Talk:Oreo

This article is marketing

This page is used for marketing purposes. Suggestions: 1. Perhaps someone could add here on the talk page _why_ this "oreo" is notable and of encyclopedic value? 2. Make the article less tempting (avoiding front-page closeups of a, to me, unknown but too often seen cookie). 3. Maybe a feature to see which pages link to here, as a first step towards shaming the blogs and sites who link here, to clean up their act? —Preceding unsigned comment added by SiBo (talk • contribs) 07:23, 20 March 2009 (UTC)

China

Oreos for the Australian market are made in China. Gross. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 203.20.35.28 (talk) 05:43, 24 February 2008 (UTC)

Article Clean-up

I noticed that much of the article was unsourced and grammatically incorrect, so I've begun a re-write, sourcing information.139.184.30.18 17:54, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

Right. I've managed to write a new, condensed introduction, and moved most of what was in the original introduction into new sections for History (which I've expanded), Production, Consumption, and a section for Trivia at the end. I've also re-written the Varieties section making it clearer. I don't like having two separate sections for 'As an ingredient' and 'Variations or adaptations' and was hoping that someome who knows more about Oreos would merge them, as I don't know much about this area. I've also added a few more links throughout the article to hope that the citation box at the top of the page may be removed at some point 139.184.30.18 19:03, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Finally signed in (God I'm lazy). "User:139.184.30.18", that's me. Thankfully no-one disagreed with my total rewrite of this article. PseudoNym 21:29, 2 May 2007 (UTC)

Since my extensive rewrite the article seems to be heading downhill. A trivia entry in an encyclopaedia article is not permitted by Wikipedia. Similarly, the section on its references in popular culture is getting far too long. Not all of these are needed. just because an oreo was mentioned on TV for example, does not mean that the information had to be included here. A prose entry along the lines of 'Because of their popularity, many references to Oreos are made in popular culture...' and then including only the most important/prominent. PseudoNym (Contact me) 13:12, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

Oreo cake?

What about Oreo Cake? It's this stuff that is sold around here and supposedly a tall cake which you can bake and it looks like a giant Oreo--Cctoide 16:29, 3 Dec 2004 (UTC)

How did they pick the name Oreo? I think this should be mentioned. Mike H 02:20, Oct 7, 2004 (UTC)

*eating Oreos* "Idunno." lysdexia 11:34, 12 Oct 2004 (UTC)

The National Biscuit Company does not know (as they do not know the name origins of a bunch of their products), since there was no written down explanation or spoken knowledge passed down about it's name since it's birth. One belief is that it derives from the French or or "gold", another saying that the name comes from the Greek oreo or "mountain", and another belief is that it was derived from taking the "re" out of "cream" and putting it between the two "o"s in "chocolate". These are not the only beliefs, but perhaps the best known.

"There are two schools of Oreo eaters; there is some contention between the school holds that the correct way to eat an Oreo cookie is to twist apart the wafers so that the filling sticks to one of them, and eat the filling first."

I hope this is a joke! Are there civilized people who do this?! :-) It was one of the first things my mom taught me not to do. Right after potty training I guess ;^) Arvindn 03:05, 14 Oct 2004 (UTC)

I don't think anybody seriously holds it to be the only correct way, but many people do eat them that way. In fact, I usually do unless I dunk them in milk. - Furrykef 03:28, 18 Nov 2004 (UTC)

I would say that there are two different schools of Oreo eaters, but nothing too disputed to include a section in the article, or even a mentioning. By the way, the only way I eat an Oreo is by twisting it. Slof 04:15, 20 Nov 2004 (UTC)

Vegan Question

It seems that, depending on where you live, Oreo cookies may or may not be Vegan. PETA lists them as being "Accidently Vegan", however a deeper Google search seems to indicate that in some areas it contains whey, in some areas it does not, and they seem to change the recipe quite regularly. For the interested, a Vegan alternative is Newman-O's. :) 67.161.208.117 06:39, 10 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Golden Oreos are vegan all over the U.S., I think. The same goes for Oreos with chocolate creme, I think. Ralphael 21:04, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Where I live, (Sussex, New Brunswick, Canada) you can generally find two packages of Oreos. They don't seem to look any different from each other, though one has a small green tag promising zero transfats. The transfat-lacking package lists modified palm, soy lecithin, and some other stuff as its ingredients; the other one lists things like modified milk ingredients. Being vegan, it made me debate my eating of Oreos, but it seems the transfat-free ones are okay. -- Soviet Dolphin

I seem to recall from somewhere... that the whey-containing oreos (at least in the states) were being phased out (I think it was in 2005) in favor of a consistent recipe (that didn't contain whey). From where I've been (upstate New York, SoCal, NorCal) all "regular" oreo varieties are vegan now, with exception of the cakesters, milk chocolate covered, etc. Basically, anything that uses the regular cookies with the varying type of cream seem to be vegan now... If it turns out some still aren't in certain areas of the US or different countries, the trivia should be edited to that point. Faunablues 22:28, 8 September 2007 (UTC)

Springtime?

They are sold at appropriate times of the year (orange at Halloween, red at Christmas, blue during springtime, etc.).

Am I the only person failing to see the connnection between 'blue' and 'springtime' ? Mullet 29 June 2005 22:50 (UTC)

It's a kind of pastel blue--just a happy, springtimey kind of color. Clear blue springtime skies are what come to mind for me. CrazyLegsKC 00:10, 30 July 2005 (UTC)

Mini Ice Cream Sandwiches

I think the poster omitted one type of Oreo. I remember for a time back in the late-80's/early-90's where Oreo had mini ice cream sandwiches. They came in a box with a plastic tray and were lined up like the cookies you buy. The tops/bottoms were the same size as the regular cookies but the filling was Oreo cookies and cream ice cream. They were great because you could eat as few or as many as you like.

Well, I found it on Kraft Foods Inc. website, in case someone wants to add it and source it. "The 1980s saw an expansion into the frozen snack category with Oreo brand Cookies ‘N Cream ice cream." http://www.kraft.com/100/innovations/oreo.html --Knightskye 06:21, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

There are too many different variations of Oreos to list them all I'm afraid 139.184.30.18 19:56, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

The blue is like colored easter eggs.

References

Do we have a reference for the "If you stacked every oreo ever consumed, it would reach the moon 5 times."? — mæstro ^t/c 08:08, 9 October 2005 (UTC)

If you choose to accept it, I've found a rather recent one here: http://www.rickstephenson.com/brainbusters.htm He has trivia things, the one about Oreos reaching the moon is September 16th I believe, but you can just do Ctrl F and search for "Oreo" twice.
--Knightskye 06:39, 13 November 2006 (UTC)

Racial term

As a racial term, does it also mean somebody who is "white on the outside, and black on the inside"? --SuperDude 01:20, 29 October 2005 (UTC)

I believe that the "acting white" section does not belong in the Oreo cookies article. Gilliamjf 04:28, 8 December 2005 (UTC)

It really has no place here. I'm removing it. --BDD 22:36, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

Being that the article wigger does redirect to this page, it does seem like it would be appropriate to at least mention it in the article. And, if you're going to delete something from an article, just delete it, don't leave an artifact of it in the article itself. Being that it seems there are a few of you against mentioning it, I won't restore it, but I think it should be reconsidered. SchnappM 05:24, 6 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey what happened you completely deleted the whole section, instead of moving it elsewhere? gbrandt 19:51, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Um, the cookies are white on the inside and black on the outside, and I've heard of the term being used to mean a black kid who is "acting white" (reports from a high school in North Carolina). If it's a widespread phenomenon, maybe we should have a disambiguation page? Dusik 14:52, 29 August 2006 (UTC)

i think oreo as a racial term needs to have a short mention in popular culture or at least a link to an example of it being used Perry mason 23:15, 17 March 2007 (UTC) The term 'Oreo' has been used at least once in Law & Order describing Paul Robinette. I believe I heard it more than once, but I distinctly remember it happening in the first season. The term was also used in the first Mighty Ducks movie, describing a line (group of hockey players on a team that generally enter or leave play at the same time) as the 'Oreo line' since it involved two black players as wings (outer positions) and a white player as the center. This, obviously, is only racial to the point that the colour of their skin was pointed out. In addition, I believe I've heard in some media (tv or movie) the term used less personally derogitory and more in a subtle racism when used by white men (or women, though I don't recall an instance of that). When used, it is kin to saying 'You are a credit to your people', as if to say that they are a rare example of a quality member of the race.Paladin carvin (talk) 20:20, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

Is It Kosher?

I think that this is an incorrect use of paragraphs.

In this paragraph, the first sentence makes sense. However, those following seem to be non-sequitur, as I see no connection between "kosher" and hydrogenated oil. However, I'm not going to change it yet, since there may be a connection I'm unaware of. If there's no objection, I'll give it about a week and see if anyone can come up with anything.

• In israel it is Kosher but othere then that it isnt made kosher.

Bunthorne 20:39, 13 December 2005 (UTC)

Large overhaul

I made a lot of changes in my recent edit.

• Some inplausible and unsourced claims have been removed.
• A contradiction within the article regarding the etymology of Oreo has been corrected.
• Sections have been renamed, restructured, and combined in a more logical pattern.
• Off-topic material in the racial use section was removed. We may want to just reference the list of ethnic slurs instead.

Naturally I don't expect everyone to be happy about all of this. Please voice any complaints if you have any. --BDD 23:15, 3 January 2006 (UTC)

add a picture

Can someone add a picture of a Oreo at the beggining of the article. MarioV 21:08, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I would also like to know if and how I can add a picture of chritmas oreos, on the oreo page. I'd also just like to know how to add a picture in general. Could someone help me. (im flyers17) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Phillyflyers17 (talk • contribs) 01:28, 24 November 2007 (UTC)

Other prejudice meanings?

I have family in the south who have told me that, around there at least, "Oreo" can be used as a racially derogatory term to describe someone who is of mixed race: either someone who is half white/half African American or someone who is half white/half Hispanic. A family member of mine has unusually dark skin and usually receives teasing about this from fellow classmates. Is this true? If so, should it be mentioned in the article? The only thing in the article that seems related to this is about African Americans who act white. Jelligraze 00:35, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I've never heard that, but if you can find a citation for it, it would be appropriate for the article. -- MisterHand 01:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

I can't find a citation for it, but I can confirm this (I live in Florida). Oreo could mean a mixed person, but it's usually understood to mean a black person who acts like the stereotypical white person. For example, I have a friend who's black and is quiet, reserved, likes anime, gets good grades, and speaks softly. He could be described as an Oreo. When you live in the south, you learn to live with rampant racism. Moose 00:28, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

I think "Oreo" can translate to "Micheal Jackson"; we don't know if they're half-white or half-black.....75.26.192.96 03:42, 14 February 2007 (UTC)

Maybe place it on the disambiguation page? 139.184.30.18 19:58, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

No credible references...no place in the article. Anyone can just make up something like that, doesn't mean it's relevant or has any basis in fact.--Alafalula 22:43, 31 October 2007 (UTC) Above, I've given some roots of pop references for the 'black acting white' term, but I've never heard of it meaning a biracial person.Paladin carvin (talk) 20:24, 7 June 2008 (UTC)

the oreo theme song

[moved from the main article... not sure about it, could be integrated properly? — mæstro ^t/c, 14:27, 23 April 2006 (UTC)] " ice cold milk and an oreo cookie they go together good forever its a classic combination O-R-E-O oh-oh "

Controlled substance

I removed this from the article: "Due to a clerical error, Oreo cookies briefly became a controlled substance in the United States in 1963. The Comprehensive Drug Abuse Prevention and Control Act of 1970 reestablished their status as a legal food product, though their psychoactive properties remain a controversial topic. " Can anyone find any proof of this? Rmhermen 20:08, 31 May 2006 (UTC)

Oreo wafersticks

There doesn't seem to be any mention of Oreo wafersticks. Is this a product only available in Australia? Surely not. --Colourblind 01:46, 12 July 2006 (UTC)

Never heard of them. But then, I haven't actually looked for them either.--Planetary 07:50, 30 September 2006 (UTC)

Transfats to DIRT?

Is that right? Nabisco considered replacing transfats with... DIRT? That can't be right. If it is, surely there is a source?

Heh, that turned out to have been vandalism, which has been fixed. --Xyzzyplugh 14:52, 5 August 2006 (UTC)

Proposed merger of Uh-Oh! Oreo into this article

I have proposed merging Uh-Oh! Oreo into this article. That article has pretty much the same content as the entry on said Oreos in this article, so I doubt that it will cause any controversy. Picaroon9288|ta co 04:07, 25 August 2006 (UTC)

However, the racial sense of Oreo has now been moved to a separate article (see disambig), so the Uh Oh redirect should go there too, not here! 86.131.90.255 20:17, 29 January 2007 (UTC)

Oreo cereal

In the list of different types of Oreos (double stuffed, chocolat cream oreo etc.) Shouldn't there be the Oreo Cerial?? I thought that it should be mentioned. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 71.211.30.18 (talk • contribs) 03:06, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Oreo O's, although made by Oreo's parent division Kraft Foods, aren't actually part of the Oreo lineup. Picaroon9288|ta co 03:16, 26 August 2006 (UTC)

Coffee oreos

I contacted Nabisco about Double Delight Coffee 'n Creme oreos and they told me they were discontinued (indeed, I haven't seen them in my local grocery store a while). I changed the oreo page to reflect this product discontinuation but someone reverted my changes. Any idea why? PhoenixJ 15:12, 5 September 2006 (UTC)

Original research isn't allowed in wikipedia I'm afraid. all 'facts' need to be correctly cited to be proven true to some degree 139.184.30.18 20:10, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

REGULAR oreos!

It seems kind of funny that they would list all different kinds of oreos... except the original ones! (Please respond on my talk page.) tinlv7 18:40, 13 October 2006 (UTC)

Original Oreos now included and section cleaned-up —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 139.184.30.18 (talk) 20:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC).

Double Stuf Oreo

Double Stuf Oreos have been around for much longer than 1997, at least in Canada. --PsychoJason 22:08, 30 December 2006 (UTC)

Okay added the correct date. Will get a source soon 139.184.30.18 20:07, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

The ORIGIN of 'Oreo'...incorrect?

I've heard many different versions on the origin of the name Oreo. A book I've read stated that no one is exactly sure how the cookie got it's name. Do you think we should change to origin to 'unsure'? Feel free to tell me what you think...Snowonster 04:29, 15 February 2007 (UTC)

Okay sorted. Majority of theories each listed 139.184.30.18 20:06, 3 April 2007 (UTC)

Oreo color

While the outer shell is chocolate, what is the actual color of an Oreo cookie? It appears to be black, but many in my family are arguing that they in fact are dark brown. Can somebody clear this up?

68.42.244.36 15:16, 13 July 2007 (UTC) Kelly [thomaskfisher@charter.net]

Sorry to disappoint, but they are in fact dark drown. Very dark, mind you, but still brown not black. PseudoNym (Contact me) 13:07, 21 August 2007 (UTC)

The origin of 'Oreo' incorrect?, take two

I'm a Greek, and I can tell you that the translation is wrong. "Oreo" in fact means beautiful, nice, good etc in Greek, while the word for mountain is "Oros", or "Vuno". Someone should fix it, since I have no idea how to do it properly.--Nikitis 21:54, 13 July 2007 (UTC)

History section

In the history section it says that Oreos were created for the British market but then it goes on to say they were sold for 30 cents per pound. If they were sold in Britain then why is it in cents? In Britain we have never used cents for our currency. Also does anybody know if any stores in the UK sell Oreos? I love them but have never seen them sold here although heard that Sainsburys have them and also Costco, anybody know? America always has the nicest food :( XAndreWx 23:39, 17 July 2007 (UTC)

Unbelievable Stats??

The quote on the batch size is improbable as it references some 65 MILLION pounds of ingredients in a single batch. If each cookie weighs as much as an ounce, there would be more than one BILLION cookies in a batch of that size. Since the referenced article states the Chicago facility makes (only) 4.6 billion cookies in a given year, the batch must be smaller, on the order or 65 THOUSAND lbs or 65 tons or something.

http://www.amusingfacts.com/facts/Detail/oreo-factory.html as a source,

The Oreo cookie is big. In lots of ways. The recipe for a "batch", uses 18 million pounds of cocoa, and 47 million pounds of crème filling. It works out to a cookie that is 71% biscuit, and 29% crème.

The largest cookie factory around, is the Nabisco facility in Chicago, where over 4.6 billion Oreos were made in 1997, alone. Memobug 19:43, 2 August 2007 (UTC)

Should ALWAYS BE IN ALL CAPS?

It is ridiculous that this stylistic matter is emphasized as the first thing addressed in the article. Thousands of trademark owners emphasize their trademarks with ALL CAPS, but that does not make this style point an imperative for the whole world. Most formal publications, in fact, do not follow this kind of rule. I propose to remove this from the article. Acsenray (talk) 18:19, 17 January 2008 (UTC)

Dsrl

None of this content should be included. It's just sneaking back in through the back door content that was deleted at Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dsrl. As the closing admin says, it's just part of oreo's viral marketing. Dlohcierekim Deleted? 00:48, 7 February 2008 (UTC) The mention in this version is just about right. Dlohcierekim Deleted? 00:53, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

I agree, this article is used for marketing, for instance here [1]. I remember having seen the pictures of this one before, so they're fairly effective in spamming the link around. Perhaps Wikipedia could use a toplist of most popular / direct-linked articles and a warning template at the top of the article? SiBo (talk) —Preceding undated comment added 07:01, 20 March 2009 (UTC).

Trans-Saturated fat

I removed the following text from the article. "Trans-saturated" is a contradiction in terms. If anyone with a clue about this cares to correct the following, then they can return it to the article.

On May 13, 2003, attorney Stephen Joseph filed a lawsuit charging Nabisco with using hydrogenated (or partially hydrogenated) oils (trans fats) to make the cookies. The suit was dropped as Nabisco considered replacing the hydrogenated oils with alternative oils. Joseph admitted he filed the lawsuit to call attention to the matter, and he considered his motion successful. As of January 2006, classic Oreo cookies are no longer manufactured with hydrogenated oils. Other varieties may not have eliminated hydrogenated oils completely.

The trans-fats had been added to the Oreo recipe to replace its original fat, lard. Earlier outcry regarding these types of saturated fats is what prompted the change to use more unsaturated fats in the first place.

Baltimore Accent?

Removed this complete nonsense:

"Oreo" is the phonetic pronunciation of "Oriole" in the Baltimorean accent.

Uncited and completely ludicrous. 162.136.192.1 (talk) 19:32, 10 September 2008 (UTC)

Article or advert

Seriously guys, this article has so much "Oreos sold this much making them the biggest selling cookie/biscuit evar!" stuff in it I'd be surprised if an employee of Oreo's manufactorer/marketer didn't write it. 193.132.145.151 (talk) 09:42, 15 September 2008 (UTC)

Why does "DSLR" redirect here?

Why does "DSLR" redirect to this page? The acronym appears nowhere in the article - what does "DSLR" have to do with "Oreo"? - Brian Kendig (talk) 14:21, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Oh, I just noticed "DSRL", or "Double Stuf Racing League", in this article. I hardly think that the number of people looking for "Double Stuf Racing League" and typoing the acronym as "DSLR" is greater than the number of people looking for DSLR cameras. I'll change the redirect for DSLR to point to Digital single-lens reflex camera unless anyone objects. - Brian Kendig (talk) 14:24, 28 September 2008 (UTC)

Cakesters

Should the delectable cakesters be included in this article? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 168.169.48.61 (talk) 17:54, 2 October 2008 (UTC)

Halloween/Spring oreos

also deserve a section in the article

Double Section?

Haha, can I ask why there is both a "Varieties" section AND a "Variations and Adaptations" section? They completely repeat each other. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.137.176.179 (talk) 19:34, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

Oreo cows

These should be mentioned because they look like the cookies with their white band in the middle on an overall black cow. 65.167.146.130 (talk) 17:22, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not a cookbook.

Wikipedia is not a cookbook, so I've moved this recipe from the 'as an ingredient' section.

The Best Recipe for Oreos

Oreo Milkshake Ingredients:

3 oreos

3 scoops of vanilla ice cream

250ml of milk

(serves 1)

1.Stick it all in a blender and enjoy!

(the dead link was in the original). 128.232.228.174 (talk) 18:20, 20 April 2009 (UTC)