a pistol to the head and wouldn't it be great if we were dead."

Emo is not a lyrical style that talks about suicide, emo is a subgenre of punk that focuses more on the over display of emotion rather than the tune.

This band is not emo in any way, not second wave, or third wave, not even post-emo. They are just your typical pop punk band (old stuff is PURE post-hardcore.)

calling My Chemical Romance emo insults:

• Real emo fans that listen to rites of spring n' caP'n jazz

and

• Real MCR fans who don't listen to be apart of the "scene kid" scene.

Please change it.

Talk:My Chemical Romance/Emo --neon white talk 00:44, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

• They are not emo [1] Cybervoron (talk) 04:08, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The Fighting Of Emo

This shouldnt be happening. All the fighting about being emo. This is kinda the bandz fault, and im not blaming them. But wt other bands that admit their emo, this doesnt happen. Every one just gets along, because they all truely know what they are. Mcr is confusing kids, telling them their punk not emo. Now whenever i see anther emo and say like "yay! emo buddies!" or something like that they say something untrue like "r u blind, im punk not emo". And it realy hurts because i know mcr does the same thing and i just wanted people to know this brings alot of emos pain doing this.... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.119.253.67 (talk) 23:17, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

From all the comments I have conducted my opinion about all of this.This is gone on for along time. This whole talk page is devoted to weather they in the "emo" genre. So sources are reliable, and we have to go with it. People make emo a bad thing, it has evolved from its original usage. In the 21st century we all know what the sterotype is. I see in the article that "emo " as a genre has earlier matrial by it. It needs to be taken off. There are other bands with emo as well, secondhand serenade, Fall out boy, Paramore and Panic at the disco. Some of the bands say they are not in th "emo" genre. So I am going to see what happens in the next few days, and change the earlier part, unless someone comes up with a good reason or source to say I am wrong. Consider putting an 'Emo' section in the article. Thanks...Has Anybody Seen My Disco Stick? 06:46, 1 March 2009 (UTC)

The negative connotation is starting to erode, so these debates will probably start to dwindle. Zazaban (talk) 19:56, 7 March 2009 (UTC)

Favorite band

My Chemical Romance is my favorite band. And I know that they are not emo or any kind of pop. Also, what happened to Lost Memories For The Both Of Us?--72.240.212.138 (talk) 23:29, 10 April 2009 (UTC)