User talk:Zscout370/Archive 5

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Jimbo Che Images

I noticed you removed one of these from my user page. That's OK (I understand the ramifications of having fair-use images on a user page, thus denigrating our fair use claims), but what's the history behind the deletion of these images? Wouldn't a parody be considered fair use on the user page? And is the Che image copyrighted (it seems to be all over the place these days). Thanks for your help. Cheers, Bratschetalk | Esperanza 23:49, 16 January 2006 (UTC)

They were fair use images, and claim as so by the uploader himself. While yes they can be considered a parody, they are still under the fair use doctrine, which does not allow it to be on userpages. And, since the images were only used to be decorated in the userspace, they had to be deleted. Sorry, but it had to be done. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:58, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Good job for being brave enough to delete these, I wasn't (-: JYolkowski // talk 21:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I also do not know what Jimbo thinks about the deletions either, so if someone wants to ask, they can go ahead. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:00, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I've no objection to the deletions (as obviously within policy), but I wonder if we should talk to the author about trying for a better license. The image was one part creative commons material and one part liberally licensed Che. I would think that we should be able to put two freely licensed items together and come up with something that is also free. Dragons flight 00:06, 18 January 2006 (UTC)
I went by what the original uploader had, which was fair use. While I know Jimbo's photo was a free license, but I am not sure what Che photo brian used. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:08, 18 January 2006 (UTC)


Hey Zach. This is your bot, right? Being that it just performed several image replacements in one of my watched articles, I'm thinking that .svg images are superior to .png files, correct? I'm asking because, if that's the case, I'll try to privilege this format when/if uploading this kind of image in the future.
Plus I wish I had a bot of my own. But that's just envy talking, I don't even have a use for one right now ;) Redux 05:52, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

Yes, Zbot370 belongs to me. Yes, SVG is prefered to PNG images, mostly for flags now. As for the bot, what I do is run it using the Python language, which I got major help on today. I will do more bot changes in the future. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 06:28, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I don't know what the issue is between you and Calton, but please don't keep reverting his user page. Discuss the issue with him instead: he's a very reasonable person. SlimVirgin (talk) 06:33, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
It's called image replacement. PNG is not a superior format, SVG is. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 06:41, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
I pinged Calton's talk page. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 06:45, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Battle is over. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 07:06, 17 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks. SlimVirgin (talk) 07:21, 17 January 2006 (UTC)

A Quick Thank You

Your bot just saved me about 5 minutes of work. Thank you for allowing me to be somewhat lazy with my updating. - RPharazon 00:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome. It's not a problem really; I been wanting to use a bot like this for months. If you have other flag changes that need to be done, just let me know. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Who is the Koran vandal?

Any ideas? I only noticed him because I happened to catch the user ID being created and then saw it pop up on my watchlist editing Fred's user page 2 mins later. --GraemeL (talk) 00:53, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

The reason why I gave the person that name is that they spammed the entire Koran on various talk pages. As for what is going on, I have no idea. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:54, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Your bot

I was wondering if your bot could also upload images? One of my long-term projects is to have an article on each and every metro station in Mexico City. Each station has a logo and there are ~70 logos missing, which would be a pain to upload manually. Thanks. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 04:09, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 04:58, 19 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi, I'm looking for someone that can write bots to find a bot that could tag all the untagged images as no licence and notify the uploader, there were 38000+ images in the last database dump, and only 10% have been tagged in a month. Do you know of any bots around that could do the job?--nixie 04:23, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

I will ask around. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 04:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks.--nixie 05:01, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Bandera Monumental

Hello Zach, I finally went to the Bishopric Hill to take some pics of the bandera monumental in order to use them in the article of the Flag of Mexico. Let me know what you think. I only uploaded 2 of the 40 I took. I will buy a better digital cam (semi pro) so I would be able to provide nicer pics soon. See ya.

Mirador Obispado.jpg Mirador Obispado 2.jpg

AlexCovarrubias 13:14, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Nice photos, thanks for taking them. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 14:13, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Flag of Mexico

Well... I guess you're happy now. :) Congratulations! Another FA under your belt. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 18:12, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Ditto. Congratulations! -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 18:27, 19 January 2006 (UTC)
Gracias. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 00:00, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

Okay, I've changed the pic, but how the frak can a national flag be copyrighted? --Calton | Talk 05:32, 20 January 2006 (UTC)

All he said to me that is that he does not want a vector version of the flag, he will allow a PNG version to be used. I am just complying with the author's wish. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 05:34, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Zach I really didn't care about what type of file the image was, all I cared about was the flag being accurate. I really liked your last SVG version because it looked almost the same as the PNG. I don't know why you said "you may now rejoice". Well now I'm wondering if you will use your bot to change the SVG to PNG extension. AlexCovarrubias 22:00, 20 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, the reason I said that you may rejoice since you really, really liked the PNG flag better than many of the SVG drawings I had done in the past. As for the bot: after I got the word from Juan Manuel about the SVG image, I had the bot replacing images about 15 minutes later. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 23:53, 20 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi Z'. I noticed you had already talked to Alphabetagamnma (talk · contribs) about copyright. He has uploaded more images today with tags claiming that the copyright holder has released the images for any use. I gave him a final warning on his talk page, but I'm not really sure what to do about the images. I tagged the ones he gave a source of Google as no source, but should I go through and delete them all, or wait for his response? --GraemeL (talk) 19:03, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

Delete the pics, since many of his past copyvios had the same license. Zach (Smack Back) Fair use policy 23:59, 19 January 2006 (UTC)

'User' Templates with fair use tagged images in them

Thanks. --Gmaxwell 01:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

With flags and screenshots removed: --Gmaxwell 02:26, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Template:User OregonState

Hi there. I noticed you replaced the picture in Template:User OregonState with the letters OSU. I thought it looked much better with the image there, and the image tag description looks as if it is fine to use for this. "It is believed that the use of low-resolution images of logos to illustrate the corporation, sports team, or organization in question on the English-language Wikipedia, hosted on servers in the United States by the non-profit Wikimedia Foundation, qualifies as fair use under United States copyright law.". This says to me that use of this image here is fine. Care to explain why you removed it? VegaDark 02:55, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

Well, from what I have been told, fair use images are allowed in articles, but they cannot be used in userboxes. This is stated at WP:FUC, our policy page about fair use images. I removed the image because it was licensed under fair use and that is why I replaced it with text. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 03:03, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Upon reading that, I cannot fault you for following Wikipedia policy. I can, however, fault the policy. From what I can tell, sports team logos do qualify as fair use even on a userpage, and to completely try and avoid images tagged as fair use being used on userpages just because in "many" cases they are not allowed in that fasion seems to broad of a policy. I will have to look in to this further. VegaDark 03:20, 22 January 2006 (UTC)
Well, from what I can tell you, fair use is a very grey area. And The Powers That Be decided to make the fair use pictures a "not so good" idea, and I do not know why they want to do this. Maybe because they do not see fair use images as being "fair use" on userpages, some see it as causing server problems, some see it as not nessrecary. While the logos are fine for their use on Wikipedia, but just not on user pages. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 03:25, 22 January 2006 (UTC)

You've been warned

Image_talk:Dylan_jams_with_campbell.jpg#I_repeat JDG 04:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

white background for images (again)

I still see a blue background at Image:Republic of China National Emblem.svg and Image:White sun, blue sky.svg.--Jiang 09:43, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Do you use Internet Explorer? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:24, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

yes--Jiang 01:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Then that is the major problem. IE cannot handle SVG files and their backgrounds. I use Firefox, so I do not see any of these problems. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 03:07, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

You were able to fix Image:Chinese Taipei Olympic Flag.svg. can't you do the same for these images?--Jiang 04:59, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

In the first image, I forgot to put in a white background, which was needed on the flag. But, the other ones, they are circles that are not required to have backgrounds. I can easily fix them, but I am going to ask around first. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 05:09, 25 January 2006 (UTC)

Re: Australian Customs Flag

Thanks for the permission to use your image, Zach. I think I might try to add "Customs" to the national flag svg, thought - it shouldn't be too difficult. JPD (talk) 10:19, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

It looks good. :) User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:31, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

NATO image licensing

I noticed this image uploaded from NATO's website: Image:SergeiLavrov.jpg The licensing for NATO's images is fairly specific, and I think incompatible with Wikipedia, but I wanted to get a second opinion before deleting. The conditions are at the bottom of this page. The last condition - that images can only be used in objective and balanced documentaries/articles - seems like the killer. What do you think? FreplySpang (talk) 17:49, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

I highly think that the image is non-commercial, since it says "No material is to be used for advertising purposes whatsoever," and many WP mirrors contain Google ads. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 17:56, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks for the quick response! FreplySpang (talk) 17:58, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Your welcome. I was not going to see this until later, but my professor was a no show, so I left class. :P User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 18:00, 24 January 2006 (UTC)
Heh. Well, I zapped it. FreplySpang (talk) 18:17, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

Scouting Barnstarn

Did you see this proposal? Scouting Barnstarn --evrik 20:02, 24 January 2006 (UTC)

  • Could you go back and vote one more time. We're trying to build a consensus on a star. Thanks! evrik 18:22, 2 February 2006 (UTC)

Scouting Barnstar - Where to put it?

I believe that the award that was created for the Scouting Barnstar should be a topical award. Scouting is a world-wide movement that has served youth in many countries for more than 100 years and represents the youth of the world at the United Nations.

It has been suggested that the award be given as a PUA. The first line on the PUA page reads, "This page provides a collection of awards created by individual Wikipedians." The Scouting Barnstar was created by the WikiProject Scouting.

Currently, the is a discussion going on at Wikipedia_talk:Barnstars#Removed_the_scouting_barnstar. Please comment there if you are interested.evrik

Thank you for voting!

Hello there! I wanted to thank you for taking the time to vote on my arbitration commitee nomination. Although it was not successful, I appreciate the time you spent to read my statement and questions and for then voting, either positively or negativly. Again, thank you! Páll (Die pienk olifant) 22:29, 25 January 2006 (UTC)


Hi Zach. I'm not sure mb1000 is ready for adminship yet. Only recently they inadvertently reverted an article because they didn't like the changes one author had made, so he reverted it back to the last version he had edited even though that meant removing the changes made by more than one author. I'm not sure why they did this. It's either lethargy in not wanting to cut and paste the revelant section of the article as was required, or they had an issue with the edits from all authors, but chose to only mention one example in their edit comments. Anyway, just thought I'd let you know since you were saying you supported their application. --Rebroad 00:41, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 01:22, 26 January 2006 (UTC)

American Patriot Videos

Here they are, converted into ogg theora, free as in beer and speech :)

Jmax- 17:03, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Yay! I owe you one. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 23:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Removal from the Order of Canada page


I've added a section on Removal from the Order of Canada about controversial appointments to the Order. Thus far I have only listed Ben Johnson. I think its appropriate to call his appointment controverisal considering he was being awarded for his championship sprinting, only to shortly afterwards tarnish Canada's olympic record by testing positive for illegal doping and later to be banned for life. Dowew 23:36, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for adding it. I was suprised he was appointed too. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 23:57, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

"Blue Sky with a White Sun" emblem on the Chinese Taipei flag

Hey Zach, I have seen your Chinese Taipei Olympic Flag image, but I think the "Blue Sky with a White Sun" emblem on the flag looks a little odd - the R.O.C. National Emblem is used in the Chinese Taipei Olympic flag, so the size of the sun should according the ROC flag and emblem law. Anyway, great job. :) --Kibinsky 17:21, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

I drew it according to FOTW rules, but I can change it soon. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 23:59, 27 January 2006 (UTC)

My request for adminship is underway!

Please support my nomination! Thank-you. --Mb1000 01:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Quick image favor

Consider this calling in the favor you owe me for some of those image replacements I did for you... Image:Dmitry Pozharsky marker, Suzdal, Russia -- 10 January 2006.jpg needs cropping and rotation, but I don't have the tools to do it (not enough hard disk space to install all the required dependencies for the GIMP or Gnu Paint.) I'd greatly appreciate it if you could. --maru (talk) contribs 18:53, 29 January 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, I can do it. --User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 18:57, 29 January 2006 (UTC)


This is a wireimage photo. User:JJstroker claims that the photo is copyrighted and "press release". He added it to Christine Lahti. However, wireimage photos are not allowed on Wikipedia and may be copyio. He's not quite aware of this. I've listed the photo at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 January 28. Please be sure that it should be deleted immediately. adnghiem501 (talk) 23:14, 30 January 2006 (UTC)

Deleted. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 00:01, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Order of Canada


I found this page from veterans affairs which explains that Medal of Courage thing a bit better.

Also, I added a couple more people to the controversial appointments section of the Removal from the Order of Canada page, first being Conrad Black (can you tell yet I dont like him :) and a Doctor who was just featured on a CBC expose who im sure with all this attention regarding serious fraud will be removed in the not too distant future. Dowew 04:22, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

I took a look at the article; I suggest turning the article about the doctor into a blue link. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 04:41, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

Site promoting the download of copyrighted material

Hello Zach! I hope you can help me with this one. There is this site that promotes the download of a bunch of copyrighted material (MP3, videos, pictures) of the italian singer Laura Pausini . The webmaster is even offering for download her most recently released DVD. This is clearly a copyright violation.

Since I noticed this I erased the link from the article Laura Pausini because of the sentence that appears below the textbox every time you edit something: Content must not violate any copyright and must be verifiable. You agree to license your contributions under the GFDL.

I want to know if there is another rule or something that I can apply to this kind of site. The other guy says that Wikipedia is "Ok with this" so I really wanna know if he's right, because I think he is not. You should take a look at the discussion page of the article. I have a website dedicated to this italian singer (see site) and I'm in contact with the official fanclub manager once in a while. I have reported cases like this in the past and they have managed the situation. That's why I'm pretty sure what that guys is doing is illegal. I have reported this site to them yesterday.

But I guess my main question is, Is it Ok to have links to websites that violates copyright laws so clearly? Thanks for your answer in advance, I will really appreciate your help.

Yours, AlexCovarrubias 14:14, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

From taking look at the article itself, the gentleman who you are having issues with has a key interest in Ms. Pausini, since much of the text and the only image (which I think should be rid of their water-marks) is uploaded by him. However, as for the website, my suggestion is to have it in the invisible text for now, since I am heading off to school soon and I have not had my morning Pepsi yet. But, if there is one other obversation I can make, this gentleman identifies himself as Greek by the tld of his website, but looks like he gets most of his material from Brazil (.br). While that is nothing wrong, I just wanted to say that. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:44, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Wait, I think he is also trying to link-spam, so I will send this to WP:AN/I as soon as I can. As for the links he posted: all of those programs, while they help trade copyrighted stuff, we have to have articles on each program, and where to get each program. I, myself, have been guilty of adding links to a National Anthems forum that I participate in to post recordings of each national anthem (done this only for the US and MX anthem). Just calm down and we will get more people looking this over. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:47, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Thanks Zach for the super fast answer! :D Well yes I also thought that Wikipedia needed to have articles about each of those programs because it is information! but certainly that doesn't mean Wikipedia endorse the use of those programs. Since I'm a kinda new user I really don't know how to use the invisible text, I guess I will try to find how to use it. Thanks again Zach. AlexCovarrubias 15:13, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Zach I finally found the rule that forbids linking to sites that violates copyright of third parties, thanks to Rune.welsh. AlexCovarrubias 17:11, 31 January 2006 (UTC)
Good. BTW, the invisible text works like this: <!-- Hi! All Your Base Are Belong To Us --> Everything from Hi until Us will be hidden from viewing the page, but viewable when you edit. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 19:20, 31 January 2006 (UTC)

My icon

Thank you for your note. (1) The name suggests that the image is my "icon" thereby I want to be able to change the image whenever I want in the future. (2) The image, my creation, is unidentical from the image you speak about, so I say it is not redundant. Its colour, in my opinion, more closely matches the official representation. To delete it now is no different from deleting a Wikipedian's photo. (3) #1 is more important to me than #2 though, so when the wiki software can handle image redirects, I promise you I shall follow your suggestion. --Perfecto 14:31, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

Alright..what source did you use in finding the correct colors of the national flag? If you think that your colors are right, then we can fix the Canadian flag image that we have now. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:27, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

See Image talk:Flag of Canada.svg for the previous debate. --Perfecto 21:58, 4 February 2006 (UTC)

I saw that the talk page said to use CMYK 0/100/100/0 for the color red. I think yours might be darker than what the government said. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 22:00, 4 February 2006 (UTC)


Just wanted to thank you for apologizing to JDG, it was very mature of you and hopefully will go a long way to proving to him that people here want him to stay with the project as long as he's willing to follow the rules. JtkieferT | C | @ ---- 07:41, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

I could, and should, probably do more, but if JDG wishes to leave Wikipedia, then he should be able to do so. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 07:45, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

What type of ribbon will this one take?)

Just thinking the next barnstar you get should be a unique one:


Take care, (what type of ribbon will this one take?) εγκυκλοπαίδεια* 22:26, 5 February 2006 (UTC)

Probably just strips of red, silver and blue, but this is something I cannot legally post due to WP:FUC. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 01:04, 6 February 2006 (UTC)

Request for help

Could you please help me with the use of Template:Link FA? German Wikipedia discussed this gimmick too and a majority was in in favour of it. But where do I find the CSS-class FA to insert? -- de:Benutzer:Triebtäter

I tried to send the code at your talk page, but the code is not reading right. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 19:47, 7 February 2006 (UTC)
Wow that was quick and very helpful. I asked another user to add this to our monobook.js and monobook.css. Thank you very much for your support. -- de:Benutzer:Triebtäter
It's not a problem. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:04, 7 February 2006 (UTC)

Persian flag in 1900

Hey Zach, I'm looking for a historically accurate flag for use in the Iran at the 1900 Summer Olympics article. I haven't found one on Wikipedia or Commons, but I have been pointed to FotW. Do know if there's a free-image flag matching that description somewhere? Thanks. -- Jonel | Speak 21:35, 9 February 2006 (UTC)

There is not a free version that I know of, but I will try and give it a go and draw it. The hardest part will be to draw the lion and sun. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:38, 10 February 2006 (UTC)

Template:Link FA

Hi Zach!

Could I get you to update the interwiki for Template:Link FA? TIA. --Palnatoke 07:40, 13 February 2006 (UTC)

Star Trek rank images

Hi there, I noticed that you created a few of the Star Trek rank images on Starfleet ranks and insignia. I'm looking for more opinions on Wikipedia talk:Image copyright tags#Star_Trek_rank_images, so if you'd like to comment there that would be great. Thanks.

P.S. Regarding the USSR copyright stuff, do you have a citation for the assertion that works published in the USSR before May 27, 1973 were PD in Russia on January 1, 1996? If you do, that would be great so I can change my TfD vote. Thanks again, JYolkowski // talk 02:27, 15 February 2006 (UTC)

I am still looking for the Soviet-law text, but I found no luck on Google. However, we could try to look at the current Russian law and see what it says. As for the Star Trek images, I just made them and tagged them under a license that said "I drew this image." You may say that what I and other done was "dirative work" of the Star Trek ranks, so they could be copyrighted. While they might not be copyvios persay, we need to see if any fair use justification can be used. If not, I give you permission to delete the Star Trek images that I drew. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:59, 15 February 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for the image. I've added it to Flag of Canada. Do you have any other earlier proposals? it would be nice to flesh out the article with some of the other proposals. Regards, Ground Zero | t 02:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I got the Pearson Pennant drawn up, but I need to get the Group C image created. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:53, 16 February 2006 (UTC)
Group C finished: Image:Canada flag Group C Finalist.svg. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 03:20, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Jana Gana Mana

Thanks for your message on the Indian noticeboard. Let me know what I can do. deeptrivia (talk) 13:04, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

I need to see what needs to be done with the article, but read over the comments at Talk:Jana Gana Mana. I also need to see how the other national anthem articles are written, so we need an overhaul of the article. I was also wondering if we could take a peek at Indian Copyright Law, so we can find out if anthem recordings are in the public domain. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:39, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Maltese Flag

The flag shown is "not" the Maltese flag. The George cross, on the top left of the flag is blurred, and the image on the cross is not visible and it appears it is plain.

The cross should have a sharp red border.

A correct version of the George Cross is shown in, the original image which was originally posted to Wikipedia. Maltesedog 15:47, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Alright. I am at university now, so I will try and fix up the image when I get home. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 17:08, 16 February 2006 (UTC)

Did you fix it? Actually it looks fine now I think. Congrats. Maltesedog 17:56, 26 February 2006 (UTC)

I did; I switched some colors around and I made the George's Cross medal a bit ligther. Your welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 18:07, 26 February 2006 (UTC)


Hi there! I thought yiou might have some idea on how to convert the Image:Barnstar-stone2-noback.png into a ribbon bar... Halibutt 10:50, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

My suggestion; make the first two/thirds of the ribbon grey and the last third of it green. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 17:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
  • I think we should add the ribbons onto the awards page someplace. [1] --evrik 18:22, 17 February 2006 (UTC)
    • I am surprised y'all really like the use of ribbon bars. I only made them so I can make my userpage look good, but if y'all want to use them, fine by me. As for where, I am not sure yet. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 19:41, 17 February 2006 (UTC)

ACLU Image

I see that you are the person who created the image for the Uase_ACLU template. I was hoping you could help figure out what happened to the ACLU user box template. It seems to have been deleted, but I can't find where it was discussed before deleting. Can you help? — Bill W. (Talk) (Contrib)  –  February 18, 2006, 05:53 (UTC)

I think it was speedied, since Jimbo Wales wanted to avoid having userboxes that are political. Try checking the history for Template:User ACLU. I have not got involved in userboxes in a while, since most of the issues that I wanted to be addressed have been, and most userboxes are following the things I asked for (mostly freely licensed images). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 05:59, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

Notice about barnstar

Hi, I proposed to give Barnstar of National Merit a makover in here. Deathphoenix left a note that people originally involved in creating the award should be notified. So here I am. Please voice your opinion, and happy editing! Renata 05:10, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick note. While I oppose the major overhaul that was suggested, I took some of y'all suggestions and modified the image a little bit, so it can be a bit smaller in image height. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 06:54, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I don't know where it got derailed, but all I wanted is better quality... I like the concept and everything, but the quality... It just does not look respectable. Renata 07:06, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
I think it looks pretty fine now, and with the star pattern, it shows what Wikipedians can do with the pen (in MS Paint) and does not rely on just imposing the BS image somewhere. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 07:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)
That is what I actually don't like. The pen effect. For example, Image:Upholder order.gif is based on the same principles but looks much better, IMHO. The image needs some better graphics, that's all. Hope you understand :) Renata 07:35, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Image:Jana Gana Mana.ogg

Hello Zscout370, Thanks for converting it in Audacity to get rid of malicious code warning. Will you help me to know that how we get rid of this warning? -- Shyam (T/C) 14:12, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Of course. What I did is that I saved the file you uploaded onto WP on my hard-drive, so I have a copy of the song. I opened the file in the program Audacity (free), then I saved the file as an OGG file. I did nothing special in the areas of bit-rate (5 OGG output, 192 k/bit for MP3) or the project rate (44100). I never had a problem with audacity before, but if there are other files you wish for me to get rid of this malicious code warning, let me know so I can help fix it. Thanks for uploading the sound recording. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:16, 21 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up Zach. It'll be good to see Graham's work free from being infringed. Looking at that Russian site they have some very interesting terms and conditions. They say that the images may be used on the internet, but that the licensee "may not post the Licensed Material online in a downloadable format;"! That's rather contradictory since use online means things have got to be in a downloadable format!! David Newton 15:22, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

We got emails from Vector-Images saying that we can use their images, in the PNG format, without any problems as long as V-I is listed/credited as the source. No in the SVG, unless the image is free to use (there are about 10 free vector images, which I will try to upload using Illustrator, if I can find a copy of it. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 16:48, 22 February 2006 (UTC)


I need to talk to you in chat about this dumb Eve Plumb situation. Mike H. That's hot 21:43, 22 February 2006 (UTC)

I'm at University now, but I will get on at IRC around 4ish PM Pacific Time (7 eastern). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 21:48, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
I'll be in class then. We can talk later. Mike H. That's hot 22:08, 22 February 2006 (UTC)
Ok, i'm on now, so whenever you get back, I should be there. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 00:12, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Help with svg image

Hi Zach! Since you have more experience dealing with svg images in Wikipedia I was wondering if you could tell me if this image loads properly in your browser. If it doesn't could you please give me guidance as to what I could do to fix it? Thank you! -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 02:31, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

I do not see the image, so I will try and help fix it up. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:33, 23 February 2006 (UTC)
I fixed it. The trick was to save it as "plain svg" as opposed to "inkscape svg". Now you can admire the map in all its vectorized glory. Thanks for the help! -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 14:41, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

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Deleted. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:47, 23 February 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for your voting!


Hi, thanks for your voting on my RFA. It has finished with the result 88/14/9, and I am promoted. I am really overwhelmed with the amount of support I have got. With some of you we have edited many articles as a team, with some I had bitter arguments in the past, some of you I consider to be living legends of Wikipedia and some nicks I in my ignorance never heard before. I love you all and I am really grateful to you.

If you feel I can help you or Wikipedia as a human, as an editor or with my newly acquired cleaning tools, then just ask and I will be happy to assist. If you will feel that I do not live up to your expectation and renegade on my promises, please contact me. Maybe it was not a malice but just ignorance or a short temper. Thank you very mach, once more! abakharev 07:34, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar Ribbons - FYI

Wikipedia:Barnstar_and_award_proposals/Ribbons --evrik 21:17, 24 February 2006 (UTC)

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Nuked. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 00:37, 27 February 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for pointing me to that article from the Russian-Ukrainian Legal Group. I have added it to Template talk:PD-USSR. Also, I am in a slow-going e-mail conversation on that topic with Jean-Baptiste Soufron, the Wikimedia Foundation's legal specialist in international copyright matters. Lupo 13:32, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome. I also personally think that we should also get some Russians involved, so they can read the specific text of laws and decrees, since I think that is our problem too. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:30, 27 February 2006 (UTC)

Category:Law enforcement in Belarus

We have this category for every country. Not sure why you think Belarus should be a particularly special case. -- Necrothesp 16:03, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

There are only 4 to 5 articles that are in this category; so I thought the article list is too small for this category, so I merged this with the Law category (8 still stinks, but it is getting somewhere). Also, I am in the process now of reorganizing the Belarus categories too, so not only the law enforcement one was affected, but I also switched up the Government and Politics cats too. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 18:23, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Since there is a Category:Law enforcement by country, for consistency's sake it makes sense to leave the cat as it is, which is usual policy however small the category. Then someone can look at Category:Law enforcement by country and see every country in alphabetical order. If one country is different, it makes it inconsistent and awkward. -- Necrothesp 18:40, 1 March 2006 (UTC)
Alright. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 21:00, 1 March 2006 (UTC)


Done? I corrected the links, added the link to list of rulers (are there any other related articles?) and a new emblem (Pahonia, couldn't think of a better symbol of Belarusian history). Halibutt 23:55, 1 March 2006 (UTC)

I am not sure what other articles you wish to add to the template, since most of the ones that I write deal with Lukashenko topics (the symbols, BRSM, the decorations). The Pahonia is fine; I was thinking about using it myself. Your welcome to add more if you see fit. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:32, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Singapore National Anthem

Hey, I got a reply from the National Heritage Board. They've given permission subject to the following conditions, quoting from the e-mail.

"a) If Wikipedia adopts the Creative Commons License, the condition of "Noncommerical (nc)" in respect of the National Anthem must be invoked.

b) The National Anthem must at all times be accorded the respect and dignity due to a national symbol of the Republic of Singapore.

c) Every recording or arrangement of the National Anthem must accurately reflect the complete tune and complete official lyrics of the National Anthem.

d) The National Anthem must not be incorporated into any other composition or medley.

e) The National Anthem must not be translated into another language."

They also want to be informed when the file is put up. So it's a go - just let me know and I'll pass on the info to them. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 03:08, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

Dear Khaosworks. I think we can work with this. I am going to use the version sung by Phoon Yew Tien, located at I am in the process of converting the song into an OGG file and I will let you know when the file has been uploaded. Also, if you want, I could draft a letter to whoever you wrote too if they need any clarifications or if they wondered why I have done this. Thanks again, I owe you one. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 03:24, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
One more thing: due to the above licensing things you got, could we upload an instrumental version or no? BTW, the files will be kept on EN Wikipedia for now. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 03:27, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Probably not. By the way, the CC license needs to be changed - right now it says commercial use is allowed, and does not prohibit deriviative works. --khaosworks (talkcontribs) 04:48, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Fixed. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 05:01, 2 March 2006 (UTC)


hmmm... wasn't Belarus map blank.png ok? current version (File:Belarus geostub icon.png) is too red & green, but as you know (i hope) these colors are too painful for Belarusians because they are colors of Lukashenka flag...

I'm thinking about changing back to political neutral image, just not to irritate eyes at least.. i hope it will be ok with you. --Monkbel 08:13, 2 March 2006 (UTC)

It's fine, it is no big deal if it was changed back to the blue color image. There was a similar red and green icon used in the template before, but in the JPG format, so that is why I created the red and green map. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:43, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks! --Monkbel 22:34, 2 March 2006 (UTC)
Welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 00:15, 3 March 2006 (UTC)


Netoholic conveniently ignored your comment/question, so I'm responding to let you know that he no longer has any mentors. (See Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Netoholic 2#Update.) —David Levy 20:35, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

Ok, thanks. I already said that I will not block again and I will wait and see what else ArbCom is doing. My job is not to get involved in a wheel-war, but until Neto gets the ArbCom stuff cleared out, I believe his probation lasts for 2 more months. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:50, 4 March 2006 (UTC)

User talk:

You blocked User talk: On their talk page they appear to be repentant, can you take a look for me? Thanks. --Commander Keane 10:28, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I think you might be asleep, so I have gone ahead and unblocked. They seem sincere.--Commander Keane 10:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
I blocked the IP, then I went to sleep, so it was fine that you unblocked him. Thanks for telling me. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:11, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Cooley Law School Block

I notice that you protected the Thomas M. Cooley Law School page from editing. Although this may have been a necessary move, the manner in which you have taken this action disturbs me. You provided no explantion for your block on the article's talk page. I looked on the recently blocked articles page to see if you had listed your rationale there; you had not. In short, it would by really helpful if you could provide a reason for this block and some sense of when you plan to remove this block so that good faith editors can continue to do their work. Although I agree with you that we can't have the vandalism, there were also some edits reomved right before your edit (eg textual information regarding rankings) that appeared to be a good faith, if controversial, edit, the inclusion of which was likley best left to consensus-building. Thank you. Consensusbuilder1 14:40, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

I was asked to lock the article as per a request on the #wikipedia IRC channel on the freenode network. I looked at the history of the article and I just notice a vandalism spree for days, so I rollbacked as far as I could see (late february) and locked it. What are some of the factual information that was accidentally removed? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:13, 5 March 2006 (UTC)
Scratch that, someone unlocked the page when I was sleeping. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:15, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Re:Media file

Hi Zach. I've taken a look at the file and the websites linked. The file does seems to be in the public domain: first, because the Brazilian National Anthem is in the public domain; plus, this particular version was performed by a state funded, that is public, entity, which appears to make their work available freely — it is a chorus financed by a state-owned bank, accompanied by the band of the state Military Police; the only notice of copyright I found was regarding the design and general content of the website of the BDMG (the public bank in question), but they didn't even have a TOS. That long part in Portuguese seems to be completely unnecessary though. It is linking a page of the Brazilian federal government, but the audio file originated in a page belonging to the state of Minas Gerais. I thought that maybe the federal page carried the file as well, but I couldn't find it there. Besides, that whole section is pretty much just the federal website's disclaimer: it explains the scope of the website, with a hint at the Brazilian federal legislation on copyrights, and closes saying something like even though we strive to provide only material that is in the public domain, it could happen that we accidentaly offer copyrighted material; if that happens, please contact us so that the mistake can be rectified. I'm not sure why the original uploader copied that section in — maybe at one point the federal website did carry the file, but then removed it at a later time. Does that addresses everything? Redux 16:52, 5 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, it does. Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:14, 5 March 2006 (UTC)


These sources look better than a quote from a defunct website via Flags of the World, and they should be references in the emblem article and the flag article.--nixie 02:39, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Alright. I saw what you said about the USAID reference, so I decided not to use that and use the OSCE reference (since the OSCE is one of the main election monitors in Belarus). Mikka is also right that with the bundling of questions in the election (parliamentary election, flag vote, emblem vote, vote on unification, vote for adopting Russian), people got confused. HWR said that Lukashenko was telling people to stay home from the poling places, but I will not add that bit. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:42, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

New scouting article

Your inputs to Violence in the Boy Scouts would be much appreciated. I tried putting it on the controversy article, but it was blasted from all sides so I moved the material to its own article. Within 5 minutes, there was an NPOV tag on it. Sounds like a battle is brewing! -Husnock 14:23, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

It looks fair when I took a glance at it. All I can suggest is to provide references, if any, and the article should be good to go. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:34, 7 March 2006 (UTC)
Nothing less than a gang of users have had back door under-the-table conversations on talk pages and are now trying to delete the article. It is a clear case of censorship form those who doesn't like what the article has to say. Please visit the article and vote KEEP if you feel it warrants. Thanks! -Husnock 16:53, 8 March 2006 (UTC)


Hi. You uploaded Image:PRC_coa.png, which is now being used on many pages related to the People's Republic of China. Given the high visibility of this image, I think it would be a very good idea to clarify its copyright status. Do you have any information in this area? Thanks. --Ryan Delaney talk 14:55, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Ryan, use Image:National emblem of the People's Republic of China.png now. I found this image is better quality and also has a clearer license. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 19:11, 7 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Flag RSFSR 1918.gif

Hi! you asked wether I've got a source for this image: downloaded it from a .ru heraldry-specialised website claiming it was PD - as it must be anyway since it's fair use and the design was published anyway in the USSR before 1973 - and Russian law does not c-right designs such as flags or national emblems anyway (doesn't apply to corporate design though!). But I definitely didn't get it from the commercial website you're quoting in the file history as an original source ( - better ask THEM where they got it from: they don't have world monopoly on vectorised .bmps I suppose... All the best! Emigrant123 14:33, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Editing myself - I know that all this "pre-1973" logic is mainly wrong when applied to other items, but it does apply to non-commercial, high-recon. value authorless items whose design is not included in art.18 of the Berne Conv. plus the Rome Conv. US cpright law doesn't apply here in any case. In fact, has no right to sell this image or to claim any right to it (but that's another problem).Emigrant123
They gave us permission to use their GIF images anyways as long as we said we got the image from them. I checked and the images are both 100 pixels, so that is why I said that website is the source. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:41, 8 March 2006 (UTC)
As for the question of do they have the rights to do this, I have been kicking around that idea myself. Other flag websites had their images taken from them, like Flags of the World, and people cited before "it's a flag, so it's PD" while me and others said "please respect our TOS." But with us using vector images (SVG code, not the website) now on WP, we are able to not rely on the commercial websites and we can draw most of these flags ourselves, with a little help. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:44, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Barnstar development guidelines

In response to some of the comments about archiving discussions, and how awards are vetted, last week I tweaked the Guidelines. No one noticed. I also archived the discussion that was used to create them. I just wanted to give you a heads up. evrik 18:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Awards Page

I think that the variety of pages Barnstars and Other Related Awards and Personal User Awards for the awards are confusing. I have been trying to streamline them by creating the Wikipedia:Awards page. Let me know what you think. evrik 18:40, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, they are starting to get confusing, but there is little what we can do to fix the situation, since not every award that is passed out is listed at any page.User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 20:51, 8 March 2006 (UTC)

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Photo "disappeared." User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 14:37, 9 March 2006 (UTC)


I just noticed that you unblocked Netoholic without letting me know or even noting this on his talk page.

Please explain how I'm an "involved party." My only involvement in this dispute has been to respond to Netoholic's flagrant misconduct. I've never edited these templates or their talk pages.

Please also explain why Netoholic's decision to deliberately restore harmful code (condemned by lead developer Brion Vibber) to a namespace from which he's banned, after he was explicitly warned not to do so, does not warrant a block. —David Levy 21:35, 9 March 2006 (UTC)

Neto came on IRC, complained about the block, I looked into it and the block looked strange, since it always was Locke Cole who came on AN/I to announce Neto did something wrong, then you blocked (except for one time I did the block). I suggest that if Brion did say that the code was harmful, can you show me the diff where he said it? And if it is harmful, could Brion perform the block himself, since Neto has the mindset now that you and Locke are out to get him. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 00:07, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
My message on AN/I was after David blocked him. If you don't believe me, ask a developer to check for you. —Locke Coletc 00:10, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
I don't understand. You decided that I was an "involved party" because I'd blocked him once before...and because Netoholic claimed that Locke Cole and I "are out to get him"? Is that correct? And why didn't you inform me of this decision?
When I previously blocked Netoholic, he complained that I had provided no specific advance warning. When I noticed that he was restoring the hiddenStructure hack to templates, I explicitly warned him that he would be blocked if this continued. When I followed through, you unblocked him without notice or discussion.
Netoholic is banned from editing within the template namespace, and the ArbCom has indicated that this restriction remains in effect when Netoholic's behavior is disruptive. The deliberate insertion of harmful code is highly disruptive, and it's a block-worthy offense in and of itself (irrespective of any ArbCom rulings).
Incidentally, here's the diff that you requested. Of course, we don't really need Brion to tell us that the hiddenStructure CSS hack is harmful, as this is easily demonstrable. —David Levy 01:22, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
David, ah, I get you now. I will not unblock again, but as I said before, try to get more admins involved and maybe y'all should try to take a break from this. I looked at brions note, and I did speak to him in IRC, and I think I am seeing now what yall are trying to do. I used the ArbCom case as my citiation for the block I did earlier, but if y'all think that is doing no good, then file an ArbCom case, again. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 01:53, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you for taking the time to better understand the situation. My questions, however, remain. Why did you deem me "involved," and why didn't you contact me before (or at least after) unblocking Netoholic?
Quoth the blocking policy:
"If you disagree with a block placed by another admin, please contact that admin to discuss the matter."
"Bear in mind that blocked users commonly e-mail several admins claiming to be the victims of persecution by a biased admin. Because it is not always obvious from the blocked user's edit history what the problem was, it is a matter of courtesy and common sense to consult the blocking admin, rather than performing the unblock yourself. Exceptions to this would be where an unambiguous error has been made (not a judgment call) and the blocking admin is not online: for example, if a user was blocked for 3RR, but there were clearly only three reverts. If you feel that such an error has been made, and the blocking admin is not available, you must notify the blocking admin on his or her talk page and the rest of the administrator community at Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents that you are unblocking a blocked user, before doing so."
As for the existing ArbCom ruling, I think that it could be effective, but not when Netoholic consistently succeeds in preventing its enforcement. —David Levy 02:13, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
That is my fault for not discussing this with you, my apologies to you. Second, I spoke with Locke on IRC and he told me what is going on, and pretty much I see why he goes to AN/I and things like that. The current ArbCom ruling is in force for about 2 more months, but all I can do is when a block happens, I will just not unblock and try to ignore the pleas on IRC, since that is where Neto asked for the unblocking to occur. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:39, 10 March 2006 (UTC)
Thanks again for delving further. Apology accepted. :-) —David Levy 02:43, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

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If you have time could you comment on this fair use issue, Talk:Map-territory relation. Many thanks. ॐ Metta Bubble puff 06:38, 10 March 2006 (UTC)

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Toasted. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 22:40, 11 March 2006 (UTC)

Richard Norton

Hi -- I just wanted to let you know that I e-mailed Richard Norton about the copyright issue. I think he was just confused about how licenses work, and I e-mailed him to try and clarify the points with him about why he can't just label things CC-SA and GFDL willy-nilly, and to explain what he should do in terms of rectifying the situation. I think he's a generally good guy, but his interpersonal skills are sometimes wanting. Anyway I just wanted to let you know that I don't think he's deliberately being difficult here on this issue, and that he is just genuinely confused. --Fastfission 00:49, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

Also -- he has e-mailed me and claimed that many of the photos he labeled as CC-BY-SA he did with permission of the copyright holders, who he was in contact with by e-mail. I'll try to get some more clarification on this point. He seems to be willing to agree to not upload more images if he's allowed to continue editing; I think the indef block got the point across, though I think it might be a little harsh in this case. Again, I think he's a generally good editor, though I think he has bad person-to-person skills, and has a hard time explaining himself. Let me know what you think about all of this. He's in e-mail correspondence with me (I worked with him awhile back to dig up some info from databases he had access to), and I'm happy to try and broker a deal out here that would be satisfactory to everyone. --Fastfission 00:53, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

I got his email too, but there are a lot of photos that still need to be cleaned up. While I agree that he is a good editor, I think the copyright issues are probably a weakpoint. This is also why I think that we could lock upload permissions if that is the users only fault. (Richard mentioned this in the email, which I really think should happen). As for the indef block, I just saw what happened at EN and at the Commons and there is a lot more cleanup that needs to be done. But, if another admin wants to lift the block at EN, go right ahead (the Commons block should stay in place until I clean up his mess there). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:11, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
(Sorry for jumping in here, but for some reason or another I've got your page watchlisted...) Can't you ask him not to upload any more images and then unblock him? Wouldn't that solve the problem? Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 02:13, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
Your welcome to jump him: maybe I could lift the block in a week, but something weird is going to happen involving me, so if y'all want to lift the block, I give y'all permission to do so. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 02:38, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I have shortened the block at en - there are five days left. --Jeffrey O. Gustafson - Shazaam! - <*> 08:21, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I think, from the tone of his emails, is that he is leaving the project, since he asked me (or anyone really) to blank his userpage. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 16:27, 15 March 2006 (UTC)
I have just spotted this, and I honestly cannot believe that the best way to resolve these issues was to use a bot to blank every single one of his uploads. It would be OK, if after removing them from the articles that they were studied and checked individually for copyright information, engaging in more interaction with the user and not blocking him (?!). Orphaning the images and then tagging them for pending deletion is not the answer. Take a look at Image:8312014109405406864.jpg, and also read his answers to the questions in his failed RFA. He approaches the families of those in which his articles concern to get permission for photographs etc. Why remove links to a census from 1880 as in Image:1880 census Neebe 2.gif?! They're scans of his primary sources. I just feel that in dealing with this situation, that some parties have been very heavy handed in their approach, I appreciate that copyright must be resepected and that it's an important issue. But I feel that many valid useful photographs and images will be lost as "collateral damage" in this incident. And by the way, I came by this incident looking through Category:Memorable photographs and happening upon Image:GreatDayHarlem.jpg (I wrote an article on Bud Freeman who is pictured). I believe that's a fair use picture for use in A Great Day in Harlem, but now it's been orphaned, who's to stop it from being tagged and deleted by someone who doesn't know about this incident? I'm sure there are others out there in the same boat. - Hahnchen 07:28, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Do you remember me?

Greetings from an Indian wikipedian. I have been around here for about a year, including being an administrator from 18th September 2005. I request you to kindly do me the favor of providing me your valuable comments and suggestions on my contributions, activities and behavior pattern. I shall be awaiting your free and frank opinion, which you are most welcome to give here. --Bhadani 15:02, 15 March 2006 (UTC)

SR 238

My question was about the other part - the concurrencies on I-64. --SPUI (talk - don't use sorted stub templates!) 00:48, 16 March 2006 (UTC) Oh..hmm...perhaps put it on the I-64 article itself. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 00:51, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

West Indian flag

Hi Zack, long time no see: :) I have a flag creation request: We need an svg image of the Image:West Indies Cricket Board Flag.png. Thought I'd message you since you're the expert. Regards, =Nichalp «Talk»= 10:30, 16 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the image :)

Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole


An Arbitration case in which you commented has been opened: Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole. Please add evidence to the evidence sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole/Evidence. You may also contribute to the case on the workshop sub-page, Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Locke Cole/Workshop.

On behalf of the Arbitration Committee, --Tony Sidaway 10:34, 17 March 2006 (UTC)

Too Bad

What part of "too bad" is so hard to understand? I'm trying to solve the problems of Wikipedia. Feel free to disagree, i'm fighting for your right to do so without being arbitrarily punished by some random bully. If you haven't already, you should also read the FAQs subpage on my user page.Karmafist Save Wikipedia 06:15, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

Alright, but my question is what will it take for you to have the "Save Wikipedia" link removed from your sig (though, really, I have no room to talk, since my sig has the fair use rules on WP). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) Fair use policy 06:20, 18 March 2006 (UTC)

FAC Grito

The section is still a little choppy, especially the first paragraph. It doesn't flow like a good sequence of events, and "the copyright changed hands again" doesn't specify who gave up the copyright when it changed hands. It's better than before though, and if there isn't more information available, so be it. The translation, as I said, I can live with, and it sounds like my suggestions are going to be accepted, but in the meantime I think the article is pretty much ready to go. I'd just make sure that there isn't a way to make the copyright thing a little more clear. Also, was there a reason for splitting up the Regulations section into really short paragraphs? —Spangineer[es] (háblame) 06:07, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

About the regulations section, I have no clue who broke it up into little sections, but I do not see it as a big problem. I will try and see if I make the copyright section more clearer. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:13, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Edit war on "Alexander Lukasheno" ?/ block of User:Avraamrii

Hi Zscout. I've been contacted by Avraamrii who's been blocked for breaking the 3RR on Alexander Lukashenko. As you can see on my talk page, I too had discussions with User:172 yesterday, although I basically absented from editing the page. Avraamrii was blocked by User:Mikkalai, but Avraamrii defends himself by stating that the dispute is basically about 1) User:172 making large-scale edits without discussing them first (true, it annoys me as well), 2) whether a source should be referenced as Christian Science Monitor or the Gallup Institute. I've not examined it, but I for one am particularly worried about 172's edit to the first paragraph, which I feel waters down the fact that Lukashenko is a dictator, it appears Avraamrii feels the same way. 172 claims that these references are "politicizing matters", which sounds somewhat strange to my ears. I can't find any warnings to Avraamrii about breaking the 3RR.

Would you mind investigating this incident? I haven't gone through all of the edit history myself, but the following is a copy of a message from Avraamrii to Mikkalai (sent by Avraamrii to me). Best regards Valentinian (talk) 12:28, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

(quote) Mikkalai,

User 172 isn't being forthright in his complaints in what changes he made. If you see the edits I made to the Lukashenko article using the diff, you'll notice I restored material deleted by user 172 AND I rephrased his reference to the Gallup poll to make it clear that the source for this is The Christian Science monitor rather than the Gallup organization. Despite that, he reverted my changes and erroneously asserted that I removed the poll. He's complaining about that singular point, when in fact he deleted other factual material that was argued a long time ago when he was involved in similar discussions where he wouldn't defend his deletions. For example, he removed the following without explanation:

He has been described by the United States as "Europe's last dictator" and features on the US's list of 'outposts of tyranny'. Lukashenko's external and internal policies have led Belarus to be barred from joining the Council of Europe.

This is a fact. He's been labelled as such by the US and EU and his actions have led Belarus to be barred from the Council of Europe. There was no reason for 172 to delete this.

Another example of material he arbitrarily removed: In November 1995, he caused international controversy by claiming in an interview that Hitler's domestic policies had not been entirely bad for Germany. Many of his critics took this as implying that a similar type of authoritarian leadership could benefit Belarus.

Again, this is a fact. Lukashenko made these remarks at a Hannover trade fair in 1995. In fact, the remarks were much worse since Lukashenko said that the only thing bad about Hitler was the war, but otherwise was a strong leader for Germany.

In short, user 172 is complaining about reverts to his Gallup poll insertions (which I left in there in my last edit even though I can't find the poll in Gallup and Lukashenko doesn't allow NGO's to take polls, at least openly), which were a minor part of his major deletions to the article. All that I've asked is that he discuss the major edits he's made and defend them, which he hasn't done.

Thanks. (unquote)

Valentinian is correct -- I wasn't warned. Being relatively new to Wikipedia, there are a myriad of rules which I'm still learning. Nevertheless, I didn't use the revert utility but instead made the edits manually. Mikka's message informing that I was blocked said it was an automatic software block (though, again, I wasn't using that revert utility). Anyway, going forward I know to edit the article MORE, though it really looks like a hostile mess in Wikipedia with an admin teaming with a favored user to delete and block users at whim. The 3RR doesn't appear to be applied even handedly by our friend Mikka. Looking at his talk page, I've seen similar complaints made. Avraamrii 04:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
You are not the first to complain about Mikka and his adminship handleing. We have some Romanian and Modolvans who have issues with him. He thinks that a lot of material that is on Belarus is detrimental to the Lukashenko Government (I write a good portion of the Belarusian articles). My only suggestion is to just nuke the article (well, not delete it) and just start from scratch. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:09, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Is it possible to create a new article on Lukashenko, perhaps from another POV, where we're not seeing Mikka and other pro-Lukashenko admins/supporters harassing participants and making frivolous edits? Case in point, someone posted a useless comment that Belarus has "one of the lowest Gini coefficients in the world." Yet, it's not true. I believe someone pointed it out, and yet this statement remains. Moreover, it's a meaningless ranking because it's not as low as Ethiopia's. It puts the Belarus Gini rating in perspective. I'm at the point where it's not worthwhile for me to burn a lot of hours battling the reverts/deletions on this article. The only reason I started editing it is because Yahoo News is linking to it, funny as that sounds.
Let me know what you guys recommend. Maybe it's possible to bring back the NPOV on the article? I told Valentinian that I'm considering bringing up a comprehensive, English language web site with current news on the situation in Belarus, which will hopefully bring much needed information to those outside of Belarus/Russia.
Avraamrii 15:06, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Greetings from the United Federation of Planets

Hey there. Since you were the major uploader of Star Trek rank insignias I thought you'd like t know most of the images are now in commons. I am however hesitant to upload TNG enlisted ranks at the moment as I want these to be checked, something doesnt look right.

Now I know on TNG enlisted insignia was a complete mess but on DS9 Chief Petty Officer Miles O'Brian wars a single hollow pip. On TNG thats onw gold pip and one hollow pip. Whats up with that?

By the way, I have made some major modifications to Starfleet ranks and insignia and you might want to take a look

--Cool CatTalk|@ 21:15, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Alright, thanks for sending them to the Commons. As for the error in the images, i'll take a peek and see which ones were screwed up and fix them. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:19, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Also take a look at commons:Starfleet ranks and insignia. I need few images with a free license. --Cool CatTalk|@ 21:41, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Can you provide specific examples, since some of the ones I checked are PD-user|me, which is pretty free. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:45, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
Well I need Star Trek: Enterprise enlisted insignias, voyager provisional insignias, 29th century insignias
Also need Star Trek: Enterprise era mirror universe as well as The Next Generation Mirror universe.
Basicaly any red link on commons:Starfleet ranks and insignia... Aside from TNG enslited which you were going to check. ;)
--Cool CatTalk|@ 21:49, 19 March 2006 (UTC)
I am also looking for MACO insignias... --Cool CatTalk|@ 21:52, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Nerys Kira

Thought you may want to comment. --Cool CatTalk|@ 21:53, 19 March 2006 (UTC)

Image copyright question

Hello, Zscout370. I've uploaded an image to inllustrate Cyclone Larry, but I was hoping you could clear up the copyright status of the image. I've claimed fair use on the image (Image:Larry track map 11AM EST Monday 20 March 2006.gif), and tried to follow the instructions at the corresponding copyright page, but I was wondering if it is usable due to the restrictions on Crown Copyright on commercial usage. I don't mind deleting the image if I'm mistaken, but I'd rather know if it is something we can do in the future for future storms. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 04:52, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Titoxd, I was reading and it says that the image is not allowed to be used for commercial use. However, that will be something you can ask someone to draw and have them put under a free license. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:58, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Nah. Since it is basically usable for only a few hours, it isn't really worth the trouble. I'll just delete it. Thanks. Titoxd(?!? - help us) 05:04, 20 March 2006 (UTC)
Alright. While your here, I was killing some red links at the Mexican national anthem article. Your welcome to expand on anything there. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:37, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

User talk:SPUI

Can this be unsemiprotected? The reason for semiprotection appears to now be moot. Stifle 13:57, 20 March 2006 (UTC)

Belarusian Central Rada

In hoping to learn about Belarusian history, I stumbled across this article. It is a right mess. I have tried to clean it up, but since I know close to nothing about Belarusian history, I was a bit at a loss. This important article would benefit from your knowledge in the area. I hope you father returns home safely. Regards, Ground Zero | t 00:23, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the words about my dad; I will try and take a peek at the article and see what I can do. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:47, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

User talk:Cool Cat/Ribbon

I thought you might want to take a look at this page. --Cool CatTalk|@ 17:12, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Would you mind if I uploaded your ribbons to commons?
Do you have a ribbon for every barn star? If not I'd like you to create two more ribbons for me for the barnstars I got and you havent: Image:Barnstar of Reversion2.png, Image:Upholder order.gif Image:Minor Barnstar.png
--Cool CatTalk|@ 17:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
Also perhaps a year of service barnstar?

Wikipedia talk:Barnstar and award proposals/Ribbons

You may want to take a look at there for my proposal. --Cool CatTalk|@ 17:51, 21 March 2006 (UTC)

Yes, the ribbons can be uploaded to the Commons; I believe other ribbons were made for those two awards. My intent was to make the ribbons not official and just make my userpage look better, but I am suprised that y'all like them so much. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 19:38, 21 March 2006 (UTC)
You think? I am burried under a mass of barnstars... --Cool CatTalk|@ 11:24, 23 March 2006 (UTC)
That was why I did the ribbons. I know there will be some things to work out if the ribbons become official, but I a still generally suprised the community likes them. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:20, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

USN Jack

Thanks for the help using the bot to clean up some of the jack images on ship pages! However, I have one concern. I noticed you have been replacing the historical US Navy jack (USN-Jack.png) with the new and current one. This fine for any ships in commission from 2001 on, but may not be appropriate for a lot of ships which served earlier as this puts a jack on their page which they never sailed under. Instead, it seems to be the consensus of the ships WikiProject to use the jack a ship actually used, so putting historical ships under appropriate historical jacks/ensigns. I don't have a bot at my disposal and so I can't make the individual edits myself, so I would respectfully ask that you review your bot's routine so that only appropriate articles have their jack/ensign image updated. Thanks!! Josh 05:11, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Most of the ship articles anyways should have used the 48 Star Jack, but that image was never created and they used the 50 Star Jack Instead (from 1960-2001). And, if you want, a 48 Star jack can be created and be used on several articles. I do not read the articles myself before I let my bot run loose, I just switch images regardless of how the image is used in the article. I can always run it again, but I am going to wait and see which articles need the 48 Star Jack, the 50 Star Jack and those that can be left with the 2001 Jack. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:18, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Sorry, I was just too late to support you!

Hi, Zach. I came across your RfB through looking at the contributions of someone to see if he was online. I voted to support, but got an edit conflict. I looked to see what the conflict was, and saw that it had just been closed, probably while I was pressing preview. I'm sorry I didn't get a chance to support you, but want you to know that you would have had my support, and I appreciate the good work you do here. Cheers. AnnH 23:48, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. I guess the community thought I was doing a good job as admin, and felt like my energies should be devoted elsewhere. I am not bothered by the RFB removed early (I did it myself) since a lot of people were just fighting it out on the talk page. Plus, I saw a bunch of men, filled with sraw, coming to the page, and that is when I pulled the plug. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:51, 22 March 2006 (UTC)

No big deal

I may have missed the party with regards to having a say in your 'crat-ship, but I reckon you're cunning as a dunny rat and you don't need no stinking badger to get my respect. - brenneman{L} 00:01, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Dinner, FTW! Thanks for the support anyways. I think I will just focus more on what I can do at Meta and start stubs at BE Wikipedia. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:05, 23 March 2006 (UTC)


Don't let my minor spat with Linuxbeak cloud things for you. It's only twoish editors disagreeing with one another. -Splashtalk 00:03, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

More users started to get involved, I saw invisible sraw people coming up, so I figured for the best of the Wiki, and our blood pressure, to end it pre-maturely. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:06, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

A somewhat late Thank You

I was bored, so I clicked on an article on my watchlist (Your talkpage) and then went to your main userpage, and found out that you are what made The Flag of Mexico a featured article. Thank you for drawing attention to it and making it a absolutely wonderful article. I'd give you an award of some sort, but I'm out of ideas. Thank you! - RPharazon 00:12, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

De nada; your welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:13, 23 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Various unseen or stub Star Trek Classes

You may want to vote here --Cool CatTalk|@ 02:55, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


Would you recommend article or user RFC? Arguably it could be a user RFC since it's one person against many. Really we're just trying to get him to wait until we have consensus for either side- but SPUI decided that the consensus was on his side and started moving pages. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 03:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

If you really, truely, think it is a RFC on a person, rather than an issue, then go ahead and fill out an RFC against SPUI. Either way, this issue needs to be resolved now. The quicker, the better. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:59, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
If noone is assigned to the Med Cabal I'll escalate it to some form of RFC. I'll poll the other people and ask for their opinion. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 05:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:50, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

By the same token SPUI has been doing mass conversions of {{routeboxca2}} to {{Infobox CA Route}} without consensus, and a major edit war is developing regarding this. Could we make any conversions from {{routeboxca2}} to {{Infobox CA Route}} or the other way around a blockable offense? (For only the users involved- if there's a user who has no clue and changes the infobox then they're not included). Respond to WP:AN/I --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:20, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

At these the same one's up for TFD? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:32, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
{{routeboxca2}} was TFD'ed by SPUI but had a keep consensus. However after this SPUI continued and continues to change the infoboxes to his liking. People revert and he reverts back. This war could spread to all 200+ pages of the California State Highway System and something needs to be done. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 06:42, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Wikipediatrix's talk page

I understand that removal of warnings from one's talk page is considered vandalism but surely if the warning is disputed or added incorrectly an exception should be made? The warnings on Wikipediatrix's talk page were added by Swatjester who is not even an admin (unlike Wikipediatrix). What are your thoughts? File:Glenstollery.gifPOW! 07:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

one does not need to be an admin to give warnings on wikipedia. SWATJester Flag of Iceland.svg Ready Aim Fire! 07:07, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
I know that please reread what I wrote. Taking what I wrote to the extreme imagine that some vandal came and added half a dozen warnings to your user page for no reason... Is it your position that you have to leave them there? File:Glenstollery.gifPOW! 07:12, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Depends. If it's a case of blatant vandalism, no, ideally another editor would remove it for me, or I'd do it myself. If they were valid, or even borderline valid (i was disputing them, but many believe them to be true), then yes I'd have to keep them. In wikipediatrix's case though, she's been personally attacking myself, disrupting at least one article, and she has a history of doing it to other editors, as I found out tonight. Not just me, two other editors, including two admins, were keeping the warnings up on her page. That's a pretty good sign they've got some merit behind them. SWATJester Flag of Iceland.svg Ready Aim Fire! 07:14, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Needless to say, I disagree severely with virtually everything Swatjester just said. Pot, kettle, black. wikipediatrix 07:31, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
The warnings were added by two different people, and both said to not remove them. He did so, and based on the edit history of revert after revert, I decided to lock the page. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:15, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
He is a she BTW. Thank you for your reply, I'm just trying to locate the second warning (I'm no doubt getting blind in my old age). File:Glenstollery.gifPOW! 07:19, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Whoops. I knew that. The first warning was by me, the second one was by vilerage (name appears in cyrillic). SWATJester Flag of Iceland.svg Ready Aim Fire! 07:48, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

User talk: Wikipediatrix

ZScout370, I honestly did not know users were not supposed to remove warning boxes from their talk pages. I had been under the mistaken assumption, based upon viewing of others, that we were free to maintain our talk pages any way we wished and to keep disruptive posts off. Swatjester's warning was unwarranted in the first place, because he took offense at being called an "Armed Forces guy", and in fact, I feel I am the attacked party here, not him.

More relevantly, your comment on my talk page incorrectly and unfairly accuses me of not heeding "негіднийлють"'s warning, and thus locked my page. I did not revert my page any further after негіднийлють's warning, and a quick glance at the history confirms this.

So when do I get my talk page unlocked? wikipediatrix 07:23, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

That is true it was I that reverted after this and rather than locking the page I should probably have been warned myself. However I was also unaware of this rule and now knowing it would not (of course) revert it again. I was only reverting as I believed (like Wikipediatrix) that your talk page was yours to edit as you wish. For this error I apologise. File:Glenstollery.gifPOW! 07:36, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Stollery, it's ok, things happen. Wikipediatrix, I will go ahead and unlock the userpage now, but please do not remove the warnings again. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:02, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
Thank you! Wikipediatrix, sorry about that :( File:Glenstollery.gifPOW! 08:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
For the record, the NPA warning was a combination of your uncivil tone in attacking my military service for no reason, and the more direct referring to me as a "troll" in edit summars for adding a {{npov}} tag, which clearly was a personal attack. SWATJester Flag of Iceland.svg Ready Aim Fire! 18:26, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
If you really think calling you an "Armed Forces guy" is attacking your military service, then you speak a different version of the English language than the one I am accustomed to. Similarly, I did not refer to you as a "troll". I accused certain of your POSTS of being an act of "trolling", which, while similar, is not the same thing. It's your POSTS I criticized, not you, therefore I feel your personal attack warning on my talk page (and subsequent unnecessary drama) was completely unwarranted, and an act of petty and deliberate harassment on your part. Even now, you still persist in spinning it into something bigger and worse than it was. wikipediatrix 15:57, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
IMHO, being called an "Armed Forces guy" is not a personal attack to me, but if SWAT believes so, then try to not use that language in a negative tone. But, as for the word troll, the both of y'all need to be careful about the use of that term. I have seen many cases where people are just using that term all of the time and eventually, the parties end up here. So, I suggest the both of you to relax, edit other things. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 16:29, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Hey, Zscout370, one more thing: We have another user, UNK, who is needlessly slapping Warnings on the talk pages of myself, Stollery, and others, in apparent "revenge" over this RfC. How long are the warning notices supposed to stay on my talk page - forever? If that's the case, harassing users can endlessly keep my talk page flooded with warnings over even the slightest comment that rubs anyone's rhubarb the wrong way. And since these users are the ones making the personal attacks against me, there's no way I can respond with a similar warning without it looking like WP:POINT. wikipediatrix 14:53, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
The warnings are clearly explained and linked with evidence and therefore warranted and not just a harassment or personal attack. --UNK 15:17, 31 March 2006 (UTC)
The warnings are not supposed to stay up forever: I would say that with the amount of messages you get, in a month, it would be safe to move the messages onto an archive page. However, Wikipediatrix, if someone removes your comments from the talk page, just place them back. I did not see the post you cited, UNK, as a personal attack at all, since she was asking "why did X user take off my two postings at the talk page." User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Image:Flag of Ottawa, Ontario.svg

It looks like you may have run the bitmap through an auto-tracer. Why not try tracing the image manually from scratch, using as few nodes as you can? Denelson83 09:27, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

I actually traced it by hand; every looks fine except the Big O. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:38, 24 March 2006 (UTC)


Dude, how many days are you going to keep me banned from IRC? I think this is a little excessive. Everyking 10:05, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

And I find your "Do not spam or you will be blocked from Wikipedia" message to be far too harsh and threatening. Why do you need something like that? Everyking 10:06, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
One, the IRC block is lifted. Two, the above notice was a template I started to use once I got the adminship job. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:40, 24 March 2006 (UTC)
{{nospam}} removed. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:49, 24 March 2006 (UTC)

Image:Barnstar reversion ribbon.png

Here is one image. I will try and knock out the other two images. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:34, 25 March 2006 (UTC)

Thank you! :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 22:41, 25 March 2006 (UTC)
Welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 22:43, 25 March 2006 (UTC)


Has started moving pages again- check his contribs. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:21, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Moves are legit; the discussion on the proposed move changes was stopped and as part of the decision, they were moved. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:37, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Um it was no consensus if you look at the talk page. I've blocked for a hour until someone else can look at the situation. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:42, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
You realize I am an admin, right? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:43, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Um, yes. That's why I put this note on your talk page. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 21:48, 26 March 2006 (UTC)
Ok, because I looked at the situation, and in my view, I believe everything was done legit. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:49, 26 March 2006 (UTC)

Meanwhile, there are signs that the massive war is about to go to Washington. --Rschen7754 (talk - contribs) 01:29, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Re: Meta adminship

Thanks for the notice; per your request, I'll re-evaluate it soon. Thanks! Flcelloguy (A note?) 01:23, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:11, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Hymn of Russia

I have no clue what you done at [2], but I been trying to get that same effect for who-knows how long now. So, for not only doing that, and for the grammar check, that barnstar to the right of the screen is officially yours for the taking. Thanks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 04:46, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks for the barnstar, it is my first so I will place it on my userpage. What I did was to remove the width code which was pushing the Russian column of the hymn table to 50% of the page. It should work with wdith at 33% but I don't think it's worth the effort. Anyway thanks for the barnstar and if I can help in anyway, feel free to ask. Green Giant 05:18, 27 March 2006 (UTC)
I tried the 33 percent width, but that did not work. But, still, thank you. The only other thing I can suggest is look at the FAC of the article and see if I need to do something. Thanks again. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:21, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Flag of Nashville

Hi Zscout370, I was wondering if you be gracious enough to post the contruction sheet instructions to the Nashville flag talk page, along with information about it's source. There seems to be disagreement about whether or not the fly includes a small white band similar to the state flag. Kaldari 18:28, 27 March 2006 (UTC)

Hey, thanks Zscout!

I appreciate your well wishes for my engagemeent! :-) Ta bu shi da yu 12:40, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Your quite welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:32, 28 March 2006 (UTC)

Images for deletion

A bunch of your st-tng images were nominated for deletion as orphans (which they are currently). Were you notified? Please respond on Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion/2006 March 20 -Thanks Nv8200p talk 00:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I was notified that I need to re-draw some, but not about it's deletion. However, Nv8200p, please kill the images. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:14, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
Its the images now on commons. :) --Cool CatTalk|@ 09:41, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

your ribbons

Barnstar Awards
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon
User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon User:Cool Cat/Ribbon

I personaly think you may want to reorganise them a bit. --Cool CatTalk|@ 09:56, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

Thanks, but the format I am using now is what was used during the former Soviet Union (duplicate ribbons are shown multiple times). User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 14:44, 29 March 2006 (UTC)
That is why they fell, the uniforms did not had any room for more ribbons! --Cool CatTalk|@ 18:06, 29 March 2006 (UTC)


I noticed that this template describes a licence that disallows commercial reuse of images but the template doesn't warn about the images getting deleted, unlike other non-commercial-only licence templates.

I noticed that you edited the template so it no longer forbade commercial use but the "no-commercial-use" clause came back recently.

What is the status of these images? I thought after Jimbo's mail we're going to remove all non-commercial-only images....

Note that this template has inspired the creation of another non-commercial-only template -- Image. -- Paddu 20:13, 29 March 2006 (UTC)

I discussed this with FOTW editors, since I am the unofficial gopher between us and FOTW. I think that it will be safe to add back the non-commercial deletion warning template. I had added it before, but it kept on being removed since some still believe that Flag=PD, no matter what. However, I have been manually drawing SVG flags, so images from here are getting replaced one by one. My goal is to wipe out FOTW and images, but I thank you for helping me. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:07, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

Why wipe them out? and good luck doing so, since about 60% of the flags on wikipedia are from those websites. if you're willing to make your own, that's good, but if not, we're going to have a LOT of broken links. why do flags break the rules, anyway? no one has really explained it.

Raccoon Fox 02:35, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

BYU User Box

You may be interested in updates to Template:User_BYU. I've added several new options to the talk page there. NThurston 22:25, 30 March 2006 (UTC)

If I had a say, I would choose something with all three letters, since having the plain Y in the userbox will easily confuse it with the Yale Univ. userbox. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:20, 31 March 2006 (UTC)

Innocent Blocking

Sorry to be a bother, but I was recently blocked by you because I shared the same IP as "Tommysun". My user name is User:FireSpike, and my IP address is Please revert the block as soon as possible, Thank You.

I been at Univ. all day, I will lift the block now. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:03, 1 April 2006 (UTC)

Question regarding Image

Please see my post on your commons user account, here. Thanks. J@red  00:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I seen it, task is now done. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 00:48, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
I appreciate your helping. The problem, though, is that the image you replaced it with is the same image. Maybe my explanation wasn't the clearest before, but this is what I tried to say:
I'd like the image currently at commons:Image:Olympic flag.svg to be reloaded/uploaded as the new image for Image:Flag of the Olympic Movement.svg.
This will make the many pages containing the ugly colored flag have the right one without having to change the name of the image on each one. Thanks for your help, again! J@red  02:30, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
That is what I did the first time around, so I suggest you purge/refresh your cache and it should come up correctly. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:49, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Hmmm. I tried that but it's not working. It's still the same colors. Do the two images look the same on your browser now? Even looking at pages that contain the image show that it is the same as before. J@red  03:00, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
Everything looks fine on my end, so I have no clue what is going on. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:12, 2 April 2006 (UTC)
FYI, everything is working now. I guess it just took overnight for the page cache to purge and reload. Thanks, again. J@red  12:29, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


I just found yourNordic-Celtic Flag at

This user is of Teutonic and Celtic ancestry.

. My very similar contribution made in March was unrelated to yours. See Talk:Flag_of_Ireland. I wonder how approprate the flag is for Teutonic/Celtic, since green and orange aren't associated with any of the other Celtic languages. Evertype 12:10, 2 April 2006 (UTC)

I just drew the flag the way it was depicted in the userbox, so if the colors might be wrong, go ahead and let me know what needs to be changed. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:36, 2 April 2006 (UTC)


Thanks. Very cool. - Jmabel | Talk 03:54, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

No problem. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 03:58, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Hi Zscout370,

I looked through all the Georgian resources I can find on the net. They are not very informative, but I added some more info to the article. I hope that I’ve been helpful. Regards, Kober 19:13, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

You are welcome. I’m not sure if the detail below is worth to be mentioned in the article, but it was heavily reported by media and could be included under the trivia section.
During George W Bush’s visit to Georgia, on May 10 2005, when he along with President Saakashvili were addressing tens of thousands of Georgians on Tavisuplebis Moedani, Tbilisi, a recording of Georgia's national anthem failed to play properly. Saakashvili then motioned to choirs, and thousands in the crowd joined the singers in singing the anthem, a moment which was described by media as "the most powerful moment of the day" [3].
Best wishes, Kober 05:15, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
Go ahead and mention it, it sounds pretty neat. :) I added in the MX anthem article that the anthem was used in Japan to arrest Colombian nationals and in Russia, players were scolded by Putin for using gum and not singing. :) User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:37, 4 April 2006 (UTC)
I added it in. I will try and find more on the music and lyric history, or back story, and see if I can find the regulations too. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:40, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Greetings from richardshusr

Hi ZScout370,

I notice that you have a fancy signature that includes a superscripted (Return Fire). How do you do that? I sign my messages with four tildes. What do I need to do to have a signature like yours?

Richard 06:41, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Dear Richard, you put this into your Nickname: section in your preferences (also click Raw signature): [[User:Zscout370]] <small><sup>[[User_talk:Zscout370|(Return Fire)]]</sup></small>. Enjoy. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:49, 3 April 2006 (UTC)


Will you please take off the protection you put onto WBRU even though you had no idea what was going on. I followed the story minute by minute and have everything that you ruined saved on my computer. If you could take off the protection I coould give a summary of the events and and major timeline inncidents. Please do not tell me that I am a new user. I have been using Wikipedia for over a year and a half now and I am very well versed in their polices. I only statred editing over the past week because it was the first event that I knew an extensive amount about. You had no right to take the law into your hands. Thanks Caf3623 23:33, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Calm down please; a request was presented to me, I checked the edit history, so I decided to use the least level of protection, which is semi. While you say you have been at Wikipedia for a while, the software prevents people who have the "newest" accounts from editing, and also prevents IP addresses from editing too. But, since April 1st is over, the semi protection can be lifted. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:38, 3 April 2006 (UTC)
You were still able to edit after I placed the protection, so I guess you will no longer be affected by it. Protection removed, since the page has calmed down a bit. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:39, 3 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks Caf3623 01:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:08, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Deleting warning

Zscout370, removing warnings from their talk pages is vandalism, no? User:Stollery removed warnings after he made personal attacks and then an administrator told Stollery that he could do anything he wanted with his talk page[4] Is this right and acceptable behavior from admin? --Nikitchenko 02:45, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

If an admin said it was ok, then I will not wheel war over it. It is usually bad form to do it, but keep in mind that if this happens on a constant basis, then go to WP:AN/I. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:53, 4 April 2006 (UTC)


Thanks for helping to deal with User:PoolGuy's sockpuppet. --Nlu (talk) 15:52, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Just doing my job. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:00, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks (four times!)

Thanks a lot for blocking all four recent sockpuppets of Jeffrey Vernon Merkey. We waste too much time tracking his never-ending antics. Can I ping you in case he starts vandalizing the same pages again? Friendly Neighbour 21:17, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Of course. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:19, 4 April 2006 (UTC)

Thanks also. Just a thought about Merkey's potential return.'s+you+Jeff

Re: Nobody believe's you Jeff
April 4 2006 at 8:40 PM Asgaya  (Login AsgayaGigagei) 

Response to Nobody believe's you Jeff 

"Plenty more accounts there moron. I've got hundreds of IPs and dozens of accounts and edit from them all.
Hey, you aren't one of us. You're one of those anal/oral copulaters from San Francisco.
Get back to your board lil'old gay college boy.


Merkey's a sweetheart, isn't he? -- talks_to_birds 02:18, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

As with WoW, PoolGuy, ZS, WoC and Squidward, we get the same threats all of the time. This is nothing new so I expect it. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:23, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Could you, for good measure, clear and block User talk: page where this socketpuppet wages a revert war (personal attacks etc.) with some users who should be wiser than that. Thanks in advance. Friendly Neighbour 18:45, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

Done. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:07, 5 April 2006 (UTC)
Deleting it instead of blocking protecting had the drawback of killing its history but in this case we don't probably need any more evidence anyway. Thanks again. Friendly Neighbour 20:37, 5 April 2006 (UTC)

New Jeff Merkey sockpuppets

[[5]] Sint_Holo (talk · contribs · logs) and his IP address (talk · contribs · logs).

TempusFugit (talk · contribs · logs) Is also around using RCU to make sockpuppet allegations.

Thanks for your attention. Vigilant 07:28, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

Warning. Wikimedia and I have resolved our issues. See WP:RCU on this user Vigilant. He has engaged in DOS attacks against Wikipedia and its interwiki sites. Evidence on display. His name is Sean Crandall and his IP address is being used to hack. Sint Holo 08:16, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
Please provide evidence of your no longer being a indef blocked user who is curcumventing his block with WP:SOCK. Please provide proof that I am who you say I am. Please provide proof that I am hacking anything. You are the one under the indef block, you are the one making the acusations, you have the burden of proof and extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. cue cricket_chirp.wav Vigilant 18:22, 18 April 2006 (UTC)
The three accounts (Sint Holo (talk · contribs), (talk · contribs) and TempusFugit (talk · contribs)) are definitely Jeff Merkey's sockpuppets. All the telltale symptoms are here. He tries to get banned everyone who track his accounts. He deletes discussion on his talk page and links to its archives. He again crusades on the Cherokee article discussion page. I believe all three accounts should be blocked. However be carefull because he already started bogus user checks against us to create some aura of respectability around him (but was extravagant enough to do it with a brand new account!). Genarally I tend to observe him untill he start misbehaving really bad. Now he is still a borderline case. Therefore you need to decide yourself if the situation is ripe for blocking this new batch of his sockpuppets. Friendly Neighbour 19:11, 18 April 2006 (UTC)


Hey there!

Love your ribbons! Although I sorely miss the Cool Cucumber Ribbon! I do like the other ones, but like your standard size more. If you have some spare time, could you add one?

Cheers, The Minister of War (Peace) 08:38, 9 April 2006 (UTC)

I could do that. The reason why I do not have that ribbon displayed is that I did not get the award yet, so that is usually when I draw ribbons. The size that I have my ribbons in is 72 pixels wide and 30 pixels high. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:55, 9 April 2006 (UTC)
Okidoki. Thing is, the newly created Barnstar Brigade uses ribbons. I was trying to standardise towards your ribbons, but the lack of Cucumber meant that we defaulted to AzaToth's instead! But I guess they're wonderful as well. CHeers, The Minister of War (Peace) 07:43, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I heard of this group before. Personally, I have no clue why people are rushing to use my ribbons and not AzaToth's. I know AzaToth is a good drawer and a good Wikipedian, but I seriously would like to ask: why me? Is it because I used them first? Is it because mine are a cleaner design or smaller? User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 13:27, 10 April 2006 (UTC)
I can only speak for myself, but I like em better because they are indeed a bit clearer, and lighter. The other look a bit smudged to my eyes (no offence AzaToth!). The other thing I like is that their uniformity means they are more easily used next to each other, like on your talk page. The design of the other ones is much more distinct, which means they look better as a stand-alone. For example, compare them to how AzaToth uses them on the bottom of his own userpage, listing them rather than stacking them. The Minister of War (Peace) 12:13, 11 April 2006 (UTC)
Ok, fair enough. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 13:35, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

National anthem of Russia

Congratulations on "National anthem of Russia" becoming a featured article. Green Giant 19:31, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:41, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Palestinian Flag

it's the correct one. check the fotw site, or any number of flag sites. the angle of the triangle on hoise is to be 45 degrees so that the width is half the height. the jordanian flag, which looks similar, goes in much deeper. i believe that one is based on the width of the flag. i'd have put this in SVG but i dont have the proper software anymore. this particular version i made in illustrator. --Yung Wei 22:08, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

I'll make it; that is why I asked. What I can do is just alter the version that I created earlier and make the triangle smaller, as you put it. I just need to find time and get around to it. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 23:39, 10 April 2006 (UTC)

Re: Mexican elections

Go to [6] and scroll to the bottom of the page. The left column of the table has the new redistricting by state. The maps are somewhat crude, but they should give your gf an idea of what district she belongs to. Hope this helps. -- Rune Welsh | ταλκ 11:23, 11 April 2006 (UTC)

Reply from JPD

Hi Zach! Yes, I am Jonathan, and I'm glad the Australian flag article featured. I guess it would be good even if I were someone else ;-) JPD (talk) 00:24, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Ok. :) Well, I am glad that I ran into you on here, another FOTW'er that is seeing what is going on at Wikipedia. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:47, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

References to Star Trek in The Simpsons

Not sure if you care or not but the above article is being discussed for deletion again, since I saw you voted in the last one I thought you would like to know. Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/References_to_Star_Trek_in_The_Simpsons_2 EnsRedShirt 02:39, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

I will not hurt my feelings if the article is deleted or not, I have bigger fish to fry here. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:48, 13 April 2006 (UTC)

Remove the link to User talk:adnghiem501 at User talk:Zscout370/Archive 5

I'm going to ask you to remove the only following written thingy below:

([[User talk:adnghiem501|talk]])

from your protected archive #5 talk page immediately. I've done this on all other pages that linked to my old talk page. -- ADNghiem501 10:09, 16 April 2006 (UTC)

Oh, the only link which is appearing is User_talk:Zscout370/Archive_5#Image:Sag22.jpg. Make sure to type the edit summary below when you remove the link from my old signature, with a minor edit:

rm links to User:adnghiem501's inactive talk page, from signatures

And don't worry about the plural words in the edit summary what I provided. I removed more than one link from each page. -- ADNghiem501 19:42, 20 April 2006 (UTC)


I've indefinitely blocked one or two of the people whose sole purpose for editing Wikipedia appeared to be pestering Merkey and his socks. I'm giving Merkey (now using User:Sint Holo) the benefit of the doubt for now as he seems to be trying to do decent stuff. I'm ignoring that fact that he's been listed as banned in the past. Consequently I've blocked him and Vigilant for only 24 hours for brawling.

I always submit my blocks and unblocks to review, and as you have dealt with this situation in the past I thought you might like to take a look. There is currently a discussion of this near the bottom of WP:AN/I, my edits to it being these: [7] [8] [9] [10] [11]. --Tony Sidaway 22:26, 18 April 2006 (UTC)

User Sint Holo has been indefinitely blocked by Jimbo Wales himself as a sockpuppet of the banned user Gadugi. I do hope this means that admins may again use the Wikipedia rules about his sockpuppets. He still has two known unblocked ones. They are (talk · contribs) the IP number Sint Holo used when not logged and TempusFugit (talk · contribs) used to stalk the people who remember his previous sockpuppets' antics. Should I post this on the Admins Noticeboard or is this comment enough to block those sockpuppets. This is a good time as Merkey usually gets a meltdown (personal attack & legal threats) after losing an account. Friendly Neighbour 06:57, 20 April 2006 (UTC)
This problem has been solved. At least for now. Have a good Ortodox Easter! Friendly Neighbour 17:52, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

More legal threats

You blocked User:Tommysun before for legal threats. Well, he's back at it. [12]. Can you have a word with him? --ScienceApologist 16:53, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Your bot is now approved

Hey, Zscout!

Your bot approval request has been accepted! Linuxbeak (drop me a line) 19:37, 22 April 2006 (UTC)

Starfleet ranks and barnstar ribbons

Whats up with those? --Cat out 19:49, 2 May 2006 (UTC)


For the Missing Wikipedians list: why are you leaving? --maru (talk) contribs 04:15, 6 May 2006 (UTC)

Yeah, why? I must've missed that somehow... Bah, all the good ones are leaving one after the other. —Nightstallion (?) 08:20, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Sure you're not even the least bit biased there, Nightstallion? --maru (talk) contribs 18:56, 12 June 2006 (UTC)
Entirely within the realm of possibility. —Nightstallion (?) 22:20, 14 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikimedia Foundation

Hi Zach. I noticed you are requesting an account at the Wikimedia Foundation. Coincidentally enough, so am I! In my request, Anthere asked if I could name some people that would speak up for me. I listed your name there, I hope you don't mind. I'll take the opportunity to wish you a good luck in getting your account. This way, we can look forward to cooperating at the Wikimedia website as well. Redux 02:45, 13 May 2006 (UTC)

Clive D

I found some personal details on Talk:Clive Davis while browsing the history. Apparently a reader inserted a personal address and phone number. Should this page be deleted, then restored? chantessy 17:17, 14 May 2006 (UTC)

Minor barnstar ribbon

Hey we are dying out here :) --Cat out 23:18, 22 May 2006 (UTC)

User warnings

Beaware of your understanding what is Vandalism and what is not. Addition of unwanted commercial links (spam) of non-English language in English page for serveral times is vandalism. Thanks. 00:25, 28 May 2006 (UTC)

Image:Armed forces red triangle badge.svg listed for deletion

An image or media file that you uploaded, Image:Armed forces red triangle badge.svg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Images and media for deletion. Please look there to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

Bkell (talk) 21:46, 31 May 2006 (UTC)


May I have a ribbon for the minor barnstar? --Cat out 05:35, 4 June 2006 (UTC)

Or the Image:BarnSakura.png? ^_^ --Cat out 01:45, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

Lares Flag

Thanks for the image. There is something wrong however, The 1868 Lares flag knitted by Mariana Bracetti had a yellow star. The Lares flag with the white star is the flag which was later adopted by the municipality of Lares as their official flag. See: Flags of Puerto Rico. But, thank you again for the thought. Tony the Marine 06:29, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Ah. I'll correct it now. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:35, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Corrected. A little heads up, many of the Puerto Rico images will probably be redone in SVG in the next few weeks. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 06:42, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
  • It's really a strange coincidence that you mentioned that image to me because my ancesters (on my fathers side) are from Lares and participated in the 1868 revolt. This is not even mentioned in my User page and yet fate had you send me this particular image. Consider me among your Wiki friends. Tony the Marine 07:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)
Your welcome. The reason why I let you know is that you uploaded a gif version of the flag at Image:1868_Lares_Revolutionay_Flag.gif. I was originally supposed to leave the project in April of 2006, but Flags of the World, the website where you borrowed the flag image, is having a lot of their images being mis-used on Wikipedia. So, in a sense of loyalty to both projects, I came back to Wikipedia to do two things: get rid of FOTW images from Wikipedia, and to replace the images with public domain images drawn by me or others. I let you know about the SVG flag since you were the uploader of the gif image, and also a person who does great work on PR-related pages. I will create more images later, but I cannot keep my eyes open. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 07:27, 17 June 2006 (UTC)


Can you draw a large version of the coat of arms of Baku (from in the upper right corner) because the one I uploaded is obsolete? Thanks so much. --Brand спойт 13:34, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

your comment at FAR

Well, you stand as a noble Wikipedian for saying that! Many FAC contributors are stroppy, even abusive, in that situation. Thank you! Tony 15:22, 17 June 2006 (UTC)

Not a problem. I wrote Hero of Belarus in May of 2005, and from that article, to my last one about the Mexican and Russian anthems, I noticed that most FA's have become more detailed and there is a lot more people watching FAC now. I am not upset it is at FAR and FARC now; even if this was removed from the FA list, at least the article will still be on WP, still have 6 FA's on my belt, and once my main goal of flag drawing is complete, then I will go back to article writing. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 17:45, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Re MediaWiki account

Thanks, Zach. It seems my request hasn't been either fulfilled or denied too. Then again, things seem to move rather slowly at Meta. And plus the fact that the number of users with permission to create the accounts is severely limited. I too won't be pestering anyone over there to get it through. The list is there, when someone gets around to it, they'll get around to it and we'll hear about it. Thank you so much for your support in anycase :) Cheers, Redux 19:01, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: Surprise

Go right ahead. Denelson83 22:23, 18 June 2006 (UTC)

On your first and second archive

Can you please replace instances of [[Image:Ireland flag large.png]] with [[Image:Flag of Ireland.svg]] on your first and second archives? My bot was not capable of doing this automatically, since your archives are protected from editing. Thank you! —THIS IS MESSEDR with umlaut.pngOCKER (TALK) 01:36, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

I'll do it. Plus, it is good someone else is running a bot to replace flags. :) User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:38, 19 June 2006 (UTC)


So, you make flags eh? That's cool. I make flags aswell. -Frizzle

Yeah, drawing them is pretty neat. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 17:31, 19 June 2006 (UTC)

TfD nomination of Template:FOTWpic

Template:FOTWpic has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for Deletion page. Thank you. --h-stt !? 11:26, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Sound of the day

You expressed interest in WP:FSC, and as that didn't go anywhere, I think this might function as a workable intermediate step to building a "sound community" on Wikipedia.--Pharos 13:25, 20 June 2006 (UTC)

RCN Naval Jack swapping

Your recent automated run swapping rcnjack.png for Naval Jack of Canada.svg made a mess of about two dozen articles by putting an unresized image into their infoboxes. I fixed the ones I had watchlisted, but figured I should let you know to double check to if I missed anything, and adjust your automated script accordingly. Cheers. -Dawson 00:29, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

My script did not account for image sizes, and that was an error on my part. I will not adjust it, since I will try and switch most of the images by hand and not by my script. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:07, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: redrawing FOTW images

I was thinking of doing the same myself, but haven't managed to get round to it yet. Hopefully if I get some time in the next day or so I'll have a go at a few of the simpler ones. Grutness...wha? 01:39, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Go right ahead, I am fixing the flags at List of flags of Norway. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 01:42, 21 June 2006 (UTC)

Hi! Thank you very much for redrawing the Seychelles flags! Punkmorten 16:37, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

Your welcome. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 20:15, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

License tagging for Image:Royal Standard of the King of Lesotho.png

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Turks and Caicos Governor

Hi Zscout I just saw the flag for the T&C Governor, and I'd just want to tell you that Image:Flag of a British Governor (modern).svg's been changed to be in the correct proportions for the gold ring and the leaves, just in case you want to change anything. Also, the crown on the GG flag isn't mine, so no need to acknowledge me for it :D Yaddah 02:45, 22 June 2006 (UTC)

We can change it later, I am mostly trying to blast copyvios out of the water. But thanks for the heads up. The more drawers the better. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 02:48, 22 June 2006 (UTC)


that image i was talking about, last night on irc, i made a stub for it's creator: Dimitris Hantzopoulos. Thanks a lot man :) Project2501a 08:42, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

No problem. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 16:31, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

Nordisk Flaggsallskap

There was no reason for you to redirect this article and remove the image from the Nordic Cross flag article. The articles have been restored. Other members of the Federation internationale have their own articles and there is no reason the NF should not as well. Please do not make such drastic unilateral moves without discussion. Briangotts (Talk) (Contrib) 21:36, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

I mentioned about the image being non-commercial at the talk page of the Nordic cross flag. Ok about the restoring of the article. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:37, 23 June 2006 (UTC)

IFD thanks.

Thank you for following up on the IFD holes I'd left. I wasn't making the decisions, but out of curiosidt, how did you handle things? (Also, i'll keep going through january and stuff, similar patterns as the past stuff. -- Wirelain 18:09, 26 June 2006 (UTC)

A lot of the pictures that were handled in 2005 have been deleted and replaced by something else under the same name. If the picture is fair use but not used, I whacked it. If the picture is at the Commons now, I whack the copy at EN. If the picture is PD, but not encyclopedic, I got rid of it too. Now that images can be undeleted, I admitedly been shooting more and asking questions later. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 18:46, 26 June 2006 (UTC)
I was just trying to do my part for the backlog, as as i'm not an admin, I can't actually do any deleting or anything. But; i can go through and get rid of the redlinks, the obvious commons only listings and non-orphan listings. (leaving a small pile per month) -- Wirelain
No problem, I only manage to delete a few, since most of the images have changed since they were on IFD months ago. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 21:27, 7 July 2006 (UTC)

Isle of Man Lieutenant Gov. flag- Wrong filename!


You uploaded the flag of the Lieutenant Governor of the Isle of Man under the name of Image:Flag of the Governor of the Isle of Man.svg. This is incorrect, the Crown's representative on the Isle of Man is the Lieutenant Governor, not the Governor. Even though the Lieutenant Governor and the Governor do the same thing for the Overseas Territories and the Crown Dependencies, they are appointed though different agencies. I have moved the file to the Commons and renamed it. I hope this is OK. -- Thanks, Hoshie | Don't Tread on Me 04:51, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Dude, that's fine. Thanks for the heads up and apologies about the goof. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 05:08, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
It's ok. It seems that there was a Governor until the 1830's, so the confusion is understable. - Thanks, Hoshie | Don't Tread on Me 07:58, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
I screwed up since I was doing some Governor flags, and I just did not rename either when I saved the files or when I uploaded them. I probably will not run into those errors again since I am trying to knock out some more SVG flags other than British ensigns now. Plus, on a side note, did Havelock changed much since I left in May of 2005? I might be back in town next year, depending on what my dad does. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 08:02, 27 June 2006 (UTC)
Nothing much has changed in Havelock. There are plans to build a new Wal-Mart near the back gate. The brush is being cleared now. There was a big fire across the street from the Episcopal Church which destroyed a hair salon, tire shop, and a wrestling shop. Read more here. Besides that, everything is the same. - Thanks, Hoshie | Don't Tread on Me 21:21, 28 June 2006 (UTC)

Re: SVG issue

You are quite welcome, my friend. -- Denelson83 07:33, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Flags and copyright

Re Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/Log/2006_June_20#Template:FOTWpic: in an attempt to clarify and preserve as a reference for future similar cases, I have written Wikipedia:Copyright on emblems. Maybe you'd like to help improve and/or correct it? Lupo 08:46, 27 June 2006 (UTC)

Wow, pretty impressive. I can say for sure that what you wrote is pretty accurate. At FOTW: we are not stopping anyone from drawing flags, but a lot of people started to take the flags and do not abtribute us at all, so that is why some of them came here and said "We want this to end" and other expressed their concerns on ORTS on a few occasions. I can also state that the number of FOTW images have decreased again, but I still need to hunker down and just draw. User:Zscout370 (Return Fire) 15:21, 27 June 2006 (UTC)