User talk:Ttonyb1

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Flakjacket page

toni whats the prob mate....its written how it is ? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Flakjacketrock (talk • contribs) 05:31, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Very simply, it fails to meet the inclusion criteria in WP:MUSIC. ttonyb (talk) 14:02, 2 April 2011 (UTC)

Deletion of Cindy Duncan McMillan

Hello TTonyb1! Thanks for your help with the article on Cindy Duncan Mcmillan. I was wondering if I could bother you for some advice. I am trying to figure out if I can get the article to pass WP:POLITICIAN. I see the line in the guidelines

A politician who has received "significant press coverage" has been written about, in depth, independently in multiple news feature articles, by journalists.

I have no real knowledge of how to judge "significate press coverage". If I cite more sources would this help or is the subject of the article just not covered enough in the press. I have been able to locate about 28 articles on GNEWS for her, but if she would need 10,00 I could obviously stop now. Any advice you could give me would be much appreciated. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dewolfe48 (talk • contribs) 21:02, 3 April 2011 (UTC)

Actually the number is not as important as quality. Take a look at WP:RS and specifically WP:NEWSORG. Articles must be supported by "non-trivial" secondary sources. "Non-trivial" means the reference article should be about the Wikipedia article subject and be much more than a passing mention. Good luck... ttonyb (talk)

Tammie Kaae

Declined, I'm pretty sure that http://wpedia.goo.ne.jp/enwiki/Tammie_Kaae is a wikimirror, and the text got out to the mirrors because this article was previously deleted under a BLPPROD. Let me know (or just re-tag G12) if I'm mistaken. Have a great week! --joe decker^{talk to me} 04:04, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the heads up. I based my CSD on the "Copyright:(C) 2011 NTT Resonant Inc. All Rights Reserved." at the bottom of page. Since I cannot go beyond that - Japanese is not my native language - I'll leave it as is. My best to you. ttonyb (talk) 04:09, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

It's not mine either, but I've seen goo.ne.jp mirror en.wiki content quite a bit when I've looked for copyvios myself, kinda wacky, but ... I'm amazed how many w-mirrors there are! --joe decker^{talk to me} 04:10, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks...The number of mirrors says a lot (all positive) about Wikipedia content being valuable. ttonyb (talk) 04:12, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

StrataFusion Page

Hello Ttonyb1. Thanks for your notes. I have reviewed the suggested materials. I submit to you that this article was written in good faith, so please know that all I seek is consistent guidance from Wikipedia. StrataFusion's business model hinges on management consulting work being performed by Chief Information Officers and other Senior Executives. This differentiates the organization in the marketplace from other Advisory firms listed within Wikipedia such as the following:

• Everest Group
• EquaTerra
• Avasant

Numerous external sources have been provided to support StrataFusion's content, and in many cases they are the same or similar sources as those provided by the Advisory firms above. Can you clarify your note with an example of a verifiable source such as those included in the samples above so that similar sources for StrataFusion can be gathered and presented? Thank you for the additional clarification. — Preceding unsigned comment added by ManagementConsultingFan (talk • contribs) 05:23, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

MCF, Thanks for the note. I have no doubt you have written the article in good faith. Each article has to meet certain criteria to establish Wikipedia notability. Wikipedia notability differs from "real-world" notability in that it does not rely on popularity or such to meet the criteria. Each article has to demonstrate notability, in this case WP:COMPANY, using reliable sources. Unfortunately it appears this article does not meet that criteria. The articles you referenced are not reliable sources. Examples of reliable secondary sources would be an article in the WSJ or other major paper (either online or print), extensive local coverage, or independent reviews of the company's service in a project. Items such as press releases, company listings, website listings, or passing mentions in a newspaper article are not. For example, if I were providing a reference for the SWA 737 airframe failures, I could use [1]. ttonyb (talk) 05:49, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Stella Ruiz White

hi tony, my name is Rick Respicio and i represent Stella Ruiz White. i am her manager and we are trying to make her page in wikipedia as official and as legally possible without any controversial articles such as her wedding to an ex-bf from another artist back home in the philippines. i propose to delete that footnote about her husband and the ex-gf since it is not about stella but it keeps reverting to that controversial article which might create a negative publicity. i need your help in this. i added categories, her songs and other information today but i keep getting the warnings and i am trying to do my best but also am very busy. any assistance from you would be greatly appreciated. thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by KingR2r (talk • contribs) 15:27, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

1. Wikipedia is not a vehicle to promote your clients. See WP:PROMOTION.

2. Please read WP:COI.

3. Wikipedia is not censored to remove supportable negative items about a subject. See WP:CENSORED ttonyb (talk) 15:39, 4 April 2011 (UTC)

Dwight eisenhower world war II jacket and Dwight Eisenhower's Rolex Watch

My apologies for starting a new topic here, but I just started using wikipedia for a work assignment and I don't know how to respond to proposed actions and comments on articles I create. Basically I work for a collector (see Raleigh DeGeer Amyx)---his web developer, actually---and must create wikipedia articles featuring some of his most historically significant and important items (especially Eisenhower's Rolex Watch). I saw a comment that mentioned GHIT and GNEWS. I don't know what those are, but am eager to find out and work on getting my articles to pass muster, as it were. thanks, ryanRaw4815 (talk) 18:01, 6 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raw4815 (talk • contribs) 17:47, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Raw4815, this is a good way to communicate any questions you have about your articles. The reason the articles have been nominated for deletion is they do not appear to meet the criteria for inclusion. All articles must be notable per Wikipedia standards, that is they must meet criteria in WP:G using reliable sources. I do not see that the items meet that criteria. GHits and GNEWS refer to Google hits and Google News. I suggest you also read WP:PROMOTION and WP:COI. ttonyb (talk) 18:02, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

I have read a few more of the notability guideline articles, and I believe I am beginning to get the hang of this. As I understand it, thus far, both of my pages (Eisenhower's World War II Jacket, and Eisenhower's Rolex Watch) are proposed for deletion primarily because the entry does not have reliable sources. Now then, I have two, maybe three questions in regard to this. First thing: On the Raleigh DeGeer Amyx wikipedia page, the very watch (which is by nature notable since it is mention in the Amyx article itself as notable in the nationally known collection) of which I'm trying to make a separate page is mentioned. Since companies do not typically publish their entire histories, I had to find a source on the web that verified the Rolex story, especially of how this particular Eisenhower issue was crucial in creating an international status of success by those who now wear the Rolex gold watch. This source is at: http://rolexblog.blogspot.com/2008/07/history-of-rolex-president-part-1.html My question is, does this link count as a reliable source, and can I list it in the Sources section of the Dwight Eisenhower Rolex Watch page? Now for my second question: Can I link TO the Eisenhower Rolex Watch page within the collector's main page, specifically right where it is mentioned and referenced? Ryan Raw4815 (talk) 18:52, 6 April 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Raw4815 (talk • contribs) 18:49, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Pardon me for butting in here...

1) Blogs are not considered to be reliable sources. Click here to see what is. 2) Yes, you can link to the watch page from Amyx's own article page, it the article survives the deletion discussion. However, I will issue you a strong caution: If you have any connection with Amyx of his museum, these articles will be seen as a violation of our conflict of interest policies, and therefore suspect of being promotional in nature. Do you work for Mr. Amyx in any way, paid or otherwise? - Realkyhick (Talk to me) 20:18, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Realkyhick, no need to apologize. You are absolutely right about reliable sources and the addition of promotional items to Wikipedia. BTW - Based on Raw4815's comments above, he works for the collection's web developer and has been tasked with adding the collection items to Wikipedia - by default he works for the collection. Thanks for your help. ttonyb (talk) 22:36, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

Reply to your comment that I work for the collector

"Raw4815 (talk) 22:03, 6 April 2011 (UTC) Raw4815, given that you work for the collector's web developer and you have been tasked to create pages for the collection, by default you are working for the collector. ttonyb (talk) 22:16, 6 April 2011 (UTC)"

Thank you for your time. That logic does not follow. I'm not working for the collector, and I don't have a financial interest in his collection. I will continue to follow the guidelines of Wikipedia and create pages based on his collection. While it is true that there are not hundreds of published source materials about his collection, there are enough sources from his own page (see Raleigh DeGeer Amyx) to work from at this point. I only need to learn more of the guidelines and figure out how to do it.

Again, thank you for your time, and comments. Raw4815 (talk) 22:32, 6 April 2011 (UTC)

New Additions to MARIO FERRI article

Please check out citations 9 and 10, the newspaper article entitled "Ferri Back on Campagin Trail". Let me know if that helps to raise the level of the article. Thanks! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polyscigrad (talk • contribs) 05:37, 7 April 2011 (UTC) Polyscigrad (talk) 05:40, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Cleanup tag bombing on Karina Fabian

Hello Ttonyb1, please do not cleanup tag bomb articles as you did here. For cleanup tagging it is best to tag the main issues with tags as specific as possible. As the article was written by a new editor it may discourage them if they see a long list of cleanup issues. Thank you, Alpha Quadrant ^talk 16:06, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

First of all this is not disruptive editing and I am concerned that you would imply that it is. There is nothing disruptive or out of norm about adding the tags that I did. I suggest you re-read tag bomb and pay attention to the line, "tag bombing does not apply to the use of tags that are self explanatory; having the same information on the talk page is a redundancy." You may also want to note that one of the tags I placed on the article {{unreferenced}} was specifically mentioned in the article as not being a tag bomb. Additionally, given that the tags have links to detailed articles describing each concern, I am not sure how I could have been more specific. I suggest you read WP:AGF and review WP:Tag bombing before you accuse. My best to you. ttonyb (talk) 16:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

I am just saying that using the "check all that apply" mentality when dealing with new editors is considered a bit bitey. Generally the most pressing issues in an article should be tagged, but redundant/unspecific tags should not be used. It is best to use the most specific tag in a particular category, and three tags at most on a single article. Use of the UnreferencedBLP tag was inappropriate in this case, because the article has sources, but they are not cited using footnotes. After the editor fixed one issue you slapped another cleanup template onto the article. I am not suggesting that you make comments on the talk page of every article that you tag, but please be careful when adding multiple tags to an article written by a new editor. Thanks and best wishes, Alpha Quadrant ^talk 18:22, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification and my best to you. ttonyb (talk) 18:25, 7 April 2011 (UTC)

Mister Salmon's Lack of Legitimate Sources

There is very little information having to do with this particular musician. I am only able to supply articles from his site, discogs.com, and last.fm. Is there a possibility (or a way) to keep the page from being deleted?

Unfortunately, in order to establish a Wikipedia article one must provide notability using verifiable reliable sources. ttonyb (talk) 01:19, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Lounge School of Audio Technology

my page muzik lounge of audio technology has been deleted from wikipedia... this was created by me for our website http:/muzikloungeindia.com and the corresponding facebook page....

this is not copied from any page... so i want my page to be posted back again — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priyankapothala (talk • contribs) 07:53, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

There were a few issues with the page. 1) It was a copy of the facebook page, 2) it was promotional in nature, and 3) it was about a non-notable company. I see the article has been restored to your user space. Before you move it to the mainspace, I suggest you read WP:COMPANY, WP:RS, WP:SPAM, and WP:COPYRIGHT. Good luck. ttonyb (talk) 15:24, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Cort and Fatboy page

Tony, what are you doing? This page has numerous references from widely circulated publications. Why are you bent on having it deleted? Is it based on the name alone? The Oregonian, for example, is the largest publication in Oregonian, a daily paper with circulation well over 100,000 copies in the average day. Surely, there are bigger fish to fry on Wikipedia. All I'm asking for is a proper explanation for your actions. Is 10 citations not enough? What would be enough? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stumptowner (talk • contribs) 18:35, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Very simply put, the article fails to meet the criteria for inclusion. It has been deleted by an AfD and the new article is not a substantial change to the original. It was deleted about 16 hours ago that reason. The new version is not supported by reliable source and I am not even sure the new Oregonlive article exists - the only title that comes up is [2]. Regardless, the references are mere passing references to the article subject. The quantity of references does not matter if the quality does not exist. ttonyb (talk) 18:43, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The article fails to meet the criteria for inclusion? Really? Several widely-circulated, respectable publications don't make it worthy? "Oregon Live" is the website for The Oregonian, the biggest daily in the state of Oregon. To put it in perspective, if Oregon had a NYT, this would be it. I can't see how you overlooked the new link. It's right there. Here it is if you need it: http://www.oregonlive.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2010/02/in_portland_the_city_with_quir.html There are FAR less worthy articles on Wikipedia that are much more deserving of your attention than this one. I must ask, why are you so bent on seeing this article deleted? Furthermore, what would convince that the article is worthy of being included on the website? It seems like you're demanding that the show be featured on the cover of Time Magazine. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stumptowner (talk • contribs) 18:51, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

The article is not about the article subject. It is about pdx.fm and only mentions them in passing. It is hardly "non-trivial" coverage. ttonyb (talk) 18:58, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

Why should the article need to be devoted entirely to the show? While it's a profile on the station, a substantial amount of attention has been devoted to the show. A lengthy paragraph and a quote from the co-host:

"....followed by "Cort and Fatboy," longtime Portland radio stalwarts whose stint on KUFO-FM ended last fall when the station switched owners. Always popular -- "We were No. 1 in our male, 18-to-49 demo," noted Bobby "Fatboy" Roberts -- the duo would obviously be happy to take a suitable offer from a traditional radio station. But even if Wagner can't pay them, Roberts said, pdx.fm gives them a remarkably potent launching pad for finding their own sponsors and for promoting the special events (midnight movies, the weekly "Lost" screening at the Bagdad Theater) they produce, most often for money.

"Our show can get something like 10,000 listeners a day, counting the stream and podcasts," Roberts says. "And there's money there. We've got to hustle harder for it, but it's there." Stumptowner (talk) 19:02, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

WP:SPIP ttonyb (talk) 19:05, 9 April 2011 (UTC)

CSD on Edward Fletcher (actor)

Hi, just dropping by to give you a heads up that I have replaced your CSD A7 on Edward Fletcher (actor) with a CSD G4. I don't think the article meets the A7 criteria (the titanic claim is enough in my opinion), but it does still need to be deleted. Monty₈₄₅ 18:32, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Even better, thanks for the heads up. ttonyb (talk) 18:35, 10 April 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion contested: Isis Taylor

Hello Ttonyb1, and thanks for patrolling new pages! I am just letting you know that I contested the speedy deletion of Isis Taylor, a page you tagged for speedy deletion, because of the following concern: The article makes a credible assertion of importance or significance, sufficient to pass A7. You may wish to review the Criteria for Speedy Deletion before tagging further pages. Thank you. Logan _Talk ^{Contributions} 14:31, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

You may want to rethink your use of blanket tags for experienced editors. ttonyb (talk) 14:53, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rebecca Javeleau Birthday Party

I've taken this to AfD after declining a speedy on it. As you've edited there, I'm letting you know. Peridon (talk) 18:24, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Barack Obama

I hope you realise, that I will be here to re-add Julia into the 2010 article, until Barack Obama and the other leaders of the world are removed from the year articles that say they got elected or they were sworn in etc. You can't have one and not the other. Have all or Have none. I won't be removing Barack from his year article, because Whenever I do, someone has to object. And when I say remove him and the others from the article, I mean permanently please. Thank You -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 11:34, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Feel free to remove the Obama entries and if the entry is re-added move to discuss on the talk page. ttonyb (talk) 11:37, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

We have already done that Tony! We have gotten knowhere! I can tell you right now there will be more in favor of keeping him there than not. And that is not fair, and you know it. -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 11:39, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Look in other words, I am trying to say is: I want your help here. I will remove Barack Obama from the 2009 article as per saying "Fails WP:RY Policies", But can you help out by making sure know one tries re-adding it? Then our problem is solved. No more me saying add Julia back etc. There really is no other 'deals' I can offer. -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 11:44, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

This is not about deals, this is about consensus. Warring is not the answer or the Wikipedia accepted way to approach this type of disagreement. Unfortunately, life and Wikipedia are not always fair, but one should not subvert consensus to try to make it so. Are you really willing to impact your ability to contribute to Wikipedia make a point? ttonyb (talk) 11:47, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

Look I removed Barck Obama from the article. If there are no objections, this should be officialy over. It wasn't you. It wasn't the other's. Obviously it was me, who has tried to hard to spread my "point" out. I tried too hard. No one is at fault but me. Fingers crossed that there are no objections...then i'll be out of everyones hair in the years article. Thank You -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 11:56, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

I suggest you shake it off, learn from your mistakes, and move forward. My best to you. ttonyb (talk) 17:11, 12 April 2011 (UTC)

That's what I shall do! :) Thank You for your time. -- MelbourneStar☆ ^{(talk to me)} 04:19, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Chris Via - help

Hey Tony, would you please help me on the page Chris Via? I'm new to this. I would gladly appreciate this! Thanks. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Narlysurfer2004 (talk • contribs) 21:18, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for the message. In order for an article to stay on Wikipedia, notability has to be established for the subject using reliable sources. In this case the article needs to meet the criteria in WP:BIO. Currently, the article lacks reliable sources. Take a look at the WP:RS to see what kind of coverage can be used to support an article. In addition, take a look at the welcome message on you talk page and its links and let me know (here) if you have any questions. ttonyb (talk) 21:54, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dennis I. Johnson

According to wikipedia's rules on notability, it states that you are not to use search engines as a tool to determine notability; unless I read that wrong, please enlighten if that is not true. Besides the fact, that if you put in this person's name (without the "I.") you will get many GHits and GNews; but you have to wade through the information partaining to the basketball star. Dennis Johnson is a common name and would require deeper research to find relevance.

As for the statement about regional theatre... Regional theatre is quite often professional theatre; but not located in a major city. So if directing a few regional theatre productions is not relevant that might be more determined by the theatre, which the article doesn't really mention.

Also I noticed this person is a playwright with several plays listed. If you look at the wikipedia site that lists known playwrights http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_playwrights; you'll see that there are quite a few on the list that have bio's similar to this person.

Not a registered member, just wanted to get clarification before I register and/or begin editing any pages. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.138.205.139 (talk) 19:05, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Google is not used to establish notability. WP:GHITS refers to using hits counts, the nomination refers to the lack of GHIts and GNEWS of substance.

The type of theater is not relevant. To establish notability one must meet certain criteria as outlined in WP:BIO, WP:N, or WP:CREATIVE. None of those use directing as criteria to establish notability.

Other stuff exists ttonyb (talk) 19:42, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Didn't mean to point out the other pages as an argument for keeping this page; just saw it as an inconsistancy.

So based on the WP:BIO does this imply that a theatre director, even a Broadway director would not be considered notable based on wikipedia's policies? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.138.205.139 (talk) 20:01, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia is not about truth, it is about verifiability. The assumption is a Broadway director would be notable because their accomplishments would be verifiable using reliable sources and those accomplishments would meet the criteria in WP:N or one of the notability subpages. ttonyb (talk) 21:59, 16 April 2011 (UTC)

Muzik Lounge School of Audio Technology

i want to know why this has been placed in speedy deletion.... this is about our school muzik lounge school of audio technologies.... the corresponding blog,site and facebook page are created by us... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priyankapothala (talk • contribs) 04:53, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

For the same reasons I listed before in User_talk:Ttonyb1#Lounge_School_of_Audio_Technology. ttonyb (talk) 15:26, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

CIRC (musical group)

Why delete most of this new article, then to immediately declare its mutilated form insignificant? It was not a copy/paste job: it was rewritten/paraphrased and referenced, and contained details of the work of a period in the career of Alexander Perls, who is the composer of a significant number of top40 musical works. There is an article on the band de:The Circ in the German Wikipedia already, which has been online for more than a year and is thus obviously considered significant enough to remain by the German admins. The German article contains similar information as in the sources I found, but does not cite the sources like I did. Certainly makes me wonder if trying to help out 'round here is worth the effort. Restore or waste both English & German articles, up to you. Bezapt (talk)

There were two issues here. The first was that the article failed to meet the criteria in WP:Music needed to establish notability. The second was the text I removed was a copy violation of the noted webpage. The text was not significantly rewritten to absolve the copyright issue. I cannot speak to the German version; however, it is not unusual that an article can exist on another project and be deleted on another. This is not about changing the German version, but insuring the article in this project meets the Wikipedia criteria for notability. ttonyb (talk) 18:44, 17 April 2011 (UTC)

Muzik Lounge School of Audio Technology

i have created a page named Muzik Lounge School of Audio Technology... but it has been deleted under speedy deletion... i actually got the permission from the website owner for officially copying the content... could you tell me how can i proceed after this and post the page on wikipedia officially — Preceding unsigned comment added by Priyankapothala (talk • contribs) 11:58, 18 April 2011 (UTC)

For future reference...

...{{OTRS received}} is not the same as permission verified (generally {{ConfirmationOTRS}} or {{PermissionOTRS}}), although we did just get usable permission for Peter Storer Jr.. All it means is that we have received some email from some person regarding that image/article. VernoWhitney (talk) 21:07, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

My apologies...I miss understood the intent of the statement. Thank you for taking the time to clarify it. ttonyb (talk) 21:11, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

Contested deletion of Metro Retro Page

Hi Tony, I just created metro retro page, and now it's under speedy deletion warning, I'm new to this warning, and really don't know what caused that. If it's caused by copying the content from their official website, I already have their approval. Please help me, thanks --Ariesma (talk) 18:16, 22 April 2011 (UTC)