User talk:J Bar

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Commons

Hi Jim - thanks again for all the photos. I have a suggestion that you might like to take up. With the large amount of photos you are uploading, you might at this stage want to sign up to Wikimedia Commons and upload your photos there. This enables your photos to be used in any Wikimedia project and not just Wikipedia - so people from other language projects, Wikitravel, etc. can all use the photos. You need to go here and sign up (as "J Bar") and then you click on "Upload file" on the left and upload your files as per normal. You can use categories like [[Category:Sydney]] for Sydney-related photos and [[Category:Train stations in Sydney]] for railway station pics. This will save those users who want to use them on other projects a lot of time having to download your photos and then reupload them in other projects. I have done all your photos on railway stations up until today, so you won't need to put them up. (JROBBO 06:23, 5 September 2006 (UTC))

Thank you

Thank you for your recent report at the administrators' noticeboard about a vandal user. You did an excellent job reverting the vandalism and restoring the integrity of the articles. If you encounter a similar situation again, you should do a couple of things differently.

Instead of warning a user "by hand", as you did, you should provide a formal [[WP:WARN|user warning template such as {{subst:uw-vandalism1}}, which gives you the following message:

Welcome to Wikipedia. Although we invite everyone to contribute constructively to our encyclopedia, at least one of your recent edit, such as the one you made to Punchbowl, New South Wales, was not constructive and has been reverted or removed. Please use the sandbox for any test edits you would like to make, and take a look at the welcome page to learn more about contributing to this encyclopedia. Thank you.

If the user does not stop, you can escalate to {{subst:uw-vandalism2}}, 3, and 4, and after that you should file a report at Wikipedia:Administrator intervention against vandalism to block the user. Sometimes you can start the warnings at a number higher than 1 if the vandalism is already severe for multiple edits. In rare cases it is appropriate to block vandals without any warning at all. The general advice is to use your judgment, don't bite the newcomers, and ask the administrators if you need any help (just like you did this time, though I'm actually not an administrator). Let me know if you have any questions. Shalom ^Hello 06:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Federation

If you're interested in more Fed. material, I've just started a Fed gallery at commons. I realized I had shots of all 12 styles, so I might as well go for it.Federation Do you remember the sydney architecture.com site I told you about? They've used all my shots of the Abbey and witches houses, without giving me a credit. Might have some of yours too. I emailed them, asking for a credit, but no response yet.Sardaka (talk) 09:38, 22 January 2008 (UTC)

Article Hits

I found there's a site that keeps a record of the number of hits each article has had. The suburbs articles have had hundreds of hits per month. Nice to know. I was starting to wonder if anyone read them. The site is at [1] if you want to check it out. Sardaka (talk) 12:20, 21 February 2008 (UTC)

Hi!

Remember Me?.....

--767-294ER (talk) 06:43, 16 October 2008 (UTC)

Archive shots

Have you seen the archive shots that have been donated by the state library? Tons of stuff you could probably use: [2]

I see you're having problems with deletion nominations. So am I. One of my articles -- actually a list of Blue Mts articles -- has been nominated for deletion. Would you like to take a look and maybe add an opinion? There's a link at the bottom of my talk page. I'll have a look at yours while I'm here.

Sardaka (talk) 11:13, 9 November 2008 (UTC)

Re: Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/PoorPhotoremovalist

Hi, we can't do much if you don't provide a rationale for the investigation, and who do you think is related to the user you listed. Thanks! -- lucasbfr ^talk, checkuser clerk, 08:44, 14 February 2009 (UTC).

Cronulla

Hi, I have noticed the removal of some of you pics from the Cronulla article. I have reverted this edit to restore the images but when I move back to Sydney in a few weeks time I will be heading down to Cronulla to take some images with a new camera I have recently bought. I hope you won't mind. Adam (talk) 08:59, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Photos

Thanks for telling me about this business. I'll follow it up as soon as I get a bit of time. Might be a case for RfC.

Who is Miranda?

Sardaka (talk) 10:10, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Just had a look and left a message on his talk page. Can you mention some specific pages I can look at?

Sardaka (talk) 10:53, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

Article deletions

Thanks for letting me know. Because I left a few message on his user page yesterday (warnings). I have noticed that he has been indefblocked. The name sounds like a vandal name, the kind of name a deletionist[sic] would have. I also warned this user for offending you as well, you may have seen the edit summary [3] . Adam (talk) 08:24, 18 February 2009 (UTC)

I just had a look at the conclusions and the sock happened to be:

• Loy Wong (talk⁺ · tag · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log · CA · CheckUser(log) · investigate · cuwiki) blocked for abusive sockpuppetry.

• Maybe the one that you mentioned and the above are linked

For a while it looked as though the heat was on you but that was proven wrong . Adam (talk) 02:02, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Punctuation in Place Names

I've had a look across Wikipedia including the Manual of Style and other places, including the Geographical Names Board of NSW and there is NOTHING to definitively say NO punctuation in place names. Only the bureaucratic Names Board advises to AVOID using diacritical marks in road names and seeks to eliminate posessives. Such marks - especially apostrophes where places names are named after people with O' at the front of their name - are used across the nation, and the argument is far from done regarding possessives. Even the most common elimination, that of the full stop after St for Saint, is only about 50-50 - check St. Andrew's Cathedral, Sydney. Its NOT a reason by itself to be renaming entire articles without consensus. Mdw0 (talk) 02:43, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

It WAS you that renamed the St George Stadium article, right? And who remarked 'punctuation not used in place names'? Mdw0 (talk) 06:34, 20 February 2009 (UTC)

Bureaucracies are always official - thats what gives them their power. That dosent make them right. They follow the policies of a government or a high-ranking official, policies which can be changed. In this case they are going against common usage, so they've got an uphill battle, and for no reason that I can see other than they dont understand how to use punctuation correctly. I agree one full stop really isnt worth fussing sbout, but it was the attaching remaerk and in your replies that no puntuation at all is used in place names that needed correction. Not even the Geographical Names Board says that. Punctuation is most certainly used, especially apostrophes. Punctuation isnt any more antiquated than spelling. It indicates certain unspoken information that is important. And the stadium is most definitely still used - when I find out by which groups I'll edit the article. Mdw0 (talk) 22:27, 22 February 2009 (UTC)

Brighton-le-Sands has TWO pieces of punctuation in it. Two hyphens. Apostrophes are punctuation too. What about O'Connell, near Bathurst? More punctuation. I'm sure there's a suburb on the Sunshine Coast that has a D' - something like D'Amato. Or what about the D'Entrecasteaux island group or the D'entrecasteaux National Park in WA? But of course that's interstate, out of the clutches of the Geographical Names Board. They seem to have been successful in getting rid of the full stops after St, but saying no punctuation is ever appropriate in place names just doesn't bear up under scrutiny. Rather than remove the punctuation and trying to make something incorrect the standard, the Names Baord should've set an example and standardised correct English punctuation and spelling. Sometimes they even take the posessive apostrophe out without taking out the possesive s - like Paddys River, near Goulburn, which is just stupid. If they were so worried about people spelling it wrong, why would they then go and standardise a version which isn't correct at any time, ever? I don't think standards should be lowered just because a certain percentage of people don't know how to get it right. People who muck up punctuation will also muck up the spelling because the same education or lack thereof applies to understanding of all text, not just the dots and dashes. Mdw0 (talk) 07:35, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

114.76.210.127

I see you tagged the IP address 114.76.210.127 as a sockpuppet of 767-249ER. As far as I can tell, the edits from this IP address look like several recent edits by Hamish Ross sockpuppets on User talk:The JPS. What reasons do you have for the 767-249ER connection? עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 09:26, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

He vandalised the user pages of Onorem, J Bar, Trusilver, Loy Wong on the 10th February by making a connection between those users, just as 767 has done in the past. Maybe Hamish Ross is another sock puppet of 767. J Bar (talk) 11:27, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

1. If anything, 767-249ER is a sockpuppet of Hamish Ross, not the other way around - Hamish Ross has an indef block from April 2006, 1 year and 7 months before the 767-249ER account was created.
2. The records of other 767-249ER accounts/IP addresses don't seem to resemble edits like this (a Hamish Ross sock) and this. Other than the username RossRat51, I don't see a connection between these sockpuppeteers.
3. I see nothing odd about Hamish Ross attacking Onorem - on February 5th, Onorem was one of the users reverting Hamish Ross's sockpuppets' edits on User talk:The JPS.

עוד מישהו Od Mishehu 11:54, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

Deleter

Hope things settle down now. I was wondering if he was a user called Pixelcounter, who was abusing me recently because he doesn't like my photos. Might be a connection. Trouble is that he (PoorPhoto etc) was partly right, because there are some crappy shots around that don't deserve to be there, but we can't go round acting like a sledgehammer.

Sardaka (talk) 09:48, 19 February 2009 (UTC)

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Rodd Point

Hi J Bar.

I just noticed your photo of Rodd Point (This one). I noticed the gate under the rock. Do you know what this is and exactly where I can find it. Looks as though it needs to be investigated, maybe. The information on that plaque in the photo might explain. If it is something notable a picture of the plaque could be used as a reference for further info in the article. . Adam (talk) 05:21, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Thanks for the lead, I've just checked it out. Maybe there should be a brief mention of this in the article seeing as though you've got the photo of it. We could use the link that you have provided as a reference or even hav just a brief mention in the caption and yes I thought it was either a tomb or some kind of tunnel, like this one that I have photographed. It gets about three-thousand-five-hundred hits a month. Adam (talk) 07:30, 21 February 2009 (UTC)

Additional information needed on Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/767-249ER

Hello. Thank you for filing Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/767-249ER. This is an automated notice to inform you that the case is currently missing a code letter, which indicates to checkusers why a check is valid. Please revisit the page and add this. Sincerely, SPCUClerkbot (talk) 01:21, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

Talkback

Hello, J Bar. You have new messages at Wikipedia:Sockpuppet investigations/767-249ER.
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 Additional information needed a CU request cannot be considered unless you provide evidence in the shape of diffs Mayalld (talk) 09:39, 25 February 2009 (UTC)

SPI cases

 Clerk note: please don't add additional heading levels to cases, as it stops the bot from processing them. Mayalld (talk) 11:03, 10 March 2009 (UTC)

Semi protect

You should ask for you user and talk page to be semi protected so that only logged in users may edit these pages. Adam (talk) 02:07, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

• I have a feeling that the person who is doing this has Psychological problems. Adam (talk) 02:09, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Categories

These categories are a bit of a mystery. When I get an email saying a cat is needed, I look at the image page and there's already a cat on it. Then I upload a shot with a cat, and when I look at the page there's no cat on it. However, I'll follow your suggestion about the suburbs cats. Am doing South Coogee now, which seems to have no cat at the moment. PS You sure get hassled by some idiots, by the looks of it.

Sardaka (talk) 09:29, 12 March 2009 (UTC)

Promise

From now on I will leave you and your friends alone.

--114.77.199.50 (talk) 11:21, 22 March 2009 (UTC)

love ya long time

Double image template

Hi J Bar.

Have you ever come across the double image template, It might be useful in certain areas. Below is an example:

• . Adam (talk) 02:51, 23 March 2009 (UTC)

Rhodes remediation

Hi J Barr, I see you have done a lot of work on suburbs of Sydney which is great, but I think you are having some difficulties either understanding or describing the scope and location of the remediation at Rhodes.

By way of background, I spent 5 years of my life working on this issue including a parliamentary commission of inquiry and 2 planning commissions of inquiry, a contested FOI application and numerous other meetings including up to a short meeting with the Minister and Head of the EPA ass well as a number with local Councillors, MP, MLA, Shadow Minister for Planning

Virtually all the western side of the line has been or will be subject to some form of remediation (with the exception of the area bounded by Walker, Mary, Marquet and Osgathorpe). Most of the sediment within 20 metres of the seawall opposite the length of the shopping centre were remediated for lead, most of the sediments within 50 metres of the seawall from the northern end of the Peninsula to 100 metres south of the play equipment at the park opposite Mary Street are/have been remediated for dioxins to a depth of 0.5 m. While the Commercial area has been remediated to reduce pollutants from Berger Paints and CSR/Orica chemicals, so have all the former Union Carbide and Allied Feeds sites and part of the Statewide site in Marquet St cnr Osgathorpe St. If you are interested I would be happy to take you on a tour one Saturday or Sunday and show you around.

cheers Paul dinghy (talk) 06:51, 30 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi J, Read your message. Thanks. Templates are great and I agree the Wikipedia is supposed to be Encylopaedic. But blind adherence is not a WP rule and this suburb is extremely different to other suburbs. One third of a whole suburb required remediation because of contamination. One quarter of the Bay on one side of the Peninsula required remediation because of the contamination. The contamination required total commercial fin fishing bans in the whole of Sydney Harbour. What other suburb of any city in Australia has that history? It deserves a separate heading because it dominates the redevelopment of a third of the suburb. It is important enough in this suburb to justify its own heading. The fact that it is not a heading in a template does not mean that it should not have it's own heading. To downplay the importance would be contrary to WP being Encyclopaedic!!! Remember, it's WP:BEBOLD not WP:ObeyTemplate The offer of a tour of the UCAL contaminated remediation area is still open if you are interested! Cheers Paul dinghy (talk) 07:26, 31 March 2009 (UTC)

Hi J, As you've seen I thought about it and put remediation under History as you suggested. As to balance, with Wikipedia and multi editor articles, people write the sections they know about. Hopefully some indigenous person with a good oral history of the area can add in something about the 40,000 years before the last 250, but there's no reason to wait until we can cover that 99.375% of the history before we write what we can about the 0.625% we know about. As others contribute in other areas of knowledge about Rhodes the article will get more extensive and balanced, but until then, why ignore or downplay such a major part of the suburb's history and its impact? Have a good Easter. Cheers Paul dinghy (talk) 07:25, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Help required

Do you know how to put a message in the edit mode so it can be read by anyone editing the article, but doesn't show in the article? Have seen it done but can't remember how exactly. Something to do with angle brackets or something?

Sardaka (talk) 10:38, 15 April 2009 (UTC)

Answer

Thanks for your response.

Sardaka (talk) 10:43, 16 April 2009 (UTC)

Forestville and Frenchs Forest

Thanks for adding the citation to the Forestville page. Any chance you could make those two pages agree on which peron names French or Ffrench did what? They even seem to be citing the same source but end up with different names. Thanks. 59.167.42.156 (talk) 15:03, 17 April 2009 (UTC)Dave

Thanks! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 59.167.42.156 (talk) 13:07, 20 April 2009 (UTC)

Re: Campbelltown photos

Thanks for your comments. It was a bit of a rushed trip trying to fit all the suburbs in so a couple of photos are a bit ordinary. But hopefully it'll improve those articles a bit. Cheers Crico (talk) 20:46, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

WikiBirthday (a day late)

I saw from here that it's been exactly three years since you joined the project. Happy WikiBirthday! Keep up the good work, rʨanaɢ ^talk/_contribs 21:28, 18 May 2009 (UTC)

And a happy Wiki-birthday from me too! – Quadell ^(talk) 22:34, 19 May 2009 (UTC)

Punchbowl, New South Wales

I have removed the protection template, that does not protect the page. The page is the subject of an abusefilter, so protection is not needed (the filter was off since the editor was gone for quite some time, apparently it just needs to be there). Hope this helps/explains. --Dirk Beetstra ^{T C} 10:46, 21 May 2009 (UTC)

Annandale

just looking at the Annandale page, I was glad you reverted what that dill Poorphoto etc did. What a dill.

Did you see the article in today's telegraph about Highroyd being restored? Fantastic job. thought I might do an article on it. Apparently The Abbey's owners are auctioning their old gear off this weekend. Like a museum. Was on TV the other day.

Happy third birthday.

Sardaka (talk) 10:17, 24 May 2009 (UTC)

Harry's Practice

Thank you for creating the Harry's Practice article. --ConspiraFear (talk) 12:55, 25 May 2009 (UTC)

Hunter Baillie Church

Would you be terribly upset if I replaced the old shot of the Hunter Baillie church? It's pretty black with shadows. I was up there this arvo and was lucky to get some decent light on the place.

Went there to get a shot of community church, but there's not much to photograph. Surrounded with pink tarp-type stuff while being renovated. Not much to look at anyway.

Sardaka (talk) 09:48, 11 June 2009 (UTC)

Potts Point

Are you interested in supporting me with this bloke who keeps stuffing up the Potts Point article? He's still at it. I've just reverted his latest, but that may not be the end of it. He doesn't even have an account.

Sardaka (talk) 08:46, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

As if by magic. Thanks for your help.

Sardaka (talk) 12:55, 27 June 2009 (UTC)

email

I just sent you an email on the above subject, but it looks like things might be getting urgent, if a certain person is talking about going through the other articles. Might be time for admin intervention.

Sardaka (talk) 09:56, 10 July 2009 (UTC)

Avalon Beach

I noticed that the Avalon Beach article yesterday was lacking in information on skating, koalas, early names and although the bay watch saga was mentioned the continued saga with regard to use of the surfclub and recent politics was not mentioned. Mum and I edited the article as she grew up in Avalon and we are down here on a skating holiday. We uploaded some great photos of the surf and the skating - can you put htem back? Happy for you to edit sections but our references have disappeared (we were working in the local library) at the time. Cheers. D.Mullins —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caringbout (talk • contribs) 22:52, 17 July 2009 (UTC) \\

Sorry, don't know how my avalon question got in mosman but still stands. i have written it into a northern beaches teen website i've made instead. cheers. d.mullins —Preceding unsigned comment added by J Bar (talk) 22:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC) \\

No worries. That's a more appropriate place for it. J Bar (talk) 22:14, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Millers Point

Hi. The image that you place in the history section for that article appears as below. It may appear on the left hand side further up in the history section for Internet explorer uses but for those with mozilla firefox will see it as it appear below. Quite a few people are using mozilla so we might need to find another spot for the photo. Cheers . Adam (talk) 01:53, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

File:Milsons piont example.jpg

• The Mosman article looks fine. I think it has something to do with the info box on the right pushing the image on left down the page. I have seen this problem before on other pages but it only seems to happen on Firefox. Adam (talk) 02:19, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Hey. We used about 7 or 8 books from the library to put together the Avalon beach article which you have viewed as vandalism. I was really disappointed because mum and i spent the day doing it. However, I have to put together a web page for computer studies and have used the avalon beach stuff i wrote but i didn't have all of the correct references. do you have them? It'd be a hassle to gather them again. cheers. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Caringbout (talk • contribs) 10:45, 29 July 2009 (UTC)

Annandale

I suggest that if you want to include a picture of a gate in this article then you should consider removing some of the other photos that are cluttering up the article. We cannot have pictures of everything that is in the article. This article is beyond a joke and it just keeps on getting worse. An article of this size only needs about four or five pictures. PoorPhotoremovalist (talk) 01:45, 11 August 2009 (UTC)

I have just added one of you images here [4]. Hopefully we get some feed back. This isn't one of the bad ones but I may consider nominating some more. I was going to post it for feature picture candidates but I didn't want to waist there time even though that is the best place to get feed back. PoorPhotoremovalist (talk) 02:53, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I doubt that there will be a consensus unless more editors join in the discussion. Because this article has a very low traffic statistic I doubt than anyone will be bothered to join in. Also you do not have the right to revert to a revision of you preference and then state that I need to gain consensus to change your version. Instead of reverting all your edits I tried to include some of yours and some of mine. If you continue with you blind reverts and add rubbish to the article I will have to either report you or fight you. Just because you edit the Sydney suburban articles doesn't mean that you have ownership over these articles.

Also as I have stated before, just because an a suburb has many historical buildings doesn't mean that we need pictures of all of them. PoorPhotoremovalist (talk) 22:10, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

My objective is to improve Sydney suburb artiles, not to get into edit wars or 'fight' other editors. I think your comments in edit summaries, talk pages, infoboxes and your own user page have been inflammatory and destructive. From what I have seen, you have not made any positive contributions to any Sydney suburb articles but maybe you can show me some of your positive editorial contributions to articles? I have only seen you delete photos and existing information. J Bar (talk) 23:14, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

I have left a message for you on my talk page. PoorPhotoremovalist (talk) 02:46, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

Chovain

I left a message with Chovain, but apparently he's busy so it might take time.

Sardaka (talk) 12:23, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

I would like to state that the above editor is basically seeking favour in an edit war. I would also like to state that I am willing to compromise and negotiate but it seems that the two editors involved want everything there way and are trying to seek favour in an edit war. The below comments are in response to comments made on my talk page PoorPhotoremovalist (talk) 23:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

No this is not the case. The article has to many images, this is not a mass deletion but a minor clean up. This article contains a total of 13 images, isn't that enough for you. I am discussing this and trying to reason with you but my comments are falling on deaf ears because you are the author of these images and you are biased. You should also take into consideration the fact that Wikipedia is not an image gallery. How many times do I need to repeat, just because a suburb or street has many historical buildings doesn't mean that we need to have a picture of every single house in that street. I know that I may have edit warred with the Annandale article a bit but now it seems as though we may have come to an agreement with the current status of the article and I am willing to leave it as is until the proposed commons link is instilled PoorPhotoremovalist (talk) 23:35, 14 August 2009 (UTC)

J st group

Why don't you try to write an article about the Johnston st group. I found a website that provides information on every house on that block. Instead of having an article for the Abbey you could merge this into an article about the J st group and have a section for each house and have as many pictures as you want. I would be inclined to add some black and white photos though. You should give it a try. P.o.o.r.P.h.o.t.o.r.e.m.o.v.i.l.s.t. (talk) 02:10, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

That's a great idea. If I had the time I would do it. At the moment I'm flat out trying to revert vandalism on existing articles. Just had a heap of reverts and rewrites to do on all the Eastern Suburbs articles after one editor decided to add something on the Sydney Roosters to every suburb that is not exactly relevant to each suburb. You may have noticed from a few reverts you have done yourself that it's a constant battle against vandals here.

Here's an idea. Why don't you write the article on Johnston Street, Annandale, Sydney? That way, you can show that you are trying to do something positive for wikipedia. It might also help you appreciate the hard work that is required to put together these articles. You could use the excellent article on Appian Way, Burwood, Sydney as a guide. J Bar (talk) 02:40, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

Gordon

Got some shops at Gordon today. Do you mind if I replace the info box shot, which isn't very exciting? Got an answer from Steve, but he didn't seem to be interested in following up on 206. Agamemnone (talk) 11:20, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

No worries. I don't have a problem with editors replacing photos with better quality shots. I have no problem with photos being deleted from articles either, as long as editors ensure that the photos appear in the wikimedia commons link. J Bar (talk) 23:34, 26 August 2009 (UTC)

Greystanes, New South Wales

Why do you keep removing my information off greystanes, nsw???? the history and culture section is incorrect. You have edited this information I have put up and have not taken the time to read the resource...STOP putting false information on this page cause that is counted as vandalism! I have put the new info up ONCE AGAIN So please review it but dont change the info...i have taken some irrelevant points out but it is 99.9% accurate and true. Eg. Your change on Frank Cefai, The maltese houshold brands, the festa and the removal of Joe Spiteri is a joke! My information is 100% accurate and relevant...You have helped this page a lot but please stop removing and or changing important and correct information...please advise me if i need to contact someone further about this problem. Also, I have been collecting information on a few topics to update wikipedia...i put a lot of time into this to make wiki up to date...and then u remove relevant info? i have now updated greystanes, nsw with new info and left out some small bits...but it is now 100% accurate. please accept it! (Comments added by User:122.107.38.249(User talk))

Because they are not relevant to the article.J Bar (talk) 05:20, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Article is now up to date...There were a few errors made by yourself which have now been fixed and the exclusion of the Joseph Spiteri is understandable...Glad to see this suburb has its full history on a great website!!! Cheers Mate! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.107.38.249 (talk) 06:10, 15 September 2009 (UTC)

Liverpool

Uh, why did that info from Liverpool all get deleted?--Supun47 (talk) 10:32, 20 September 2009 (UTC)

I didnt want to put spam in the article. All I tried to do was to say that Liverpool has had a high vote for the labor party in recent years. I think thats of notability to someone who wants to find out about Liverpool. It also can be fully cited as well. I think a sentence should be added into the politics part, saying that Liverpool does tend to vote in high numbers for labor. --Supun47 (talk) 10:29, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

There were 3 booths in Liverpool at the 07 election. Liverpool west public, Liverpool health service and Liverpool public school which is the biggest booth. At Liverpool West public it was 68.63% to Labor, Liverpool health service was 74.15% and Liverpool public was 71.35%.[1]

So all three booths in the Liverpool suburb had very similar numbers. However if you want the exact number of votes when counting those 3 booths, which would give the number of votes in Liverpool as a whole, it is 2792 Labor and 1147 Liberal. That equals 70.88% to Labor, two party preferred--Supun47 (talk) 06:56, 25 September 2009 (UTC)

Liverpool is a very large suburb and there should be a sentence on how Liverpool voted. Its of notability to many people who have an interest in how place votes. and really, if there is a section on politics, its obvious that there should be at least one sentence stating how that place voted. A sentence like In the 2007 election, Labor candidate Greg Holland won over 70% of the total vote in Liverpool. Its a fact, can be fully cited and is of notability.--Supun47 (talk) 02:12, 27 September 2009 (UTC)

Roseberry

Hello. I am just wondering why you decided to delete that information from the article after all this time. Why didn't you delete it when it was first added by Sardaka. Surely you would have seen it then. Did you wait for him to retire or was it because I tried to copy edit that section. P.o.o.r.P.h.o.t.o.r.e.m.o.v.i.l.s.t. (talk) 02:20, 24 September 2009 (UTC)

Crop and rotate

I was just having a look through some of the Sydney suburban articles and noticed (not for the first time) that a lot of your images need to be cropped and rotated. Do you know how to crop and rotate before uploading. If not I may go through some of these images and rotate and crop them before uploading once again. P.o.o.r.P.h.o.t.o.r.e.m.o.v.i.l.s.t. (talk) 02:31, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

Below is one of many offending photos. I would like to refer to this as the leaning tower of Strathfield. Have you not got Microsoft office picture manager. P.o.o.r.P.h.o.t.o.r.e.m.o.v.i.l.s.t. (talk) 22:05, 30 September 2009 (UTC)

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  The leaning tower of Strathfield, one of many offending photos
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  Art Deco shops and flats
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  North Bondi Surf Life Saving Club
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  North Bondi RSL
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  Sewerage ventilation shaft situated in Bondi Golf Course

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