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A very important contribution is made by Khurram Zaid about the age of Madam Aishah, a reference of research is also provided with the contribution, the research suggests that the correct '''age of Madam Aishah at her time of marriage was 19''' years not 9. No one should undo or delete my contribution except with the trackable PROOFS that the references are false.
A very important contribution is made by Khurram Zaid about the age of Madam Aishah, a reference of research is also provided with the contribution, the research suggests that the correct '''age of Madam Aishah at her time of marriage was 19''' years not 9. No one should undo or delete my contribution except with the trackable PROOFS that the references are false.

The pedophile fucked a 6 year old, get over it. The whole religion is made by and for child fuckers. He put his old veined dick and forced in this crying childs unviolated vagina. Everyone knows this, stop hiding it.
There is no religion in islam, as there is no religion with christ.
Do the research, mohammed is a child rapist and all who follow him accept this as good and well.--[[Special:Contributions/82.181.195.240|82.181.195.240]] ([[User talk:82.181.195.240|talk]]) 23:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC)



===Some thought-provoking suggestions:===
===Some thought-provoking suggestions:===

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Aishah's age was 19 at marriage time.

A very important contribution is made by Khurram Zaid about the age of Madam Aishah, a reference of research is also provided with the contribution, the research suggests that the correct age of Madam Aishah at her time of marriage was 19 years not 9. No one should undo or delete my contribution except with the trackable PROOFS that the references are false.

The pedophile fucked a 6 year old, get over it. The whole religion is made by and for child fuckers. He put his old veined dick and forced in this crying childs unviolated vagina. Everyone knows this, stop hiding it. There is no religion in islam, as there is no religion with christ. Do the research, mohammed is a child rapist and all who follow him accept this as good and well.--82.181.195.240 (talk) 23:46, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]


Some thought-provoking suggestions:

According to a research made on "Aishah's marriage with Prophet Muhammad and her true age" [1], by Ruqaiyyah Waris Maqsood, Some have suggested that Aishah was born in 610 CE, some 11 or 12 years before the Migration to Madinah in 622, which would mean that at the time of her full marriage she would have been around 14 years old, and not 9.

Some have suggested that she was born in 605 CE and thus when Muhammad attained the Prophethood she would have already been 5 years old, 17 in the year of Hijrah, and 19 years old when she took full marriage.

Another suggestion is that at the time of her nikah Aishah was 16 years old (sittah ashra). It is quite possible that the later authors, while quoting the figures, mistakenly omitted ‘ashar (ten in Arabic), thus changing 16 to 6 years old. [1]

(Khurram Zaid 05:49, 8 November 2009 (UTC))

You're not getting this. That site is not a reliable source. No section on any Wikipedia article should ever be titled "Some thought-provoking suggestions." This is not the place to push your point of view. Stop adding this text. — HelloAnnyong (say whaaat?!) 05:53, 8 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Marriageable age

Hello, does Islam have any rules about marriageable age?

The marriageable age in Judaism is 3 for a girl, if the father gives consent; I was wondering if there were any corresponding rules set down by Islam about this subject, or whether it has no opinion, and just takes the local cultural norm of the marriageable age.

I'm posting this question here because lots of people make a big fuss about Aisha's age at marriage, so it seemed like the place people might know.

If there is a fixed marriageable age, in Islam, would someone be able to mention it at marriageable age#By religion. If Islamic rules about this are more nuanced, or complex, would someone be able to give a brief explanation at Talk:Child marriage in Judaism?

(we are trying to ascertain whether Judaism is the only religion that sets rules about the age for marriage, rather than just going with whatever the local cultural norms/laws are)

Thanks. Newman Luke (talk) 23:04, 10 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

There are no specific rules for when to get married in Islam as layed down by the Qur'an or the Hadith and the scholars are not united on the age either. Most scholars would say it is when a person has reached 'maturity', which generally means one a person has reached puberty. However, some scholars allow marraige at any age, for example, a family may decide to marry their three-year-old son to his three-year old cousin. This is identified by most as purely culteral though. All scholars agree that a marraige cannot be consumated until puberty has been reached on both sides. Hope that helps.--IsaKazimi (talk) 08:19, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]
Hm... not quite 100% correct, I'm afraid. Judaism does not actually set a lower limit on marriageable age, and the three-year-old rule is an entirely different concept. It would seem that several different concepts are being confused here, but this is not the place to go in depth about it, so I'll just refer any interested parties to an appropriate source of Jewish law (and bear in mind that the articles on Wikipedia, as of this date, carry the same errors listed here). RavShimon (talk) 17:16, 11 November 2009 (UTC)[reply]

More importantly, Aisha was under contract to be married to another prior to her marriage to the last prophet. This is often overlooked and really makes the whole conversation a moot one to begin with. Lilac 3/14/10```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilac Cotton (talkcontribs) 18:01, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Lack of citation

On the Veiws section there is not one citation. If it is a universaly known fact that Aisha had contempt for Ahl'ul'Bayt, some solid, NON SECTARIAN citations should be given. Can't find any....Hmm. Maybe thets because 90% of muslims dont believe that and it's not reflected in the works of their scholars either.24.22.94.118 (talk) 22:19, 2 December 2009 (UTC) Gibbon mentioned in his "The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire" that Aisha had a contempt for Hazrat Ali.--hassan 07:02, 23 December 2009 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassan572 (talkcontribs) [reply]


This article has been written from a Shite point of view & their hatred of Aisha is well known. She never hated Uthman - in fact she helped raise the army to catch his murderers. This article needs to be corrected. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.169.62.38 (talk) 19:46, 28 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I take issue with that. The whole point of Sunni Islam aims at covering up details rather than relating verifiable information. When you say "most" muslims obviously you are referring to "most" Sunnis whom you regard to have the upper hand in this. The point of Wiki is to provide accurate information and if that information violates a Sunni, that constitutes for you and those 90% you suggest, a corruption of Islam. All it is really is an expose of the lies and coverups supported by mostly Sunni regimes who inflicted oppression on people who didn't uphold their political offices. Lilac 3/14/10```` —Preceding unsigned comment added by Lilac Cotton (talkcontribs) 18:04, 14 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

The Death of Hazrat Aisha

Tarikh-e-Ibne Khuldun states that Hazrat Aisha was killed by Marwan and his family.Simon Ockley in his "The History of Saracens" holds Muwayia responsible for the death of Hazrat Ayesha--hassan 06:59, 23 December 2009 (UTC). —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hassan572 (talkcontribs) 07:06, 20 December 2009 (UTC)[reply]

  1. ^ Madam Ayeshah married Prophet Muhammad when she was 19 years old and not 9 [2]