Talk:Vince Lombardi

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• Books written, Vince Lombardi never wrote a book as far as I know. Both books, "What It Takes to Be #1: Vince Lombardi on Leadership" and "The Lombardi Rules: 26 Lessons from Vince Lombardi - the World's Greatest Coach" were written by his son Vince Lombardi Jr.--92.206.32.39 (talk) 18:07, 25 October 2009 (UTC)

• Questionable assertion, The assertation that it is questionable whether Lombardi actually ever said, "Winning isn't everything. It's the only thing" is spurious. We know that Lombardi said it. His use of these exact words are recorded for history by several contemporaneous sources including first-hand accounts by his players, by journalists - and by Lombardi himself in a 1968 motivational film, "Second Effort," produced for the business community and featuring Lombardi. The film includes a scene in a stadium press box with actor Ron Masak playing a bumbling salesman and feeding Lombardi the line, "But winning isn't everything." Lombardi responds, "You're absolutely right. Winning isn't everything, I'ts the only thing. Late in his career, Lombardi became somewhat embarrassed by the implications of the quote, and thus began a campaign of revisionism by his admirers and by Lombardi himself. This is where the revised versions of the quote originated.

page 365 of When Pride Still Mattered, Lombardi "... papered the locker room walls with motivational aphorisms.. One of the maxims later came to be regarded as the essence of his philosophy: 'Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing.' What exactly he meant by that, indeed whether he believed it or even said it, has been a matter of debate ever since." —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.7 (talk) 17:20, 28 November 2010 (UTC)

• Questionable assertion, Is there any support for the assertion that "The rebuilt Lambeau Field no longer faces the Lombardi Avenue side, but still uses the address as it's more financially beneficial to their bottom line."?

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Is the "Lombardi Principle" that "the best defense is a good offense"? 66.19.86.46 (talk) 23:45, 18 April 2009 (UTC)

Incorrect math?

I'm not sure if official NFL win percentiles follow different rounding rules or something, but I think the previous one was incorrect. This was the original:

"Lombardi went on to accomplish a 106–34–6 record as head coach (.750, discarding ties as was the NFL policy); and he never suffered a losing season."

I checked multiple times and 106 wins out of a total 146 games is 72.6 percent. (106/146 = 0.7260)

I changed it to a rounded .73, and basing the correction solely on math knowledge, hope I was right in doing so. Please correct if I was mistaken. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 70.249.209.57 (talk) 06:03, 15 April 2010 (UTC)

It is at 75% (106/140) if you discard ties...as was the NFL policy at the time. 66.202.32.118 (talk) 19:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

"In a scant nine years as a head coach, Lombardi had a 141-39-4 record..." http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1082142/1/index.htm The packers played 18 exhibition games from 1959-1961, and 6 preseason games in 1962 according to Maraniss. So that record now looks legit to me. It probably should be at the very least listed in external links 66.234.33.7 (talk)

Rams

His Senior Year, the 1936 Rams...okay there is no mention of Rams before this. This needs work. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.7 (talk) 00:27, 1 December 2010 (UTC) \\I

It is not really mentioned that much but the fact that he was 'undersized' is not portrayed enough. The gist of Mandriss's work was that he overachieved on a not physical level.

Most devastating loss

"His Senior Year, the 1936 Rams went 5-0-2 before losing, what Lombardi called; "The most devastating loss of my life," when they lost the final game of the season 7-6 to NYU, and with it, the hopes of playing in the Rose Bowl."

Most wanted

1. A source for Dan Lauria saying on the WFAN that when speaking to Lombardi's former players, he would ask the players what they most want to see portrayed in the play, to a man they said Lombardi's sense of humor
2. External link to the Insignis Medal from Fordham University
3. Retrieval of web pages I linked too
4. External link to The Greatest Challenge (I am biased here - I think I listened to Facenda's soliloquy two hundred times at least —Preceding unsigned comment added by 66.234.33.7 (talk) 01:00, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
5. A link to the wikipedia page on the 1958 NFL Championship game which is widely considered as the greatest football game of all time. 66.234.33.7 (talk) 01:40, 4 February 2011 (UTC)
6. Need nfl.com reference on Ice Bowl being one of the most famous games ever also. All the Ice Bowl stuff can/should be replaced by one sentence after a section The Coach(or something like that) comes in. Putting Ice Bowl stuff in this article does not add to Lombardi, it only is a detriment to the Wikipedia page on the Ice Bowl. The Ice Bowl is a monumental game, but Lombardi, "it could be said, had nothing to do with that final drive." p. 426