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That's surprising cross section. I thought he was good at being NPOV and a few of those had pretty contentious sections. I hope that energy he has gets put to good work somewhere. I WISH I had some of that energy. Is he forever banned from Wikipedia? Thanks for the response. [[User:Alatari|Alatari]] ([[User talk:Alatari|talk]]) 07:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
That's surprising cross section. I thought he was good at being NPOV and a few of those had pretty contentious sections. I hope that energy he has gets put to good work somewhere. I WISH I had some of that energy. Is he forever banned from Wikipedia? Thanks for the response. [[User:Alatari|Alatari]] ([[User talk:Alatari|talk]]) 07:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well, right now he is community banned, and I anticipate the ban will remain in place for a very extended period (years as opposed to weeks or months), particularly as the socking occurred over at least a 4 year period. Nonetheless, we have seen previously banned users return and do good work after other situations, so I won't profess to say that this is a permanent situation. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker#top|talk]]) 15:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)
:Well, right now he is community banned, and I anticipate the ban will remain in place for a very extended period (years as opposed to weeks or months), particularly as the socking occurred over at least a 4 year period. Nonetheless, we have seen previously banned users return and do good work after other situations, so I won't profess to say that this is a permanent situation. [[User:Risker|Risker]] ([[User talk:Risker#top|talk]]) 15:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)

== Possible Sock puppetry, please help ==

Dear Risker,

I have strong reasons to believe that [[User:Assyria 90]] and [[User:Destudent]] are Sock Puppets of [[User:Shmayo]]. Their comment on [[Talk:Assyrian_people#Trial_Naming_Poll|this page]] came just minutes apart after more that 18 hours of Shmayo last activity, all to handle a single issue. Those other accounts have been basically idle, and just awoke at the voting stage of some suggestion in the above mentioned page. Please help verifying this issue, and please let me know what you find out.<br>
Best Regards,--[[User:Tisqupnaia2010|Tisqupnaia2010]] ([[User talk:Tisqupnaia2010|talk]]) 18:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)

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Useful things for me to remember or I will never find them again, plus archive links
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Messages below please

Very sorry to hear of your loss, Risker. Bishonen | talk 18:55, 21 March 2010 (UTC).[reply]

Thanks, Bishonen. Certainly puts this website into perspective. Risker (talk) 19:27, 21 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Strategic Planning followup

Risker, thanks for your fantastic contributions to last night's strategic planning office hours. There's some followup at the strategy wiki. I hope you'll join us there and continue to share your thoughts! Philippe Beaudette, Facilitator, Strategy Project (talk) 18:54, 31 March 2010 (UTC)[reply]

RfPP

Hi Risker, there's been a request on RfPP that Template:Administrator review be unprotected, partly on the grounds that it's not transcluded on many pages. As the protecting admin, do you have any objection? SlimVirgin talk contribs 05:53, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Thanks. SlimVirgin talk contribs 06:05, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for letting me know, SlimVirgin. I've downgraded editing protection to semi-protection; Gary King makes a reasonable point, and there should be no issue with knowledgeable community members editing this template. Anything with the word "administrator" in it, however, seems to eventually become a target of certain vandals, so I've left full move protection in place. I've also commented at WP:RFPP. Risker (talk) 06:07, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I agree, thanks for sorting it out. SlimVirgin talk contribs 06:10, 7 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

James Nguyen article

Hello, I want to ask, why cannot an article about James Nguyen (the director of Birdemic: Shock and Terror) cannot be created? He, and the movie in question, was mentioned quite a lot of times in various newspapers. --Have a nice day. Running 22:25, 12 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Is there a guideline on what is to be included in an article?

WARNING: this question has relation with the Arbcom case about Gibraltar, but it has a much wider scope (that's why I post it directly to you). In case you think it should go to the Arbcom workshop (or wait until later) please tell me.

Hi,

I see that you think that one of the main problems in the case is "fact vs opinion". I completely agree, but in a very specific way. Most facts are agreed by almost everybody but we have very different opinions regarding which ones should be included in the article. I have seen that this is something quite common in controversial articles. I have looked for some guidelines on this question, but have not found any that are directly relevant: WP:NOTABILITY explicitly does "not directly limit the content of articles" (it only affects whole stand alone articles) and WP:NPOV deals with balancing viewpoints such as "POV A says that X is white and POV B says that it is black" (not with whether some undisputed fact should be in the article).

The problem with this type of disputes, with only our opinions to guide us, is that they can often lead to accusations of censorship, bad faith, and lots of frustration.

I have proposed some kind of +/- objective benchmark using the number of mentions in reputed secondary sources: if an issue is well over the benchmark set by other issues undisputedly in the article, then it can probably go in; if it is well below, then it's hard to justify its inclusion. I think it would save us a lot of time, "blood, tears, toil and sweat". But maybe it is completely out of place for some reason or maybe there's a guideline that already deals with this (and I have not been able to find it - which is something plausible and then I apologise for wasting your time).

My question: is there a guideline dealing directly with this problem? if there isn't, maybe there should be one?

Thanks. -- Imalbornoz (talk) 07:42, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

His work intersected with mine somewhere in the past and I can't remember where. Since he's banned how can I refresh my memory? He's been extremely active since 2003 and going through his contribution log 50 at a time will take hours and hours. I know I corresponded with him on his talk page... He contributed through this account alone more than I will do in my lifetime. I wonder where some editors get the time to do all they do. How can you feed yourself and edit Wikipedia as much as some do? I thought he was a decent fellow and guess I'm looking to adjust my regards to him. Should I mourn his banning? Alatari (talk) 08:15, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Here's a quick list of the articles that both you and Altenmann edited.[6] That might help to narrow things down. As to Altenmann's character, I wouldn't venture to say, but the majority of the 150,000 or so edits were very good and improved the encyclopedia. It's just that the problematic ones were problems in a very specific way. Risker (talk) 12:04, 15 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

That's surprising cross section. I thought he was good at being NPOV and a few of those had pretty contentious sections. I hope that energy he has gets put to good work somewhere. I WISH I had some of that energy. Is he forever banned from Wikipedia? Thanks for the response. Alatari (talk) 07:39, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, right now he is community banned, and I anticipate the ban will remain in place for a very extended period (years as opposed to weeks or months), particularly as the socking occurred over at least a 4 year period. Nonetheless, we have seen previously banned users return and do good work after other situations, so I won't profess to say that this is a permanent situation. Risker (talk) 15:49, 17 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Possible Sock puppetry, please help

Dear Risker,

I have strong reasons to believe that User:Assyria 90 and User:Destudent are Sock Puppets of User:Shmayo. Their comment on this page came just minutes apart after more that 18 hours of Shmayo last activity, all to handle a single issue. Those other accounts have been basically idle, and just awoke at the voting stage of some suggestion in the above mentioned page. Please help verifying this issue, and please let me know what you find out.
Best Regards,--Tisqupnaia2010 (talk) 18:57, 19 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]