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As you know, the license is ''not'' beyond reasonable doubt.
As you know, the license is ''not'' beyond reasonable doubt.
Now, while I would be delighted to see your image at the Commons remain as the only one, and be done with this mess, what happens if Commons deletes it? You yourself just deleted two images in violation of F8; other admins have likewise failed to apply the speedy deletion criteria correctly--even when they are as plain and explicit and easy to apply as F8. [[User:Tb|Tb]] ([[User talk:Tb|talk]]) 07:33, 12 December 2009 (UTC)
Now, while I would be delighted to see your image at the Commons remain as the only one, and be done with this mess, what happens if Commons deletes it? You yourself just deleted two images in violation of F8; other admins have likewise failed to apply the speedy deletion criteria correctly--even when they are as plain and explicit and easy to apply as F8. [[User:Tb|Tb]] ([[User talk:Tb|talk]]) 07:33, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

I should say as well that I'm pleased with the copy of the shield and flag which you created, which are attractive and functional, and if they stay, will be excellent. I am worried that in a year they'll get deleted from Commons, and we'll all be back here again. [[User:Tb|Tb]] ([[User talk:Tb|talk]]) 07:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)

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Want something to do? Your goal, if you choose to accept, is to copyedit Flag of Singapore. You have no limit on the number of tags and place them in the article as you see fit. Up to the task? If so, have at it my friends. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:02, 25 December 2008 (UTC)[reply]


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Translation

There is the first one, the second one will come soon

The current flag of VN's description (http://vbqppl.moj.gov.vn/law/vi/1951_to_1960/1955/195511/195511300001)

QUỐC KỲ
  • Hình cờ và mầu sắc:

Cờ hình chữ nhất, nền mầu đỏ tươi, giữa có hình sao vàng năm cánh mầu vàng tươi.

Trung tâm của sao đặt đúng trung tâm của cờ, một cánh sao quay thẳng lên phía trên.

  • Kích thước:

Chiều rộng của cờ bằng 2 phần 3 chiều dài.

Từ trung tâm A của sao đến đầu một cánh B của sao gần bằng 1 phần 5 chiều dài của cờ.

Translation:

National Flag
  • Figure and color:

[The flag's] shape is rectangle, base color is bright red, and there is a bright yellow pentagram in the center.

The center of the star is placed right in the center of the flag, and one of the angles of the pentagram face the upside [of the flag].

  • Size:

Proportion of height and width [of the flag] is 2 to 3

The distance between a angle and the center of the pentagram is near one-fifth of the flag's width.

Sorry this is the first time I translate a government document, therefore the translation process is a bit slow.--AM (talk) 16:59, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Cám ơn cô. The reason why I ask is that I draw flags (a lot of them in fact) and I have been trying to obtain official laws and papers on how to draw flags. Until a few days ago, I had no idea Vietnam had these documents online. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:02, 3 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Flag of North Vietnam (http://vbqppl.moj.gov.vn/law/vi/1945_to_1950/1945/194509/194509050003)

*Kích thước:
    • Nền cờ: bề dài = a,

bề ngang = 2/3a

    • Sao:

Từ trung tâm đến hết I góc lồi = 1/5a

Từ trung tâm đến I góc lõm = 1/10a

(Có hình vẽ - Xem bản gốc)

  • Mầu sắc: Nền mầu đỏ tươi

Sao vàng tươi

  • Cách đặt sao:

Ngôi sao vàng có 5 góc lồi và 5 góc lõm, trung tâm sao đặt đúng trung tâm nền cờ, một góc lồi quay thẳng lên phía trên theo đường AB./.

Translation:

  • Size:
    • Flag:

Height=A

Width=23A

(there is a picture, look for the original version)*

    • Star:

The distance between the center and a vertex is valued 15A

The distance between the center and a intersections of the edges is valued 110A

  • Color:

The color of the flag is bright red

The color of the star is bright yellow

  • How to place the star:

The yellow star has five vertices and five intersections of the edges, its center is placed right in the center of the flag. One of vertices faces the upside of the flag "as the AB line".*

* I don't know what these "AB line" and "there is a picture, look for the original version" meant. I think that there was a sample flag attached with the original document but I couldn't found it in the online document. These translations is to be faithful in translating the Vietnamese text, so don't mind them.

I also did some revisions on the 1st translation, please take a look.--AM (talk) 11:23, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Simplicity of design

Do you have laws, case law, or commonly observed off-wiki conventions on what constitutes a "simple" design vs. a copyrightable "not so simple" one? Also, it would be helpful although probably not necessary to provide one example of the Episcopal shield and flag being published prior to 1977 without a copyright notice. Are you aware of any specific examples? I think these would be helpful because unlike the term "simple," there isn't much room for interpretation if it was widely published without the necessary ©/(c)/copyright wording. I ask because at first glance a design with at least 4 unique elements, at least 12 total elements, and where 1 of those unique elements is itself consists of 3 unique and 10 total elements is approaching if not into the realm of "not simple." davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 07:06, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I have caselaw I can email you, but I am also going off old DR's that explained that blazons cannot be copyrighted. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:02, 5 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Email will be fine. If it's an attachment e.g. PDF, drop me a line and I'll reply so you can mail me the attachment. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 05:31, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is PDF. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:16, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not going away

Re: Not going away: I hope you are in good health and manage to avoid the drunk drivers this holiday season. I figured you wouldn't voluntarily disappear, I'm just saying we should nail down the copyright issues surrounding the Episcopal Church flag and shield in case the unexpected happens. davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 05:30, 6 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Work has been keeping me busy, but I have it set up where changes are emailed to me. Send me an email on Wikipedia and I can forward you case law about pd-simple. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:15, 7 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]


Delinking dates

I made those settings available. Wikipedia:AutoWikiBrowser/Settings Rich Farmbrough, 04:39, 8 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Cut and paste (from the edit window) into a text file called dates.xml, then load that as settings. Rich Farmbrough, 05:02, 8 December 2009 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks for the work on GA nomination. Added/removed some data. How now? Endrick Shellycoat 01:55, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Not yet. I will make some edits and let you know when it will be ready. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:59, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the pointers re. refs. I'll take to my sandbox and try to get these up to scratch ASAP. Endrick Shellycoat 09:48, 9 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Please could you visit Talk:Flag_of_Scotland/GA1#GA_Review when you have the opportunity. Many thanks. Endrick Shellycoat 13:24, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
It is stable, I can tell you that for sure. However, I cannot seem to get the template to use the green check mark. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:16, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Just tried it, replace the ? with a y or n : Cheers. Endrick Shellycoat 20:39, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:59, 10 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

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4 files you deleted are NOT on the commons, not by those names anyways

These files are NOT all on the commons. Please put them there or restore them.

  1. 07:02, 12 December 2009 Zscout370 (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Episcopal Church Logo.gif" ‎ (F8: Media file available on Commons: File:Shield of the US Episcopal Church.svg)
  2. 07:02, 12 December 2009 Zscout370 (talk | contribs) deleted "File:TEC arms.PNG" ‎ (F8: Media file available on Commons: File:Shield of the US Episcopal Church.svg)
  3. 07:01, 12 December 2009 Zscout370 (talk | contribs) deleted "File:TEC flag.PNG" ‎ (F8: Media file available on Commons: File:Flag of the US Episcopal Church.svg)
  4. 07:01, 12 December 2009 Zscout370 (talk | contribs) deleted "File:Episcopal Arms.svg" ‎ (F8: Media file available on Commons: File:Shield of the US Episcopal Church.svg)

davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 07:06, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Redundancy. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:08, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Were all of them unused? If not, would you do the honors of fixing up any red-linked images to point to similar commons images? Also, the talk pages on some of them may have important information related to the long discussion at Wikipedia:Non-free_content_review#File:TEC_arms.PNG. Please consider restoring the files until the discussion closes OR pasting those talk pages and their histories to the end of that discussion? davidwr/(talk)/(contribs)/(e-mail) 07:18, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

improper deletions

In an attempt to move things to closure--which I do appreciate--you deleted two images identifying them with F8 as the reason. But as it happens, your own deletions were contrary to what F8 explicitly says. Note carefully:

  • The Commons version is in the same file format and is of the same or higher quality/resolution.

One of the images you deleted was a gif, but the Commons image is an svg.

  • The image's license and source status is beyond reasonable doubt, and the license is undoubtedly accepted at Commons.

As you know, the license is not beyond reasonable doubt. Now, while I would be delighted to see your image at the Commons remain as the only one, and be done with this mess, what happens if Commons deletes it? You yourself just deleted two images in violation of F8; other admins have likewise failed to apply the speedy deletion criteria correctly--even when they are as plain and explicit and easy to apply as F8. Tb (talk) 07:33, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

I should say as well that I'm pleased with the copy of the shield and flag which you created, which are attractive and functional, and if they stay, will be excellent. I am worried that in a year they'll get deleted from Commons, and we'll all be back here again. Tb (talk) 07:44, 12 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]