User talk:Kleinzach

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Théâtre de l'Atelier

Hi K: Do you have a watch on my talk page? There are some remarks for you there regarding List of theatres and entertainment venues in Paris.

Here is a new theatre for you: Théâtre de l'Atelier. I am still cleaning up the French translation. What is in the article so far is correct, I think, but it still needs work. Please have at it! I will watch for further discussion of this new article here.--Foobarnix (talk) 01:47, 23 April 2011 (UTC)

Excellent! I'll comment on your talk about the list. --Kleinzach 02:17, 24 April 2011 (UTC)

Here is another new article: Théâtre Montparnasse--Foobarnix (talk) 00:02, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Good. Looks article-worthy. --Kleinzach 03:06, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I have created two more theatre articles: Théâtre national de la Colline and Café de la Gare. Café de la Gare is a particularly interesting case—but I wish I had better citations to support the facts of its history. Also, a little bit unsure about long/latitude.--Foobarnix (talk) 01:50, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

That's great. Please feel free to add data to the List of theatres and entertainment venues in Paris — there's a lot missing! --Kleinzach 03:01, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

Another new theatre, La Cigale, and a new French actress, Sotha.--Foobarnix (talk) 09:01, 3 May 2011 (UTC)

Looks excellent. Very good. --Kleinzach 03:07, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

French street addresses

Hi KZ: I notice that some French street addresses in your list of theatres have a comma, as in "11, rue Général Blaise", and some don't, as in "110 rue Amelot". The same is true of the articles themselves. Is this something we should worry about? Picky picky picky.--Foobarnix (talk) 02:00, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I've just put commas in all the addresses. It seems with comma is commoner than without. I suppose we should try to be consistent even if the French aren't! --Kleinzach 03:04, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

I Just fixed a couple theatre street addresses on your List and noticed an anomaly. See the two websites Le Trabendo and Théâtre Paris-Villette. They are at the same address. Can that be right?--Foobarnix (talk) 22:46, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, looking at Google Maps they are about 300 or 400 metres apart. --Kleinzach 01:01, 30 April 2011 (UTC)

Angela Gheorghiu discography

Hi. Yes, I have the catalogue numbers for most of the cds and dvds. I'll add them. You've done a very good job with the discography! Madamabutterfly (talk) 18:53, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

That's great. Thanks. --Kleinzach 23:27, 25 April 2011 (UTC)

Overlinking

Regarding the amount of linking in the list of operas by Auber, and elsewhere, where the editor in the edit summary referred to WP:REPEATLINK: that guideline has two parts: a) don't repeat, b) except in three cases, one of them relating to tables. So, the editor has a valid point.

I'm in two minds: a page dense with blue links looks weird (as does a page drowning in red), but it must be diffcult for a reader to find a clickable link after sorting a table. Take Auber: after sorting by librettist, the clickable link for the genre "opéra comique" of the work in the first row, Le séjour militaire, is five rows down; after sorting by "Theatre", the second row is Lestocq, ou L'intrigue et l'amour and the link for its librettist, Scribe, is almost two screens down. – Food for thought. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:55, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

We had a discussion about this at Wikipedia:Manual of Style (linking) and a new wording was agreed to reflect actual practice by editors. Did you see that? It was agreed that links that appear in main (body) text would be repeated again in tables/lists, but not an indefinite number of times. Just common sense really. The List of operas by Auber had about 30 links to Scribe. I don't see how anyone could justify such obvious overlinking. (Re your examples, having occasional extra links in either long text or tables/lists is fine IMO.)--Kleinzach 13:18, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

Eh, no, I didn't see that, and my unaided reading of the reworded third point at WP:REPEATLINK didn't convey the altered meaning to me. But then again, I knew the previous wording and, not having read the discussion and no traffic sign "Changed Conditions Ahead", I failed to pick it up. At least our past practice is now validated. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 13:52, 26 April 2011 (UTC)

FSC

Have you stopped watching WP:FSC? I know you have a lot of knowledge and we need reviewers.--TonyTheTiger (T/C/BIO/WP:CHICAGO/WP:FOUR) 03:52, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Title of the Paris Opera article

Hi Kleinzach, I have left some more discussion for you concerning the title of Paris Opera at Talk:Paris Opera#Rename (Paris Opera or Paris Opéra?) --Robert.Allen (talk) 22:12, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Renaissance and Baroque Society of Pittsburgh

Just for the record, my prod was not based upon their being a non-notable musical group, but their apparently being a non-notable group period. I understood the prose just fine. :) (I did list it on the music deletion sorting page, but you'll notice that was not the musician and band page - that distinction was chosen with care.) LadyofShalott 09:02, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

It might be be better to take it to Afd. The article needs referencing to establish notability. --Kleinzach 09:39, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I shall. After doing a Google search to try to find references to add, I prodded it. Since you've challenged that, I will take it to AfD... but when I'm on another machine where I can make better use of Twinkle to do it easily. LadyofShalott 09:44, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

I won't necessarily oppose the Afd. It depends on what people can turn up on the subject. --Kleinzach 09:48, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Renaissance and Baroque Society of Pittsburgh now exists. If anyone can show the existence of appropriate references, I'll happily withdraw the nomination. LadyofShalott 16:51, 24 May 2011 (UTC)

Jono: The Musical

You mentioned on the Jono: The Musical talk page that it could be resubmitted if there were noteable sources. Today we were on the front page of The Kentish Express, Tenterden. Would it be possible to re submit? — Preceding unsigned comment added by George.putland (talk • contribs) 19:20, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Thanks for your message. Unfortunately a local newspaper might not qualify here on WP a 'notable source' but you can ask other people for their opinions. Regards. --Kleinzach 23:12, 2 June 2011 (UTC)

Alexanderwolfe Wiki Page

Hi Kleinzach
This is with regard to your comment on deleting the Alexanderwolfe wiki page. I am Alex's manager and we created this page together taking information and photos only from his approved source. Could you please tell me why this page has been considered for deletion. I have added in some references today along with links to provide proof of him as a releasing recording artist, and not of questionable notability. Please could you let me know what you feel should be added to support this page not being deleted. Thanks. Bang Management Alexanderwolfe (talk) 10:34, 3 June 2011 (UTC)