Talk:List of largest buildings

Hong Kong Container Freight Station

About.com claims [1] that the Container Freight Station in Hong Kong has seven million square feet of space, but I haven't found much other reference to it. There's some reference elsewhere to the new Hong Kong airport being one of the biggest structures in the world, but I'm not sure about that either (one of the old Berlin airports is huge, though, either Tempelhof International Airport or Tegel International Airport). Probably don't rank first, but probably worth mentioning —User:Mulad (talk) 12:51, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

Largest by area

The article says the Boeing building is the largest by volume, and that the Pentagon is the largest office building by area. Is the Boeing building the largest overall by area, as well? If not, what is? By looking at their images on Google maps, it looks like the Pentagon could easily fit inside the Boeing building.

• What are the co-ordinates of the Boeing building on google earth? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 138.253.244.126 (talk) 11:14, 4 December 2007 (UTC)

Also, it's not entirely clear in the phrasing right now: when measuring the Pentagon's area, does it count the area of the ground covered, or the total area of all floors in the building?

Since when is the Great Wall of China a building?75.16.73.21 01:32, 18 June 2007 (UTC)

Shouldn't K-25, Oak Ridge, TN USA be included? It is half a mile long and over 1000 feet wide and is has more area under a single roof then the pentagon. 87.177.1.197 (talk) 18:29, 9 July 2008 (UTC)

For that matter, both the Aalsmeer Flower Auction building in the Netherlands and The Venetian in Macau are listed on this page as the largest in usable floor space. 128.253.240.145 01:54, 17 October 2007 (UTC)

Largest by length

The Stanford Linear Accelerator Center is 3.2 kilometers (2.0 miles) long. The Wikipedia entry says "The above-ground klystron gallery atop the beamline is the longest building in the United States." It might be interesting to add a section covering the world's longest buildings.

There's a contradiction in the article on this point. It says the Great Wall of China is the largest building in the world by footprint. Well, if it counts as a "building" for determining footprint, it's a heck of a lot longer than 3.2km as well. The article should clarify the definition of "building" and either count the Great Wall or not. PubliusFL 03:50, 30 July 2007 (UTC)

Definition

There should be a more precise definition of what is a building and what is several buildings. For example, Coeur Défense in Paris has the same floor level as the Palace of Parliament in Bucharest. But its shape is very particular (several towers on a common 3-level basement). So does it qualify as the largest European building (on par with the Palace of Parliament)? (see photos at http://www.viguier.com (20 Projets -> Chronology -> 1992) or here). Thbz 05:11, 19 April 2006 (UTC)

It isn't the largest in Europe anyway as the Alsmeer Flower Auction is in Europe too and much larger. But if the share the same basement I think they should be counted as one building and added to the list. -- H005 23:13, 20 April 2006 (UTC)

Palace of Parliament

The ranking of the Romanian People's Palace is highly suspect. Many buildings are larger, both by floor space and by volume. Romanians consistently boast that the building is one of the largest in the world, but various research I've done puts it fairly far down the list. I don't have the figures in front of me (nor do I have time to re-research at the moment), but some of the contenders that are not listed in this article include some mega-malls and some of the new tallest-in-the-world buildings in Asia. The Great Pyramid of Cholula, Mexico, has a volume more than nine times the size, according to thefreedictionary.com. There are also larger train stations and airports. However, the "fact" that the People's Palace is one of three buildings visible from space/ well, one square meter smaller than the Pentagon/ well, one of the largest buildings in the world/ well, maybe one of the largest office buildings/ well, at least one of the largest in Europe is deeply embedded within the Romanian national discourse.

Whether it is the heaviest building is a different question, and one on which I have no information. However, any claims about its size relative to other buildings should be considered suspect pending further research. Malangali 17:28, 19 July 2006 (UTC)

What about this factory? The "Volkswagenwerk Kassel"in Germany (Volkswagen Factory). Look on the aerial picture you will be able to see this from space too: 4 halls of 550 meters lenght which are connected by a large 1.2 kilometers long front - shouldn't this count as one building?

http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=51.257913&lon=9.433844&z=16&l=5&m=a&v=2

here you can see the front http://www.hr-online.de/website/rubriken/nachrichten/index.jsp?rubrik=11416&key=standard_document_5447588&lugal=1&ibp=0 this article says the first 3 (of the 4) halls have 135,000, 140,000 and 120,000 square meters (together 395,000 square meters + the not listed hall 4 with estimated 120,000 and the 1.2 meters long front building would result in at least 515,000 square meters floor area and rank 9 of the buildings by largest floor area.) http://regiowiki.hna.de/Ansiedlung_des_Volkswagen-Zweigwerkes you can find a map of the area here: http://www.vw-personal.de/www/de/arbeiten/standorte/kassel/ihr_weg_zu_vw_in_kassel.html

german wikipedia article: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagenwerk_Kassel —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.75.79.20 (talk) 11:43, 4 April 2008 (UTC)

Malls

Speaking of malls, an article in the Wall Street Journal ("The New Spot for Giant Malls: Asia," September 16, 2006; Page P6) states that "The world's largest mall, the South China Mall in Dongguan, an industrial city on the Pearl River delta near Hong Kong, has 50% more floor space than the Pentagon, which is the world's largest office building." This seems to be confirmed by a New York Times graphic appearing on The Seoul Times web site, which gives the area of the mall as 9,580,000 ft2 (890 011 m2) total area and 7,100,000 ft2 (659 611 m2) of shopping space [2]. That's not as big as the Aalsmeer Flower Auction (currently listed as largest for footprint and floor area), but worth mention. 130.153.28.208 11:24, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Largest Wooden Structure in the World

Kirkland Air Force Base in New Mexico claims to have the largest wooden structure in the world. The structure in the Trestle for testing aircraft for EMP. There isn't much information on the web about it, but I found a claim at http://cryptome.quintessenz.at/mirror/6odd-eyeball.htm. Kaiser9111 16:24, 10 April 2007 (UTC)

The Tacoma Dome in Tacoma, WA, USA "is 530 feet in diameter and 152 feet tall." according to their official website: http://www.tacomadome.org/history.aspx I believe that is larger than the Tōdai-ji which is listed here as the largest wooden structure in the world. --Neemund (talk) 08:32, 17 May 2009 (UTC)

List of world's largest domes

Permit me to comment on the construction of the Mosta Dome. No, it was not built by the British Empire! What's the source of this information? The British Empire, did not build any catholic church in Malta Maltesedog 16:26, 7 February 2007 (UTC) NICK MOULTON RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  :) :) :)

Merge

I merged the mall list into here as malls are among the largest buildings in the world.--JEF 21:30, 14 April 2007 (UTC)

Dubai Mall

The main article for Dubai Mall claims the size will be 12 million square feet, while this article lists only 5.5 million. I don't know which is accurate. Or perhaps is the 5.5 referring to the current size? --Trakon 10:08, 27 February 2007 (UTC)

GLA?

It says GLA in the lead, but some malls clearly give the total area of the facility. Until all numbers are proven to be GLA's, I've added {{Disputed}}. PhoenixTwo 21:26, 23 March 2007 (UTC)

List of the world's largest shopping malls

I don't see Plaza Las Americas on the list(its suppossed to be #25). --BoricuaPR 03:08, 13 May 2007 (UTC)

Forbes.com Recently Has their List of the Largest Mall and it deviates a little from the list here in wikipedia

heres the link: http://www.forbes.com/2007/01/09/malls-worlds-largest-biz-cx_tvr_0109malls.html

The Main source from Connecticut University is a bit American-centric trying to fit in as many American Malls as possible. I suggest we used Forbes.com a much world renowned source.

I totally agree. SM Mall of Asia ranks 3rd; SM Megamall 5th; SM City North EDSA 9th. But the wikipedia article says otherwise in terms of GLA. Forbes Magazine is much trustable in this matter. This Top 10 List was released a few weeks ago and was reported in many news channels/shows. --- Laibcoms (talk | Contribs) 02:05, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

This Wikipedia list has changed a lot since then, rather than relying on one list I have tried to find reliable independent sources for each building. I have found that almost every source has a different GLA size for each mall and have tried to use the most reliable one for each.CStubbies 17:42, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Shopping Dom Pedro Campinas, Brazil

Shopping Dom Pedro Campinas (http://www.parquedpedro.com.br/) has 450.000 square metre of total area. I don't know the gross leasable area, but its at least 148.61 square metre, making it the biggest one on South America. http://maps.google.com/?ie=UTF8&ll=-22.849325,-47.062082&spn=0.009412,0.014591&t=k&z=16&om=1

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Worlds Largest Shopping Malls - Confusion in listing

The list of the worlds largest shopping mall seems to have created confusion with GLA and overall area. The Nordstan in Sweden has an overall area of 320,000sq meters, however that has been listed in the GLA column, this makes the mall sound like one of the worlds largest, when it crearly is'nt. On the other hand the MetroCentre in England, which is Europe's second largest mall (after the Cevahir Mall) with a GLA of 1,780,000 square feet (165,000 m²), and the Bluewater Centre also in England with 1,675,000 ft² (155,700 m²) GLA is not mentioned either. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.107.218.171 (talk) 20:17, 21 September 2007 (UTC)

I was reading guinness world records 2009 and one the canada page they list West edmonton mall as the worlds largest shopping center. I know it was at one point but this doesnt seem to be the case anymore. worth mentioning in the artical?--Blood Panther (talk) 19:33, 11 July 2009 (UTC)

Special Catagories table

The special catagories section is getting messy as people keep adding new catagories, I propose to put a table there instead of the list as I think it would clear it up nicely. Ive started a table here to see if it will go ok. If anyone opposes this idea or would like to add or change the table in any way, please feel free to discuss it here.

Type of building	Name	Location	Size
Largest Church	Basilica of Our Lady of Peace of Yamoussoukro	Yamoussoukro, Côte d'Ivoire	30,000 m² (323,000 sq ft
Largest Palace	Forbidden City	Beijing, China	720,000m² (7.75 million sq ft)
Largest Airport	King Fahd International Airport	Dammam, Saudi Arabia	780 km² (301 sq miles)

Cstubbies (talk) 20:31, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

I'm so sorry but I thought we're talking about the largest buildings, not area covered of the airport. Very misleading. 58.147.46.115 (talk) 14:43, 3 January 2009 (UTC)

Beijing Airport Termnal 3

The building area is 986,000 sq m, height is 45m, so the volume should be 44 million cubic m. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 67.204.10.40 (talk) 22:34, 29 February 2008 (UTC)

Would somebody with greater skills than I possess update the site to show that the new Terminal 3 at the Beijing International Airport, due to open Feb 29, 2008, is now, I believe, the largest building coming in at 1.3 million m2 or 14 million ft2. Please see http://www.fosterandpartners.com/News/328/Default.aspx 68.198.49.161 (talk) 14:30, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

• After checking the article and some of the pictures I think the terminal is made up of three or maybe four seperate buildings. In the Foster and partners article it suggests 1.3 million sq meters of floor space 'mostly under one roof'. I'm confident that one or two of these buildings will definately belong on the list, we just need to find find a reliable source that states the size of each building.CStubbies 17:38, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Here is a picture showing the layout of the terminal[3]. It cleary shows at least three seperate buildings. If they are connected by a basement of some sort it could be an exception but until it is proven by a reliable source, it shouldnt be on the listCStubbies 18:36, 4 March 2008 (UTC)

Steel Mills

Modern steel mills usually keep caster and rolling train under one roof to avoid reheating of the slab before rolling. Some of them reach 1500m and more in length, about 300m in width and 30m in height, thus covering more area and space than most of the listed buildings, if not all. I know of two mills of this size currently under construction in Magnitogorsk and Nischni Nowgorod, 8 mills of the same type (5000 mm plate mill) already exist in Japan and Germany. Maybe we should take these buildings into account, too? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Käptn Weltall (talk • contribs) 09:14, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Belaya Dacha Mall, outside Moscow

probably should be on the mall list:

"The Belaya Dacha Mega mall outside Moscow, developed by Ikea like the mall here in Novosibirsk, opened in 2004. It has 330,000 square meters, or 3.6 million square feet, of interior space, about the same size as the 3.5 million square feet of interior space at the United States’ largest mall, the Mall of America, outside Minneapolis. That does not include the Mall of America’s seven-acre amusement park."

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/17/business/worldbusiness/17mall.html?pagewanted=2&ref=world —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.205.71.84 (talk) 18:27, 18 May 2008 (UTC)

Largest usable space

There may be some redundancy in the section between the text and the table. Other opinions would be welcome. Thanks. --THE FOUNDERS INTENT ^TALK 19:05, 30 May 2008 (UTC)

The section should explain what is meant by "usable" space. Do people build buildings with large amounts of unusable space? Is floor area or volume the important measure? Does it refer to the space within a single "room"? Can there be supporting columns to hold up the roof? I am not sure why the McDermott building is mentioned in the text. If user 167.24.104.150 is right, I would expect to see it in the "Largest area" list. JonH (talk) 10:56, 6 December 2008 (UTC)

This is terrible: "largest amount of usable space". Clearly what is intended is, "Largest single usable space" 63.145.34.130 (talk) 02:21, 11 December 2008 (UTC)

ADD TO LARGEST BUILDING LIST

UNITED SERVICES AUTOMOBILE ASSOCIATION 9800 FREDERICKSBURG ROAD SAN ANTONIO TX 78288

THE MCDERMOTT BUILDING IS OVER 4 MILLION SF —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.24.24.150 (talk) 22:00, 16 July 2008 (UTC)

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=9800+fredericksburg+rd,+san+antonio+tx+&sll=37.0625,-95.677068&sspn=56.724997,106.875&safe=on&ie=UTF8&ll=29.535659,-98.57661&spn=0.015421,0.026093&t=h&z=15 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.24.104.150 (talk) 21:28, 26 August 2008 (UTC)

• The McDermott Building in San Antonio, TX has 4,220,000 sq ft (392,000 m2). Needs to be added to the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.24.104.150 (talk) 18:45, 4 December 2008 (UTC)

Mall areas

The areas given for some of the shopping malls seem to be exaggerated:

• Recent press releases about the opening of Dubai Mall mainly quote 344,000 sq m.
• The article on South China Mall says it has closed, and the "Mall of misfortune" reference suggests that construction may not have been completed.

For later comments about this mall see the section on South China Mall

• Google Maps "user content" locates the Golden Resources Mall at 39.957°N 116.282°E / 39.957; 116.282 and its "satellite" view shows a building that is 570 m long and 110 m wide. The article says it has 6 floors giving a total floor area of about 380,000 sq m, and the gross leasable area (GLA) must be less.
• After looking at Google Maps, I also have doubts about CentralWorld, Jamuna Future Park, Dream Mall, the three SM malls, Cevahir Mall, and Sambil.
• The list is not sorted properly, and there are discrepancies between the square foot and square metre columns.

Sources such as Eastern Connecticut State University say that claimed GLA may not be consistent or entirely reliable, so I do not know how accurate figures can be obtained without original research. But I think readers should be warned to use the list with caution. JonH (talk) 14:16, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

UPDATE:

• User Rockysmile11 has fixed the sorting and numbering of the list and also the foot/metre conversions. Now it really does list 20 malls. Before there were 23 entries!
• User Edson Rosa has added Aricanduva Mall to the list with a GLA of 365,000 sq m. But before Rockysmile11's changes, it was listed with GLA 242,300 and total area 365,000, and the Números do Shopping tab of [4] appears to confirm this (although I am not sure because I do not read Portuguese).
• As mentioned above, after looking at Google Maps I doubted the 348,000 sq m GLA of Cevahir Mall. I have now found that the managing agents say there is "85,377 sqm of net retail space and 20,014 sqm of leisure" [5]. These add up to just 105,391 sq m. Strangely, although they say there is "a gross area of 420,000 sqm over 6 floors", the site is only "6.7 hectares" (67,000 sq m).

JonH (talk) 10:34, 13 December 2008 (UTC)

SOME MORE UPDATES:

I am pretty sure the numbers for Central World are correct. The image from Google Earth is taken when the extensions were still under construction. The size is difficult to calculate though, as parts of the mall has 20 floors.

Data from Jamuna Future Park's website suggests it is much smaller than that. Besides it is not even completed. It's built on 10 acres of land and has 9 floors (2 floors have parking).

For later comments about this mall see the section on Jamuna Future Park

The SM Malls in Philippines all show Gross Floor Area as Gross Leasable Area. SM Malls of Asia is built on 4 separated buildings.

For later comments about these malls see the section on SM Malls

Looking at the Cevahir Mall from Google Earth, it's about 180*180+60*60 m. It is supposedly 6 floors high. That only adds up to about 200.000 sqm in total area.

The Dream Mall say the total area in 400.001 sqm, not the GLA. It should be removed. The Sambil Mall also seems to be based on total floor area.

Both Future Park (Rangsit) and Seacon Square in Bangkok has total floor areas of about 500.000 sqm, and can be considered to be in the list if someone find the details.

Chrislarsson 20 December 2008

plese update the list —Preceding unsigned comment added by 167.24.104.150 (talk) 22:28, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

At least half of the malls should not be on the list. Some are not even completed, others are using the total floor area as GLA. Even when fixed, the list consistently gets updated by people with national emotions.

The list will never be accurate until there is a way to independently check that the stated floor areas are correct.

--Christoffer Larsson (talk) 09:52, 13 January 2009 (UTC)

I just removed 8 malls from the list:

Mall of India - Not completed

See also the section on Jamuna Future Park

See also the section on SM Malls

Aricanduva Mall - GLA is 242,000 (http://www.easternct.edu/depts/amerst/MallsWorld.htm)

Sambil - There are no information indicating that 280,000 sqm is based on GLA

Christoffer Larsson (talk) 06:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

Since the malls are ranked by largest GLA, I removed these two malls from the list. They can be re-included once we have information about their GLA. Orionist (talk) 16:14, 12 May 2009 (UTC)

14	1 Utama	Petaling Jaya, Selangor Darul Ehsan, Malaysia		465,000 m² (5 million sq ft)
15	Mid Valley Megamall	Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia		420,000 m² (4.52 million sq ft)

Jamuna Future Park

Jamuna Future Park will have an area of 4,50,000 sft per floor. Why is it not included in the list? TheDhakaiya 28th December 2008

Jamuna Future Park has 10 STORIES SO WHY IS IT NOT ON THE LIST? I KEEP PUTTING IT UP BUT SOME GENIUS KEEPS REMOVING IT. Its actually 450,000 sq feet times 10 stories making it 4.5 MILLION SQ FEET. And its on 33 Acres not 10 Acres as someone suggested. This is a CONSPIRACY against our beloved BANGLADESH. PLEASE don't remove it again.—Preceding unsigned comment added by Amar11372 (talk • contribs) 03:58, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Also its 10 stories because 2 stories as parking, 7 stories for shopping, and plus 1 story for a hypermarket. 2+7+1= 10 stories. Its basic mathematics. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amar11372 (talk • contribs) 04:07, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Also someone said it doesn't look big on Google map. Well duh!!! Google map is 2D and not 3D. JFP has 9 stories + 1 story for super/hyper market remember. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Amar11372 (talk • contribs) 04:10, 12 January 2009 (UTC)

Removed from the list - Not completed, and numbers provided are based on total floor area, not GLA. Christoffer Larsson (talk) 06:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

SM Malls

SM Malls are all measured in GFA, since SM Owns the entire GFA, in the definition of GFA=GLA, Also, SM's hallways and all other spaces have been converted to Leasable space, which account's it's GFA as GLA even more. Google Maps for the Philippines is about 3-4 years old, many buildings has been changed/added since then. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cq40 (talk • contribs) 01:20, 10 January 2009 (UTC)

The 4 SM Malls in the Philippines removed from the list - this is the official site (http://www.smprime.com/index.php) for correct floor spaces. Christoffer Larsson (talk) 06:52, 18 January 2009 (UTC)

SM Mall Of Asia http://www.smmallofasia.com 386,000 sqm (Original) http://tigertales.sg/2008/11/01/all-things-great-mall/ 410,000 sqm (Expanded) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Cq40 (talk • contribs) 00:32, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

South China Mall

The South China Mall was never closed. It was renamed to New South China Mall and redeveloped. I was there two weeks ago. I have no idea why it was taken off this list. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 160.39.23.189 (talk) 21:42, 23 January 2009 (UTC)

The South China Mall is still open. At the very least, the information in the article that it "Turned down" last year is incorrect. The mall's website doesn't seem to have had any news releases posted on it since 2006 or so. But the mall still exists, appears to be open and it doesn't seem appropriate that it has been removed from the list.Ruedetocqueville (talk) 23:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

The Wikipedia article on the mall is wrong. A news piece linked to the Wiki article describes a January/February 2009 event at the mall. Ruedetocqueville (talk) 23:52, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Excuse me guys.

Does the New South China Mall is already open to the public again?

Some malls that are listed on here are not yet completed i think... —Preceding unsigned comment added by Shin368 (talk • contribs) 05:27, 11 April 2009 (UTC)

Table messed up

During the various edit wars that seem to affect this page, Aalsmeer has disappeared from the table altogether -- by all accounts, it needs to be restored. I'd do it myself but I'm not confident enough about the topic area. Gusworld (talk) 14:03, 15 March 2009 (UTC)

How detailed should the list of Special Categories be?

The list of Special Categories can easily be enlarged a lot of. It is possible to make very specific categories and thus getting hundreds of them. I personally think we could keep adding categories until it starts to "look silly". After that we can simply lift the list of Special Categories out to a separate page and only leave say the 10 most important or so.

Does anyone have an opinion on if we should keep adding categories or if we should keep an upper limit?

Does anyone object to me adding the category "Largest Public Toilet Complex"? (It is Porcelain Palace in Chongqing by the way) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.227.58.24 (talk) 09:03, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Angkor Wat is not that large

Angkor Wat is listed as having floor area of 1,000,000 m². The main temple is only about 250 m times 150 m and is only in one level. That would give it a floor area of roughly 37,500 m². The entire compounds it probably around 1,000,000 m² but most of that is forest or open spaces. Check out the article about Angkor Wat and you'll see that I'm right. Since this article is about buildings forests and lawns should not be included. Just like the parking lot are not included when you determine the size of a shopping mall. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 90.227.58.24 (talk) 09:19, 21 July 2009 (UTC)

Largest by volume?

Shouldn't there also be a list of the largest buildings where the definition is by volume rather than by floor area?

Large Hadron Collider

In my opinion Large Hadron Collider should be included on this page (unless there is a larger particle accelerator somewhere). Does anyone object to me adding the category "Largest Particle Accelerator" or "Largest Circular Building" or "Largest Research Building"? One problem is of course that it is mostly housed in a tunnel and not in a building. Does anyone have an idea of a way to include LHC without violating the intent with the article?