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So, and this is just an innocent question, nothing more: what happens to me if I am banned from Wikipedia? What is the next step? What happens after that? What else can you do? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.250.6.134|99.250.6.134]] ([[User talk:99.250.6.134|talk]]) 22:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
So, and this is just an innocent question, nothing more: what happens to me if I am banned from Wikipedia? What is the next step? What happens after that? What else can you do? <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/99.250.6.134|99.250.6.134]] ([[User talk:99.250.6.134|talk]]) 22:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot--> |
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:Why not just try to avoid being banned? It's easier than getting unbanned. But if you're curious, first study the [[WP:GAB|guide to appealing blocks]]. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 23:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC) |
:Why not just try to avoid being banned? It's easier than getting unbanned. But if you're curious, first study the [[WP:GAB|guide to appealing blocks]]. --[[User:Jpgordon|jpgordon]]<sup><small>[[User talk:Jpgordon|::==( o )]]</small></sup> 23:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC) |
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But that's what I'm not quite understanding. I've read the guide and it doesn't list anything about dealing with abusive administrators. It is essentially a guide on begging administrators for forgiveness, even if no wrong has been done. It's unwarranted abuse like this that makes me lose faith in Wikipedia. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction on where I might report you for your behaviour? Doesn't seem right that you hold all the cards and are free to bully me and others, whilst I have no recourse at all. |
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extend+protect
Do you mind extending the block of User:98.211.215.58 and protecting User talk:98.211.215.58 against anon editing due to this? I don't want to do it myself, due to the obvious COI (it'd be a direct response to the user). tedder (talk) 00:56, 3 August 2009 (UTC)
sorry to bother u again
i'm the guy u answer my music question the other day and this is ur answer below: It means you shouldn't notate rests as tied or continued over beats. So, for example, in 4/4, if your bar starts with a dotted quarter note, then a full beat of rest, then another dotted quarter note, you're expected to notate the rest as two eighth rests, rather than a single quarter rest
thax!but i still have problem with it because i'm from Taiwan so my English isn't that good..... so ,for example, "rests as tied or continued over beats" can u explain all more plainly?? and i can't really understand your example= = by the way,i know that quarter means crotchet,but what does full beat means? does it last 1 beat or 4 in 4/4?? sorry to cause u so much problem... this matter let me know that although music can be played everywhere,but language is still the barier...Vincecarter159753 (talk) 13:21, 6 August 2009 (UTC)vincecarter159753
- Yeah, I wasn't sure whether to talk about crotchets and quavers or quarter and eighth notes. And I'm not surprised I was unclear about whole beats. By "full beat" indeed I mean a crotchet in 4/4. I'd say "full measure" for 4 beats in 4/4. My browser doesn't know how to do musical notes (or if it does, I don't), so I need to make up a couple symbols here. Let's say X is a crotchet, X. is a dotted crotchet, Y is a crotchet rest, and Z is a quaver rest. This means you can't write a measure of | X. Y X. | even though it does add up to four beats; rather, you're expected to write the measure as | X. Z Z X. | -- does this make any sense? (By the way, are you studying music using Mícheál Houlahan's "From Sound to Symbol"? That's the only place I saw the phrase you used.) --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:19, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Any comments on the individual IP?—Kww(talk) 17:41, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
- Oh, that's a no-brainer. Behavior alone suffices. --jpgordon::==( o ) 18:48, 6 August 2009 (UTC)
Thanks
Hiya Jpgordon. Thanks for freeing me. The IP address is slightly different from the one I had years ago. Is the fact that I got a new computer 2-yrs ago, the reason for the different IP? GoodDay (talk) 20:20, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Computer shouldn't have anything to do with it. IPs change, sometimes daily, sometimes, much slower, depending on the druthers of your particular ISP. --jpgordon::==( o ) 20:25, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
- Okie Dokie. GoodDay (talk) 20:30, 7 August 2009 (UTC)
Impostor account(s)
I had previously posted this info on User talk:Versageek and will also be taking it to User:Bigtimepeace:
The account Childof12AM (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) is an obvious impostor of User:ChildofMidnight. He shows no contribs [2] because his attempts to edit my page (and presumably to stir something up) were blocked. I just wonder if this is part of the Liebman family of socks, or if its coming from somewhere else, like maybe the Pioneercourthouse sockfarm? Those are the most obvious possibilities that come to mind. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 15:17, 10 August 2009 (UTC)
And another impostor, calling himself BBBfan (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) turned up, also trying to foment trouble, i.e. to interfere with the contact ban between me and User:ChildofMidnight. I'm suspicious of Pioneercourthouse, just because he's also been active in the last couple of days. However, PCH is jumping from one country to another with his IP's, so there's probably not much that can be done there except to whack the moles as they pop up. Baseball Bugs What's up, Doc? carrots 05:58, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
- Didn't see anything I recognized, and there weren't any lovely piles of sleepers. --jpgordon::==( o ) 13:59, 11 August 2009 (UTC)
Westboro Baptist Church
Hey. I saw that you've made some edits on this article. Someone just went through and pretty thoroughly gutted the article. Rather than get into an edit war, I was wondering if you could weigh in on the issue. It may very well be that people prefer the smaller version, but another opinion is always welcome. Thanks! — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 02:59, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
Jonund is back on the talk page, saying that it is an "unfair demand" that he be asked to provide sourcing for including information regarding King's sexual proclivities. There's this phrase I've heard , although I'm not sure if its really appropriate for this instance, "topic ban"? John Carter (talk) 13:54, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
- He can say whatever he wants; if he doesn't get consensus, the stuff doesn't go on the article page, regardless of his feelings. --jpgordon::==( o ) 14:07, 13 August 2009 (UTC)
User:Inuit18 is sockpuppet
You just declined User:Inuit18 request for unblock, he is a sockpuppet of banned User:Šāhzādé (a.k.a User:Draco of Utopia, User:Germany2008, User:Anoshirawan...), just compare his edit summary, behaviour and articles worked on. If you do a Check User it will confirm,,,, he is a racist, cursing at people of other race and all his edits are racist. His usual IP should be in Germany.--119.73.4.166 (talk) 22:44, 14 August 2009 (UTC)
- Thanks, I'll investigate. --jpgordon::==( o ) 00:15, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Sorry I was not precise with my early report. According to this RFCU report, admin User:Thatcher explained that the banned racist vandal User:Anoshirawan is in the United States. [3] The same banned racist vandal from the US created this new ID (User:Inuit18) and can be seen doing the following vandalism. [4], [5], [6], [7] If that's not enough proof then compare the decorations of banned User:Anoshirawan and his new sockpuppet. Anoshirawan in 2008 and Sockpuppet now --119.73.3.103 (talk) 21:01, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
Please use WP:SPI for this. Thank you. --jpgordon::==( o ) 21:04, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- Aren't you an administrator with Check User tools? You're telling me you are scared to block a proven sockpuppet? I don't know how to file the report there, if you can help start it.--119.73.3.103 (talk) 21:11, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- "Scared"? Go away and ask for help from someone you haven't just pissed off. --jpgordon::==( o ) 21:38, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
According to many wikipedians this IP is the banned user NisarKand. I am a new user on wikipedia and I am not a sockpuppet. none of these links can prove that I am this Anoshirawan.--Inuit18 (talk) 08:50, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
I need some admin help
I know that WP:Flag policy says if there is an flag in the infobox of a sportsperson it should only BE flags of the country the person represented internationally and if someone hasn't played international they get the country they played in or the country they have expressed loyalty to. You see if you look at most WikiProject Ice Hockey articles this is not the case for most articles. So before I new about WP:Flag policy I assumed that it was if you are allowed to represent a country then you get that flag. So I put a Canadian flag on Alexei Ponikarovsky (He's canadian but hasn't represented team Canada just Team Ukraine) page and got referred to WP:Flag policy. So then I took off a Ukraine flag on Nikolai Zherdev because he has only represented Russia and has never represented Ukraine. Weirdly enough the same user that stopped from taking off a flag on Alexei stopped me taking one off on Nikolai. So there seems to be a weird double standard with the people a part of [[[WikiProject Ice Hockey]] and to make things worse they do not comply with wikipedia policy. I have no clue what to do because what WikiProject Ice Hockey is doing is contradiictary to wikipedia policy, but they also seem have a double standard that most of them all agree with. I would think they couldn't change wikipedia policy in their one corner and would have to take it up with administers, but that is not what they have done. If you can get back to me it'll be nice. --ThxFire 55 (talk) 08:53, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- How have they explained it to you? --jpgordon::==( o ) 14:55, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- I got told by someone on my talk page that about WP:Flag policy then when I changed Zhedev's flag (since he's never played for team Ukraine) it kept getting reverted. I got the thing by just reading over Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey#Infobox Question: Nationality field .2F Flags. As you can see none of them agree with each other which produces this double standard, which only depends on the man editor of the articles choice. There was a proposal to change the name to International Representation (link here) which would make the WP:Flag policy more clear, but that was months ago. You look at countless articles like Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, etc. and they all don't follow WP:Flag while some do.--Fire 55 (talk) 22:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- I guess you should be discussing this somewhere relevant; I don't know much about it. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- The question is where to discuss this since I can't discuss it on the wikiproject talk pages since no one agrees there. Plus they can't make a change to WP:Flag policy. This is just a matter of most (not all) people in a project not following wikipedia rules. So where do I take this up.?--Fire 55 (talk) 23:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- Maybe on one of the Village Pump pages? I actually don't know much about this sort of policy fine tuning. It might just be one of those areas nobody agrees about right now. --jpgordon::==( o ) 05:56, 16 August 2009 (UTC)
- The question is where to discuss this since I can't discuss it on the wikiproject talk pages since no one agrees there. Plus they can't make a change to WP:Flag policy. This is just a matter of most (not all) people in a project not following wikipedia rules. So where do I take this up.?--Fire 55 (talk) 23:45, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- I guess you should be discussing this somewhere relevant; I don't know much about it. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:05, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
- I got told by someone on my talk page that about WP:Flag policy then when I changed Zhedev's flag (since he's never played for team Ukraine) it kept getting reverted. I got the thing by just reading over Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject Ice Hockey#Infobox Question: Nationality field .2F Flags. As you can see none of them agree with each other which produces this double standard, which only depends on the man editor of the articles choice. There was a proposal to change the name to International Representation (link here) which would make the WP:Flag policy more clear, but that was months ago. You look at countless articles like Steve Yzerman, Brett Hull, etc. and they all don't follow WP:Flag while some do.--Fire 55 (talk) 22:59, 15 August 2009 (UTC)
WASSUP MUVVAFUKKA?
YO YO YO WASSUP MA HOMIES N BI TCHES? WAS YO PUNK ASS UP TO THESE DAYS INNIT YO? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.108.234.82 (talk) 10:25, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- This is the English Wikipedia; in order to communicate with other users, it's better to write in English. -FisherQueen (talk · contribs) 10:39, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
User:Irrito
Sorry, but don't you think this is a little obtuse given the reams of text placed immediately following the template. At least give the guy a fair hearing even if he can't work out how to use the template properly. GDallimore (Talk) 15:53, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- A little obtuse, yeah. Feel free to undo it, but unthinking reverts always annoy me. --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:56, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Toally agreed, this guy is a bit heavy-handed on the reverts and I wish he'd been blocked a week ago, but I have to say I think he's being treated unfairly here. GDallimore (Talk) 16:00, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
whois template
Thanks for cutting the Gordian knot. I apologise for omitting you in my little list; I felt a single revert wasn't enough to justify inclusion. ;-) Hans Adler 16:48, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
- Welcome. --jpgordon::==( o ) 16:51, 17 August 2009 (UTC)
Hi there; this user has apparently been caught up in a checkuser block applied by you to IP 194.176.105.40. He is asking for IP exemption. He has only a sparse editing history, but it does reach back to 2007, so may well be ok. I do note that two years ago he was caught in an autoblock of IP 194.176.105.39, which may be wholly irrelevant. I am unhappy awarding IP exemption without your approval; perhaps you could look at his request? --Anthony.bradbury"talk" 08:31, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- I separately reviewed Drobba's edits and found them to be appropriate overall. He edits topics related to the UK and the British Empire, although quite sparsely. I think IPBE is probably okay but it wouldn't hurt for you to have a look and see if this looks like a sock of whoever was causing trouble on this IP. Mangojuicetalk 14:30, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- I've never quite understood why UK National Health Service IPs are such annoying sources of vandalism, but they're quite widely used by perfectly good registered users as well, so, yeah, go right ahead and IPBEatify. --jpgordon::==( o ) 15:06, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
Anti-Semetism
I must beg you not to continue reverting my edits based solely on the fact that I am Jewish. I find it extremely offensive that Wikipedia would even tolerate such discrimination, but I am perhaps most disgusted with you and your bigotry. I beg of you to cease and desist your actions fueled by hatred. If it is a legitimate reversion I can fully accept that, but since you have not given a reason for any of the reversions you have made to my edits, other than "Because that kike wrote it" I must draw the conclusion that you are a racist. I must also ask that you halt your personal crusade against me and my talk page, and that you stop inventing rules by which to govern. As an admin you are to follow a strict guideline as set out by Wikipedia, and are not permitted to create your own editing rules, especially those driven by your anti-semetism. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.6.134 (talk) 22:50, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- As Tom Lehrer once said, "don't write naughty words on walls if you can't spell." Trying to get reblocked quickly? This isn't a bad way to go about it. --jpgordon::==( o ) 22:55, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
So, and this is just an innocent question, nothing more: what happens to me if I am banned from Wikipedia? What is the next step? What happens after that? What else can you do? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.250.6.134 (talk) 22:58, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
- Why not just try to avoid being banned? It's easier than getting unbanned. But if you're curious, first study the guide to appealing blocks. --jpgordon::==( o ) 23:02, 19 August 2009 (UTC)
But that's what I'm not quite understanding. I've read the guide and it doesn't list anything about dealing with abusive administrators. It is essentially a guide on begging administrators for forgiveness, even if no wrong has been done. It's unwarranted abuse like this that makes me lose faith in Wikipedia. Perhaps you could point me in the right direction on where I might report you for your behaviour? Doesn't seem right that you hold all the cards and are free to bully me and others, whilst I have no recourse at all.