Talk:Josephus

Webpage about Flavius Josephus - Was Joseph of Arimathea, Flavius Josephus

Hi. Revently I posted an external link to a page about an elaborate discussion about Flavius Josephus being Joseph of Arimathea (The biblical figure that took Jesus from the cross and burried him in his land). It is a most interesting and revolutionary piece about early chrisianity, and the role of Josephus in it. Unfortunatelly the link was discarded as a spamlink. I really think this link has an encyclopedic value for this page, and it does not violate any Wikipedia rule. I hope it will be agreed to put the link back. --Controle2 (talk) 16:46, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

We don't link to absurd tinfoilhattery, so no.--Scott Mac (Doc) 17:40, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

What exactly do you mean with absurd tinfoilhattery? I think there is nothing absurd about it. And who is we? You are only one editor if I'm not mistaken --Controle2 (talk) 18:11, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

See tinfoil hat. It is shorthand for some incredible theory, to which no serious scholar would give any credence. Josephus was almost certainly not born at the time of the crucifixion.--Scott Mac (Doc) 18:25, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I totally agree with you, but that is also what it discussed on the linkpage. Josephus indeed was not born in the year 33. It's true to all the facts we know about Josephus, and by consistently holding on to these facts some amazing conclusions can be drawn. It is extremely well grounded, and truely interesting I tell you. Did you see the link? --Controle2 (talk) 18:36, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

I did. But unless there is some evidence that the theory is being discussed among scholars, we would not link to it. "Interesting" is not a criterion.--Scott Mac (Doc) 18:59, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

This is from a dutch book translated partly in English: "From: Jesus the Nazorian. A study on the historicity of Jesus and the origin of Christianity.. Pierre Krijbolder, Amsterdam 1976, Scientific Publisher." It is not just a theory made up by someone random, but a researched and published item. I'm not sure if today it is discussed among scolars, I would have to research it. But would this be enough reason to put it on wikipedia? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Controle2 (talk • contribs) 19:22, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

A Dutch book is quoted on that website, but there is no evidence that any serious scholar is discussing this crazy theory. Indeed, I can assure you they are not.--Scott Mac (Doc) 19:34, 9 May 2009 (UTC)

Here is a website dedicated to Krijbolder and his book "Jesus the Nazorian" or in dutch "Jezus de Nazoreeër". It's an english website. --Controle2 (talk) 12:08, 10 May 2009 (UTC)

"Yosef" was a common name at that time, like "Yashua" (anglicized is "Joshua" or "Jesus"). Just because there's a prominent-ish figure in the NT shares a name with a prominent historian doesn't mean they are the same, as fun and possible attractive (to some poor types) as it might be; besides, the details of the lives and persons of that of Arimathea and the historian contradict such a theory's claims, and just because "Scientific Publisher" is affixed to the name of some work, it doesn't mean the work is actually reliable or trustworthy; the work in question is "Jezus de Nazoreeër. Een studie over de historiciteit van Jezus en de oorsprong van het christendom", and its author is neither a historian nor a theologian or, basically, credentialed in any way to write upon that which he does. That author seems to be of the type attractive to varieties of demographics week-minded and eager for sensations and what's novel, speculative, rather than critical, examining, evidential, investigative: at least that's what it looks like from reviewing his works and claims in various areas; he's just not mainstream, nor is he a brilliant maverick. "Jezus de Nazoreeër" is just not a reliable source.

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15:11, 14 May 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheResearchPersona (talk • contribs)

Added some brief background information and corrected a spelling error. References provided as well. --Tatoranaki (talk) 17:18, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

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poop is awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!I love eating it. I love pooping on the floor!!!!!!!!!!! —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.20.165.230 (talk) 20:37, 16 February 2010 (UTC)

Needs specificity

"Beginning with the creation according to Genesis, he outlines Jewish history. Abraham taught science to the Egyptians..."

This is sort of confusing - and not sourced. He certainly did not teach the scientific method, which is the foundation of science as we know it today, so if anyone knows what the text says exactly and can describe it more... accurately, that would be great. 98.168.192.162 (talk) 04:06, 26 February 2010 (UTC)