User talk:Harout72

Cher

That isn't definitive at all. You'd need a source that specifically linked the entertainer to that name.—Kww(talk) 08:03, 24 December 2010 (UTC)

re: Hammer

Per "requested/acceptable" source: http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/13/arts/television/13hammertime.html 63.131.4.149 (talk) 05:55, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for updating, great job! P.S. If you work on other articles regarding album sales that would need to include this information, feel free to update those as well. I appreciate it. Happy 2011! 63.131.4.149 (talk) 06:46, 1 January 2011 (UTC)

Rick Ross discography

Just so everything is clear, I didn't realize I had removed the sales figures when I formatted the tables. Sorry about that. EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 23:52, 9 January 2011 (UTC)

That's ok, I figured. But I created an additional column again for the sales figures, I am not sure why you placed the sales figures and certifications in the same column. See Wikipedia:WikiProject Discographies/style.--Harout72 (talk) 00:05, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Okay. Wonderful! EnDaLeCoMpLeX (contributions) • (let's chat) 00:10, 10 January 2011 (UTC)

Barnstar

		The Original Barnstar
		For your creative and awesome ideas. Regards, Scieberking (talk) 07:02, 24 January 2011 (UTC)

Hiya

Hey Harout :) Looks like the new rule is coming along nicely! I wanted to let you know I received an answer by the RIANZ about the Carey-Dion thing, but it does not help :(. Jacque told me that they got their info from record labels, and that some of the certifications were no doubt outdated because they didn't get all their requests back. They list Music Box and Daydream at both 5x Platinum, like we thought, but for Dion's Let's Talk About Love they list Platinum and don't list Falling into You. Tricky I know :(. Also, can you provide me with some info. What are the different levels of certification and sales requirements for gold and platinum in Sweden, Switzerland, Argentina, Netherlands, and Austria? If you could tell me the different amounts over the years, I can't find that info anywhere :S. Thanks!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 19:49, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

It definitely does! Thank you very much :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 20:31, 27 January 2011 (UTC)

Backstreet Boys discography

I supported my positions with sources 122.165.3.250 (talk) 01:39, 31 January 2011 (UTC)

Eros Ramazzotti discography

Just wanted to clarify my edit summary. What the {{Link FL}} template does is mark the interwiki link with a star showing that the article has featured list status in that Wikipedia, which indeed this article seems to have.--Muhandes (talk) 08:49, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Taco (musician)

Hi,

I am Taco's manager and tried to change the following wrong facts: 1) Taco is not an Indonesian but a DUTCH singer - 2) His origin is not Germany but THE NETHERLANDS - 3) "Puttin' on the Ritz" was #1 in Austria and not only in the Top-5.

Best regards, Roland [1] [2] [3]

Roland Colerus 16:07, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Taco

Hi,

You used the Swiss Charts but not the AUSTRIAN: http://www.austriancharts.at/oe3_no1.asp (1983 3 weeks - 3 Wochen #1) If you don't believe his official bio, please have a look at this brandnew online interview: http://oldschool.tblog.com/post/1970109864. Concerning "origin" I thought it has to be the nationality.

All the best, Roland

Roland Colerus 16:36, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Taco

One last try, Taco's passport: http://www.taco.tc/Passport.PDF

Roland Colerus 17:44, 1 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi, Though his numerous fans know he is Dutch, here are some other sources: http://www.discogs.com/artist/Taco - http://sv.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taco_Ockerse - http://www.funkhauseuropa.de/sendungen/suepermercado/suepermusik/2010/suepersong_100817.phtml - http://www.zevener-zeitung.de/Home/lokales/region-landkreis_artikel,-Mehr-als-nur-ein-Ein-Hit-Wunder-_arid,242673_print,1.html - http://www.lyricsbird.com/artist.info/Taco-Ockerse/ - http://wapedia.mobi/de/Taco_Ockerse - http://www.zevener-zeitung.de/Home/lokales/region-landkreis_artikel,-Mehr-als-nur-ein-Ein-Hit-Wunder-_arid,242673.html - http://www.kulturundheimat.de/index.php/hoermahl/137-taco - http://listing-index.ebay.com/musicians/Taco_Ockerse.html - http://www.wordiq.com/definition/Taco_Ockerse - http://www.trueknowledge.com/q/what_nationality_is_taco_ockerse - http://www.videolala.com/actors/Taco_Ockerse - http://www.80smusiclyrics.com/artists/taco.htm

Roland Colerus 08:07, 2 February 2011 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Roco1944 (talk • contribs)

The Emancipation of Mimi

Hiya Harout, I noticed the PDF you uploaded on MediaFire for the certifications in Canada is gone :S. Do you know why the file isn't available on ref 70 anymore? Thanks!--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 09:54, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Ah perfect. Thanks so much Harout! :)--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 17:48, 3 February 2011 (UTC)

Don't forget to let me know when your doing Carey's certs :) I have a few notes to share and stuff. Thanks :D--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 11:43, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

Hi Harout. What about using some Japanese sales? Can I show you them? Even if we don't, I found an RIAJ source listing #1s as 3x Million. I would like to show you this official from the RIAJ, so her Japan certs should be increased 2 million more. Also, I increased the UK numbers by 200k, a reason I left on the talk. Lastly, the Australian certifications are wrong. I have showed you official documents from the ARIA which would equal around 2.9 million. Additionally, Carey's Australian certifications should equal at least 3,980,000. Here is an official source fromm Sony or ARIA claiming Carey ot have shipped 3 million albums in AUS. Plus the 980,000 from her singles. Check them out. Aside from that, it looks good :) --CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 04:04, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

I see your point. However, we have a source for Music Box 11x Platinum, so we can add 770,000 to the AUS total. I've added it :) Last thing Harout, Carey has 1,250,000 certified sales in Spain. We should be able to source it with the same source for that of Madonna and Julio. Also, what happened to Dion's certifications in Canada? She has 7 Diamond albums there alone, let alone the others. She should have a good 10 million+ there. Check it out--CallMeNathan • Talk2Me 06:58, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Denmark

Hi, do you know where to find the year end positions in Denmark for 2008 and 2009? Skaterboy2012 (talk) 19:31, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

Is this what you're looking for, under Album 2010 or Track 2010?--Harout72 (talk) 19:46, 5 February 2011 (UTC)

No, these are the year end positions for 2010. I found another source that lists year end positions from 1997-2007 but I can't find for 2008 and 2009 Skaterboy2012 (talk) 07:27, 6 February 2011 (UTC)

So, have you found a source that lists the year-end positions for these two years?? Skaterboy2012 (talk) 10:16, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

No I'm sorry haven't had the time to look for them, I'm mainly into certifications to be honest with you.--Harout72 (talk) 16:45, 7 February 2011 (UTC)

Taco

I think it is not optimal that you edit warred with an anonymous to reinsert incorrect information into a biography, even after you were given a giant pile of references. I found loads of sources from the 1980s indicating clearly that Mr. Ockerse is Dutch - I added two sources to the entry and corrected the error.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 11:18, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

With all due respect but could you please not accuse me of edit-warring and inserting incorrect information, when all I have tried to do is clean up that article as much as possible by providing various sources, see the original version of the article here before I came across it. Taco may be of Dutch descent but none of the sources posted on my talk page above by Roco1944 could be regarded as reliable with an exception of only one which I must have missed as all others seemed clearly unreliable. With regards to my reverts, this here is the most recent edit I have reverted, again there was no source provided for the claim. And this here is the one before that, again no source provided for the claim.--Harout72 (talk) 17:31, 12 February 2011 (UTC)

My point is that you reverted and re-inserted wrong information when there are loads of reliable sources (I picked only two to include but there are many more, all easily found) and you had very good reason to think that the "clearly unreliable" sources might have had a point. You are a good editor, so please don't take my remarks as any sort of serious complaint or reprimand. I'm merely pointing out, for your reflection, that what you did here was not optimal.

This is the sort of thing that people outside the community complain about fairly often: "I saw an error, I fixed it and gave an explanation why I did it, and they reverted to keep the wrong information anyway." In this case, I understand what happened: you saw only unreliable sources mentioned in the explanation and chose to revert rather than assume good faith and take a look to find a reliable source. I recommend a different approach.--Jimbo Wales (talk) 16:40, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

OK no problem, I honestly do look for appropriate sources to improve articles and I think this can be noticed when the current version of Taco's page is compared to the original one, I thought the article needed help in many other areas rather than emphasizing whether he's of Dutch descent. I don't mean to argue with you, but I believe that the original version of the article before did contain more incorrect information including Taco's musical origin being the Netherlands (which in fact is Germany), or his debut album having been certified Gold in the US (which has not been) etc. Anyways, I'm glad you located reliable sources, and I admit that Zevener Zeitung would have done the job but I simply failed to even click on it.--Harout72 (talk) 17:21, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

We're cool then. Sorry to have even said anything, really, now that I see how much work you put into the article overall. Thanks!--Jimbo Wales (talk) 23:16, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

No problem, I enjoy working on wikipedia project whenever I get the chance.--Harout72 (talk) 23:54, 13 February 2011 (UTC)

best selling artists

hi, I'm just posting regarding your edit to the "best selling artists" page. I might be misunderstanding so just posted to clear something up. it seems you listed certifications for certain artists (like mariah, madonna) including their albums AND singles..but for other artists you only list the certifications for their albums? on second look a few other things seem to be off, like the certifications in japan for both mariah and celine, among other areas..I digress though since it must be tough to tabulate these certifications and I appreciate the work you're doing, I don't have the energy to do itHaiafmo29 (talk) 09:49, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

I have posted all of the available certified sales for all those artists. In other words, I retrieve whatever certifications regardless of albums/singles/videos the certification-databases of the certifying agencies contain. You also might want to go over the footnotes posted below those tables which list artists both with claimed figures and certified sales. The footnotes specify the years each market has established their certification-system, and may give you a clearer picture as to why, for example, Japan's certified sales for Dion and Carey are low, if that's what you're referring to. While Japan has been issuing certifications since 1987, RIAJ's certification-databases cover only records certified in 2003 onwards.--Harout72 (talk) 16:15, 14 February 2011 (UTC)

South African Certifications

Hey, I found this video and at around 1:10, I think I can see the Backstreet Boys holding platinum discs (or double platinum, I'm not sure) for Backstreet's Back and Millennium. Can you please verify and is it possible to use this as a source for adding South African certifications? Skaterboy2012 (talk) 17:04, 18 February 2011 (UTC)

Honestly, I wouldn't use that as a source anywhere on wikipedia to support certifications. I can see them holding certified records, but it's unclear whether they are Gold or Platinum discs, also it's not being mentioned which one of their albums those are for, or what country for that matter. Overall, it's not useful as a source for certifications.--Harout72 (talk) 01:53, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

It's clear that they're holding platinum discs, because gold discs would be gold in colour and platinum discs would be black. The cover of the album can be seen and the one on the left is definitely Backstreet's Back. Also, since they're in South Africa, it is obvious that they are for South African certifications. Skaterboy2012 (talk) 08:44, 19 February 2011 (UTC)

GOOGLEBOOKS

The sources for Spain, Denmark, Portugal, Europe, Malaysia and Italy's correct position (#1, not #2) can be found in Billboard june 5 and june 12 in google books. They are found under "International" topic under "Hits OF The World". See for yourself and the source for hungary can be found under archivum in mahasz website 122.165.3.250 (talk) 17:29, 22 February 2011 (UTC)

While I went all the trouble locating those sources and citing the positions of those markets above you mention, it normally should be done by those editors who persistently claim that they exist. Instead, you chose to revert the entire sourced version of the page to one that has those specified markets but without any sources whatsoever to support any of the listed positions.--Harout72 (talk) 02:33, 23 February 2011 (UTC)

Canada

I have a doubt regarding Canadian certifications. Does the CRIA certify albums once they've reached diamond status? I mean do they post certifications like 11x Platinum, 12x PLatinum etc. From what Ive noticed it looks like they dont certify the album again unless it has reached double diamond status. Or do they actually post certifications between diamond and double diamond CanadianFreak (talk) 06:30, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

Yes you have noticed it correctly, once an album reaches Diamond status, CRIA won't issue anymore certifications for that record unless it turns 2x Diamond.--Harout72 (talk) 16:37, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

European Sales

When IFPI Europe certifies albums, does it include sales in the UK or only continental Europe? Skaterboy2012 (talk) 08:17, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it includes sales of the UK also. IFPI (Europe) is based on sales of all those that are members of IFPI.--Harout72 (talk) 16:11, 9 March 2011 (UTC)

Talkback

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Backstreet Boys ref for "BSB"

Please see my recent comment on Talk:Backstreet Boys#Referred to as BSB re your edit. Mitch Ames (talk) 11:48, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Stress of the armenian names

A question about armenian language: in which syllabe are stressed generally the armenian family names ending at -yan, like Martirosyan, Grigoryan , Nazaryan, etc? Saludos. Leonprimer (talk) 01:11, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

In Armenian language it's common to place the accent upon the vowel of the last syllable, Martirosyān, Grigoryān.--Harout72 (talk) 03:00, 13 April 2011 (UTC)

Tupac sales

Tupac surely has enough certifications for 100 million. His certified sales in Us alone are 37.5 million according to RIAA. He had 75 million sales worldwide in 2003 and since then, the figure has been used by most websites including Forbes.His sales are bound to increase by now. Tupac has also been in Guinness book for being the highest selling rapper in the world. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Ammar93scorpio (talk • contribs) 21:05, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

		The Original Barnstar
		Hey, putting aside what we've been talking about Tupac Shakur, I really appreciate your contributions to so many articles, specially List of best selling artists. KEEP IT UP man!!message Ammar93scorpio (talk) 21:25, 21 April 2011 (UTC)

BSB discography

Hey Harout, I nominated the discography of the Backstreet Boys for FL status and I've been working on the suggestions that the editors have put forward so far. However, I won't be on for the next seven days, so I was wondering if you would go to the reviewing page and work on any further suggestions from any editors. KingdomHearts25 (talk) 20:04, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Thanks, and keep an eye on this page too for any future comments by any other editors. KingdomHearts25 (talk) 20:24, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

IMDB no longer considered reliable? nevermind

Donna Summer article - I see you tossed the IMDB source and content. I am sorry I missed that change to consensus, we have an amazing amount of work to do, if it has happened. May I impose on you to shoot me a linky to that discussion? No problem if not, of course. Please feel free to respond here, or on the article talk page, if you are interested. I will have your talk and the article/article-talk on watch. I confess that I am amazingly dubious of this change of community consensus.Shajure (talk) 04:01, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

No, nevermind, I'll drop the article and you off my watch and move on.Shajure (talk) 04:02, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Jennifer Lopez Singles

What are you doing? Jennifer Lopez Singles reversal. You hate Jennifer Lopez. Please be neutral.alptns90 (talk) 18:58, 24 April 2011 (UTC)