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:I guess I misjudged the significance of the page size statistics. I agree that the article is bloated and needs to be tightened up. If something is worthy of inclusion in WP, but is only peripheral to the city of Miami, it can go elsewhere. -- [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 13:42, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
:I guess I misjudged the significance of the page size statistics. I agree that the article is bloated and needs to be tightened up. If something is worthy of inclusion in WP, but is only peripheral to the city of Miami, it can go elsewhere. -- [[User talk:Donald Albury|Donald Albury]] 13:42, 11 March 2011 (UTC) |
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==Population is way off-intro and infobox are using 2009 estimates== |
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The introduction and the infobox are using the 433,000 2009 population estimate. The population did not grow as much as they thought, probably partly because of the crash, and according to the 2010 Census data, which I added to the demographics table only, the immediate city proper area still has not broken 400,000. I conjured up the metro are by simply adding the total population of the three counties together, I'm pretty sure that's how it was done before. [[Special:Contributions/169.139.19.135|169.139.19.135]] ([[User talk:169.139.19.135|talk]]) 23:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC) |
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Problem of neutrality
This article, yet complete, seems to avoid the issue of crime. No statistics are given about the crime rate, neither about the amount of homicide per year and its evolution. In view of the violence present in the poor areas of Miami, a complete paragraph should be dedicated to this topic. Without it, this article stands more as a touristic and promotional description of the city rather than an wikipedia article -as the links given in the end demonstrate. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.227.170.39 (talk) 03:14, 9 September 2010 (UTC)
- The word "crime" doesn't even appear in the article... CSZero (talk) 15:51, 19 November 2010 (UTC)
- It also mentions nothing about the rampant corruption which has been present in the city. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.136.39.78 (talk) 23:10, 7 February 2011 (UTC)
A recent problem
A google search of "miami" is now sometimes bringing up only this: M.I.A.M.I. and not the article on the city. 74.37.239.185 (talk) 19:46, 10 December 2010 (UTC) Look; http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS294&=&q=miami&aq=f&oq= Probably not what most people searching for Miami are looking for. 74.37.239.185 (talk) 19:48, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
- The city article does show up finally on the second page. It should be on the first page right after google's thing and the city's government website. 74.37.239.185 (talk) 19:50, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
- It would seem your problem lies with Google, not Wikipedia. --Scaletail (talk) 20:42, 10 December 2010 (UTC)
Geography Section, First Paragraph
I've never edited a Wikipedia article and I don't currently have the time to put into it (though at some point I'd like to take the time to give back). But I did want to point out some erroneous information that one of you fine contributors can take a look at.
In the first paragraph of the Geography section it states, "Miami is the only major city in the United States bordered by two national parks, Everglades National Park on the west, and Biscayne National Park on the east." I have no idea where the writer of this statement came up with this, but it is simply not true. The city of Miami doesn't share a single inch of border with any national park. Any look at a map makes that perfectly clear. There's a slight chance it may share a small bit of maritime border with the park, but i doubt it and haven't had the chance to verify. [1]
I hope someone can clear this up. I do believe in consensus, so I didn't go ahead and make the change, but it is definitely factually incorrect. Is the city near two national parks? Absolutely. But I think that's about it.
Cheers!
Alan —Preceding unsigned comment added by 184.32.123.87 (talk) 07:52, 6 January 2011 (UTC)
This article is too big
This article is too big. I'm always getting "waiting for content" when I try to look at it.GroveGuy (talk) 06:51, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
- Looking at the page size:
- Document statistics:
- File size: 403 kB
- Prose size (including all HTML code): 99 kB
- References (including all HTML code): 4836 B
- Wiki text: 99 kB
- Prose size (text only): 47 kB (7762 words) "readable prose size"
- References (text only): 319 B</quote>
- Document statistics:
- The actual text is not all that large. It looks like the bulk of the page size is due to all of the images. -- Donald Albury 11:57, 9 March 2011 (UTC)
- I cut down the number of images by about half, but the article size has been only marginally affected. carl bunderson (talk) (contributions) 04:08, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
I think the SURROUNDING AREAS section could be eliminated. Also the ACCENT section, the CIVIC ENGAGEMENT section, and PROFESSIONAL TRAINING PROGRAMS. For a long time I've been wanting to take HAVANA off the list of sister cities but I've been afraid. Is this article about the city or the area? Cultural objects outside the city limits like the Ring Theatre in Coral Gables could be eliminated. GroveGuy (talk) 04:51, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
- I guess I misjudged the significance of the page size statistics. I agree that the article is bloated and needs to be tightened up. If something is worthy of inclusion in WP, but is only peripheral to the city of Miami, it can go elsewhere. -- Donald Albury 13:42, 11 March 2011 (UTC)
Population is way off-intro and infobox are using 2009 estimates
The introduction and the infobox are using the 433,000 2009 population estimate. The population did not grow as much as they thought, probably partly because of the crash, and according to the 2010 Census data, which I added to the demographics table only, the immediate city proper area still has not broken 400,000. I conjured up the metro are by simply adding the total population of the three counties together, I'm pretty sure that's how it was done before. 169.139.19.135 (talk) 23:39, 24 March 2011 (UTC)
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