Talk:Kanye West

Single with Kid CuDi

I think someone should add that he featured on Kid CuDi's new single "Make Her Say" —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.141.176.204 (talk) 21:39, 17 July 2009 (UTC)

Political Views

From the article: In the song "Crack Music", Kanye West rapped, "How [did] we stop the Black Panthers?/Ronald Reagan cooked up an answer," a reference to the conspiracy theory that the Reagan administration intentionally placed crack cocaine in the ghettos of the United States.[68] It is not fair to assume Kanye actually believes this because he rapped it. Especially on a song like this. Later, he suggests George Bush gave Saddam Hussein anthrax. It's certainly possible he believes this, but that's not really for us to decide.--68.56.17.70 (talk) 16:14, 10 April 2009 (UTC)

Confused about Alexis Rainey and Alexis Phifer

It would be helpful if someone could edit this article to clear up a point of confusion. Could there be some text added explaining that Alexis Phifer and Alexis Rainey are two different people (if, indeed, they are)? In the Graduation section, it states that Kanye broke up with Alexis Rainey in May 2007. In the following section, Glow in the Dark Tour, it states "Kanye West and designer Alexis Phifer ended their 18-month engagement in 2008. The couple had been dating on and off since 2002." Was he dating Alexis Rainey while he was engaged to Alexis Phifer? Are they the same person and the dates are incorrect?

Thank you for your consideration.

71.56.35.54 (talk) 05:42, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

.. Well, my level of consciousness has since raised. And I actually think that standing up for gays was even more crazy than bad-mouthing the president. In the black community, someone could label you gay and bring your career down. But that was me showing what black people are really about today, or at least what we need to be about.[70]

Article is from February 2006, not October 2007. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 77.105.49.152 (talk) 02:04, 19 April 2009 (UTC)

Why does Kanye Redirect here?

Why on earth does Kanye redirect here? That's absolutely ridiculous. This man doesn't just use his first name like Madonna or Jewel. There's no reason for it. I believe the town and the name have been around a lot longer than this guy. Sixthcrusifix (talk) 00:15, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

Agreed, moved it to redirect to disambiguation. Mfield (Oi!) 00:26, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

well it's been changed again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.13.137.159 (talk) 07:06, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

The article mistakingly says Blueprint 2 instead of Blueprint

Under Early career it says "West’s sound is featured heavily on Jay-Z's critically acclaimed album The Blueprint 2, released on September 11, 2001." But the 2 shouldn't be there. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.67.31.28 (talk) 08:08, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

The change was made by an editor who has been vandalising a number of articles. I have fixed the problem. --AussieLegend (talk) 08:21, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

DJ Jack Beatz presents: Kanye West - The Winner

Recently I came across this CD in a discount bin. It sounds like it was genuine Kanye West rare stuff (freestyle, interludes, skits, etc; 18 tracks altogether) but the whole packing and design are a bit hokey. It was released by The Hip Hop Village but at this moment the "products" section on their web is under construction so I can't check. The product bar code is 5060160720519. Any idea what this is? Is it real or fake? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.173.30.81 (talk) 11:32, 5 June 2009 (UTC)

New Single Street Lights

You guys should add it because i don't know how to but its out with the cover here http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_6lV5hzNR1fU/SS-4TpCNyEI/AAAAAAAABlw/EHiUgNfUc88/s400/street+lignts.jpeg and with the video on youtube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by WildWolf012 (talk • contribs) 02:49, 3 July 2009 (UTC) WildWolf012 (talk) 02:54, 3 July 2009 (UTC)

Voice Type

I think someone should add his voice type to main section. Anyone have any idea what his voice type is? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 88.253.76.110 (talk) 20:24, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

Camp. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.176.203 (talk • contribs) 07:39, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

Mother's Death

Is it really necessary for the Mother's Death section, I mean you don't see Father's death on Jay-Z' Wikipedia page... Although it's widely known that he was very close to his mother and her death may have had a big impact on his new style of music it's kind of weird to include it in his biography.. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 74.69.176.203 (talk • contribs) 07:38, 19 July 2009 (UTC)

First major label song produced

The article states that Kanye's first major label production was on Beanie Sigel's The Truth album, which was released in 2000. However, the Jermaine Dupri album Life in 1472 features a track credited to Kanye, and that was released in 1998 by Columbia Records, so that would be his first major label song in actuality. 98.210.151.12 (talk) 05:12, 3 August 2009 (UTC)

Kanye West Late Registration 2

Kanye West Late Registration 2 - 2010 —Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.19.49.111 (talk) 21:41, 4 August 2009 (UTC)

Could someone proofread...

Could someone proofread this page? I've noticed a few errors that were easily filled with a spellchecker, and while not necessarily incorrect, they weren't correct. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 206.255.64.7 (talk) 20:19, 5 August 2009 (UTC)

Ghostwriters

I've heard that many of West's songs are ghostwritten. Can anyone confirm this? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jamie3039 (talk • contribs) 14:48, 29 August 2009 (UTC)

Yes his songs are mostly written by Casper, Slimer, and Hamlet's father.--98.125.188.151 (talk) 03:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

^ Good one! . . . . Not. I have heard the same though. 98.196.78.26 (talk) 03:41, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

You need a reliable source. Rumors aren't enough. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 06:27, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Full protection

Enough is enough. The article was already semi protected for unconnected vandalism and that should have been enough to prevent this drive by vandalism, but multiple established editors have been engaged in extreme violations of our BLP policy, repeatedly posting content that is defamatory and attacks the subject directly. Please note that the WP:BLP policy applies also to talk pages and posting of such content here or anywhere else will not be tolerated. The full protection can be dropped back to semi once the next big story comes along and people forget about this/calm down. In the mean time use {{editprotected}} to request changes. Mfield (Oi!) 05:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Whoa. I understand Wikipedia is not censored, but your introduction is quite unnecessary. There is no need to take that attitude (you know this as an established editor and administrator) with what you know is a controversial page at the moment. If anything, you could've been nicer about it. I do agree with protection, however. —Mr. E. Sánchez (that's me!)^{What I Do} / _{What I Say} 07:34, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

An IP editor had altered my comment hence the introduction you saw. Mfield (Oi!) 15:09, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

The article states that Kanye appologized via his blog. This sentence is currently unsourced. I was going to add a cite to a reliable source: Kanye West Apologizes To Taylor Swift For VMA Rant, but the article cannot be edited. Instead of blanket protection of an article, why don't we topic ban editors who are unable to abide by policies? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 12:21, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

It has been cited now, thanks. I think protection is the best course of action here. There were multiple established editors posting, there is no way to predict which editors would add the defamatory content and so we cannot topic ban anyone before they edit. As such, there was always going to be defamatory and extremely unsavoury material on the page. The only answer was full protection. Woody (talk) 12:30, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

How about assuming good faith until an editor violates the rules and then topic ban the editor? I've never had a WP:BLP violation against me so I don't see why I should be punished for the actions of others.

Also, isn't the type of editor who can't follow WP:BLP on this article the same type of editor who's inclined to violate WP:BLP on other articles? If their actions aren't specifically addressed, then aren't they likely to simply do it again some other time? A Quest For Knowledge (talk) 12:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Assuming good faith stretches only so far, the horrific page history is a testament to this. The editors making the violations were not the usual candidates which is why the protection is the only option. If the page is unprotected, no doubt it would have BLP violations on it for half the day, the other half spent reverting them. Until flagged revisions is implemented this is the only option. Woody (talk) 12:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Kanye Drunk at 2006 VMAs

Shouldn't the article note that West admitted he was drunk during his rant after losing at the 2006 VMAs? Here's the link from MTV: http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1544794/20061103/west_kanye.jhtml --Mikeman67 (talk) 06:17, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Controversy's Page?

This is just an idea. Maybe, we should just create a page with all of his controversies on it. NeoJustin ^{(Talk page)} 06:59, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Not a bad idea, but I don't think it would fly because it would be kinda difficult to write a page about his controversies without it havin' a point of view. Just my opinion though. Crash Underride 07:26, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Most of the controversies pages have been AFD'd into more of a neutral "Public perception" page. However, I really don't think there's enough to warrant a separate page for him. What probably needs to be done is more summarizing and cutting down some unnecessary details. For example, is it really that relevant that Kayne didn't win the 2006 Grammy but U2 did and he opened for them? In retrospect to his entire career, that's a pretty minor point. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:52, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

How about a controversy section? Currently, there is a section titled "Awards and controversy" or something to that effect, but only spans the time around 2006. To find more current stuff, you have to scroll down to a section with a title that does not say anything about controversy. This should all be grouped into a "Kanye controversy" section, in order to make the page more navigable. ---Debollweevil (talk) 14:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Kanye's 2009 VMA Blog Entry

The apology Kanye West made has since been removed from his blog. However, it was preserved here. MatthewKeys (talk) 07:31, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

A citation has now been added, thanks. Woody (talk) 12:28, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

More on VMA

Hello, I know that this article is about Kanye West, but there is some information on the Taylor Swift page that I think would improve this article. I'm quoting it below so that it can be added once protection is removed, if you think this is good to add:

When Beyonce later won the award for Best Video of the Year for "Single Ladies," she called Swift up on stage so that she could finish her acceptance speech.

Maybe in a shorter version. LovesMacs (talk) 07:42, 14 September 2009 (UTC) I'm thinking this is a one time thing? Nooot. Belonging to the NAACP I believe I can say this; You can take a punk from the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto from the punk. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Bobofnaples (talk • contribs) 14:53, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Kayne's opinions (on music video style, concept, movement, and etc)

I am interested in Kayne's thoughts on why he thinks Beyonce's "Single Ladies" video is the best video of the decade or ever especially in comparison to Taylor Swifts' "You Belong to Me." I am interested in if this is related to some kind of artistic movement whereas less, in pose of time, direction, and settings, as well as adding more sex appeal is better than artistic approaches of Taylor Swifts' video. Is Kayne subscribing to some form of post-modernism or some view that focuses more on short messages or flashy appeal? I think his artistic approach is thus more so with simplistic is better ? What artistic movement is this part of? Sp0 (talk) 06:55, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

See WP:TALK. This talk page is for discussion about the article itself, not general discussion. -- Ricky81682 (talk) 08:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

After some thinking, with regard to artistic videos, I think Kayne appreciates or has more inclination towards short but flashy video visuals. We could further develop or expand this to its relation to types of artistic movements. IE, we could try to understand his thinking as well as artistic approach and opinion as an artist. Supporting this, is that he preferred or liked flashy-ness of "Touch the Sky" video; however, I that video is more complex. Thus, how much flashiness regardless of visual content, whether simple (like "Single Ladies") or complex (like "Touch the Sky"), might be his more directual approach or interests. Therefore, from this, he might like more special effects that give flashiness or whatever gives flashiness rather than non-flashiness. The whole point is understanding his views, expanding on his theories and opinions, and relating it to artistic movements as a whole. Sp0 (talk) 16:43, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

VMA's

When Taylor Swift won for best female video at the 2009 VMA's he got up on stage and took the spotlight away from Taylor by saying Beyonce had one of the best videos of all time, and pretty much that Beyonce deserved that award more than Taylor Swift. For the rest of the show he was booed when his name was brought up, and twitter, myspace, and facebook were flooded with updates about his obnoxious display. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.228.2.126 (talk) 02:39, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

I have added a little blurb about what recently happened at the VMAs. I am having a bit of trouble with the formatting. If anyone can help me fix it I would appreciate it. I have a citation going to TMZ's article, but I royally screwed up the citation for it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Areusche (talk • contribs) 03:10, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Kanye West Apology

He recently apologized to Taylor Swift and her mom according to Kanye's blog MatthewKeys (talk) 12:07, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Now cited thanks, Woody (talk) 12:27, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Apology means nothing if he keeps doing his stuff. Media executives with any level of sanity would ban him from public award shows and media appearances in general. --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 14:32, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

According to the same news source, he removed the blog posting where he apologized. That should be added since it shows how serious he was with his "apology". "West's blog entry has since been removed from his website."--Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 15:37, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Proposing separate section for media interruptions

The record of Kanye West's past incidents needs to put in a separate section on his page. The section could be called "Interruptions during Media performances" or something like that to make it prominent. --Matt57 ^{(talk•contribs)} 16:03, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Gretchen Wilson

Why isn't Kanye's comments about Gretchen at the 2004 Grammy's listed here? this isn't a first for Kanye... —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.10.215.230 (talk) 15:50, 14 September 2009 (UTC)