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The articles marked with Template:India-agri-stub do not go to a stub category. Can you please look into. Thanks. Shyamsunder (talk) 10:38, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

I somehow missed this message, I'll create the stub cat and fix it. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 10:27, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Dravid

Yep, you're correct. —Aaroncrick (talk) 19:58, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

Ah, good. The CI scorecard doesn't carry a *, so I was wondering. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 21:26, 30 January 2010 (UTC)

You beat me with some more Indian related vandalism! :) —Aaroncrick (talk) 10:14, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Ha ha, I just finished a GA review and was starting another one, then decided to push that off and do some clean up instead :) BTW, good work on Ganguly, I have some comments that I'll type down on your TP in a day or two. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 10:17, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Excellent, fire away when you find the time. Anyway, I didn't do much with the article, Legolas2186 (talk · contribs) did 90%. —Aaroncrick (talk) 10:23, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks :) —Aaroncrick (talk) 09:07, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Your comments

Thanks for your comments. Shaivism is a branch of Hinduism that mentions Shiva as the supreme God; reference 82 mentions Yama as Yamaraj. Srikanta's views on karma are important and not mentioned in your citation. Your citation for Srikantha is not an authoritative source, as my reference. I appreciate your comments. I agree that more work is needed. Raj2004 (talk) 12:29, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

I know what Shaivism is, but the article doesn't provide any explanation to the lay reader on the context or philosophy; that was my comment (and this was an example, it's applicable to other sections too). I missed the Yamaraj bit, should have chosen a better example, sorry about that. As for Srikantha, I didn't provide any references, I was only commenting on the usability of the references within the article and also on context. Hope this clarifies. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 16:16, 1 February 2010 (UTC)

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It seems I've been away for some time - thanks for keeping an eye out. :) Hope all is well! Ncmvocalist (talk) 04:04, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Just saw this, I seem to be missing messages on my talk page with alarming frequency! He went to arbcom btw. Hope all's well with you. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 09:47, 5 February 2010 (UTC)

Thank YOU!

Thank you for you quick action in blocking 207.6.244.90. I've been following him around for a while now and I was getting tired. I'm not sure exactly what that ranting was he kept posting, bizarre at that. Where do people get this stuff?! petiatil ^{»user»speak} 09:21, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Yeah, this was some strange stuff. Probably copied from some forum somewhere. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 09:25, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Munneswaram GA

I've tried to answer all the q's per your comments. Pls look. Thnx Taprobanus (talk) 19:40, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Will get back to it tonight. cheers. –SpacemanSpiff 21:29, 3 February 2010 (UTC)

Jats

Hey, bit new to editing Wikipedia, so I apologize if I'm not following the correct guidelines. I've been seeing the description of Jats change virtually every month. I was unaware of the whole Indo-Scythian background for some time, but did a lot of outside research (meaning not Wikipedia), and it's pretty clear that Jats are descended from Indo-Scythians and Indo-Aryans. Recent DNA studies have also helped to prove this, and an Indian researcher had attempted to visit Ukraine to study the origin of Jats, but was prevented from doing so (I believe from funding denial and ridicule). I've very much found Indians very loathe to call themselves anything but Indo-Aryan - some kind of weird pride in the word Aryan. I was slave to this for some time too. Doing a very quick run-down search on Google Scholar left me with a slew of articles supporting the Indo-Scythian viewpoint, some of which had not been listed on Wikipedia:

http://www.springerlink.com/content/lw5v58gm16723786/ http://www.springerlink.com/content/k3r48177278105w0/ http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6VBF-3SWT27W-4&_user=10&_coverDate=01%2F31%2F1997&_rdoc=1&_fmt=high&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1192748881&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000050221&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=10&md5=71d7cfb87d376e6c202037335ed6e417

One article I did not link mentions the Rajputs as descendants of Indo-Scythians - Rajputs and Jats are of the same ethnic stock (I'm a descendant of Pritviraj Chauhan on my mother's side - he was a Rajput); the split between the two was in political/social disagreements (one primarily being the use of sati pratha). There are more links that I did not post. Also, Jatland (a website by and for Jats) has this:

http://www.jatland.com/home/Indo-Scythian_origin

So hopefully I might have convinced you somewhat of the ridiculousness of the absolute disregard of most evidence pointing to the Indo-Scythian descent. It's mentioned MUCH throughout the article itself, but people keep removing it from the introduction. I haven't removed the Indo-Aryan references from the introduction on Jats, because that would be false. Jats are a mixture of both groups - virtually no race/ethnic group is "pure" or unmixed. This is what I had been editing it to say. Only once did I see this correctly shown - it seems to be an edit war going on between Indo-Scythian origin supporters and Indo-Aryan supporters. Clearly, both are wrong, and both are right. It isn't one or the other, it's both. I've seen it devoid of Indo-Aryan references, and I've seen it devoid of Indo-Scythian references (like now).

Any cooperation on this matter would be much appreciated. —Preceding unsigned comment added by PR-0927 (talk • contribs) 01:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

The Jatland site is not a reliable source. As for the others, most of them use the Major Tod bit as their source, however subsequent research has not shown that to be the case. This is a discussion for the article talk page, where you can discuss the sourcing. Regular editors of the article will discuss there. –SpacemanSpiff 01:13, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Spaceman, in case you haven't seen this already: Origin of the Jat people, which seems to be the source of those first sentence source dump. Abecedare (talk) 01:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Ah, hadn't noticed; that page was proposed for a smerge, so hasn't had the requisite clean-up.—SpacemanSpiff

Was hoping you guys might give a look at the discussion topic I posted on the "Jat people" talk page. Hopefully you'll include the mention of Indo-Scythian lineage, as evidenced by numerous sources in the article and by the page that Abecedare is mentioning, aside from the news ones I mentioned in my post on the talk page. PR-0927 (talk) 05:25, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I will do so within the next two days. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 06:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Thanks, I appreciate it. PR-0927 (talk) 06:31, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

Harish Gaonkar

It says that he got Ph.D. from UC, but that is not verfied. UC has several campuses. Thanks. --DoNotTellDoNotAsk (talk) 18:06, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

If that's the case, then the citation needed tag is enough, don't add random commentary all over.—SpacemanSpiff

Tamil status

Hey Spiffy, do you think I'll be accused of POV editing, favoring my Tamil brothers, with this edit, which places them first in this set of examples? Drmies (talk) 18:45, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

I appreciate your bravery in dwelling into such contentious waters. As for the official languages, both Hindi and English are. I'd think that most of those examples need to go. If any I'd say Bengali or Telugu should stay (based on population) and Kashmir (based on number of official languages). Also, the official languages are Hindi and English, the constitution mandates English as an official language until Hindi is accepted as the sole official language. Some legalese in all this, that's where the POV gets in to these articles. See Talk:India#National language for a recent discussion. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 20:19, 4 February 2010 (UTC)

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Thanks for the intervention

Thanks for the intervention against VikingsnMoss. As much fun as I have when a vandal takes a personal interest in me, changing my user page to suggest I was a nazi was a little bit much. Again, thanks for the speedy response to my vandalism report.Gnowor^Talk2Me_{did wha?} 07:16, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

No worries, all in a day's work. Don't let the vandals and POV pushers get to you. cheers. —SpacemanSpiff 07:48, 6 February 2010 (UTC)

Deletion of Sihag

Sir, I urge you to delete my account Aryanjat on wikipedia because I'm highly unsatisfied with the admins,,,mods here. I'm new to wiki and was trying to build new articles,and edit existing ones with my concern but whenever I edit or crete new page,,someone or the other revert it or delete it,,,sad thing is this that I was editing and creating pages with valid references...and even after providing references all that was done. So,plz.,with due respect,delete my account on wiki as this is my last visit. Thank you for injustice!! (Aryanjat (talk) 08:31, 6 February 2010 (UTC)) Aryanjat (talk) 02:09 IST, 6 February 2010 (UTC)