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:Seems to me that a city without an obesity issue wouldn't go to such lengths to combat it. It should also be noted that [[User:Mindmatrix]] also restored the deleted content, making this more than just my "problem with Heritage's comments". My problem was with his/her's removal of sourced content, for which there was already a consensus, not over whatever comments he or she happened to make. If you're looking to remove the content, I invite your reply citing Wikipedia guidelines (not just your opinion) as to why. Thanks. --[[User:Yankees76|Yankees76]] ([[User talk:Yankees76|talk]]) 04:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
:Seems to me that a city without an obesity issue wouldn't go to such lengths to combat it. It should also be noted that [[User:Mindmatrix]] also restored the deleted content, making this more than just my "problem with Heritage's comments". My problem was with his/her's removal of sourced content, for which there was already a consensus, not over whatever comments he or she happened to make. If you're looking to remove the content, I invite your reply citing Wikipedia guidelines (not just your opinion) as to why. Thanks. --[[User:Yankees76|Yankees76]] ([[User talk:Yankees76|talk]]) 04:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)
At one time not too long ago, St. Catharines was noted for having the highest number of doughnut shops per capita in all of Canada. This could be linked to the obesity statistics! With the very poor economy though, many doughnut shops have closed, possibly leading to slightly lesser obesity statistics? [[Special:Contributions/70.30.33.131|70.30.33.131]] ([[User talk:70.30.33.131|talk]]) 01:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)
At one time not too long ago, St. Catharines was noted
for having the highest number of doughnut shops per capita in all of Canada.
This could be linked to the obesity statistics! With the very poor economy
though, many doughnut shops have closed, possibly leading to slightly lower
obesity statistics?
[[Special:Contributions/70.30.33.131|70.30.33.131]] ([[User talk:70.30.33.131|talk]]) 01:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)


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Decew Falls and Mill

I just had a question that I wanted clarification for, is Decew Falls and the Mill a part of Thorold, Fonthill or St. Catharines? That area gets very tricky as to whether its St. Catharines, Fonthill or Thorold (parts are one thing and not the other varying even by side of the road) and I was just wondering if a source could maybe be found showing that the mill and falls is part of St. Catharines. --Wikifrogeditor (talk) 22:55, 19 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Dick

I read in the article that one of the first settlers of St. Catharines was a man called Captain Dick. How did he get that name? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 209.29.95.198 (talk) 03:21, 27 November 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Captain Dick is Richard Pierpoint, a black Loyalist settler whose story really should be better known than it is. HTH Natty10000 (talk) 01:20, 3 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Rename page

The following is a closed discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was move. Mindmatrix 20:53, 4 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Rename: St. Catharines, OntarioSt. Catharines

This is the primary use of the term, and possibly the only use. An internet search which excludes the terms "Ontario", "Canada", "Niagara" and "horseshoe" still finds nearly 400,000 hits, the first dozen pages of which are related to this city. Per WP:CANSTYLE, the city should have the undisambiguated title, which currently points here anyway. Mindmatrix 15:30, 28 June 2008 (UTC)[reply]

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Addressing Niagara Centre MP Overlap

The Federal and Municipal boundaries do not line up, and as such a section of the city is represented by Malcolm Allen. This area includes the Shaver Medical Facility, Brock University, and some local businesses and dwellings. These Municipal interests that are shared with the federal government fall under his constituency. Adding Malcolm Allen as second MPP representing St.Catharines. (Though it is up for discussion as to if he should be the first since his name does come alphabetically before Rick Dykstra SamichX 01:05, 20 November 2008 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.190.233 (talk) [reply]

Please note that the Provincial riding of Welland (as of 2004) should end before entering the City of St. Catharines. If it is no longer different and Peter Kormos is an MPP for a section of St. Catharines, please note the distinction. SamichX —Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.38.190.233 (talk) 22:50, 21 November 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Short Hills Provincial Park

As far as i can tell from consulting various maps of SHPP, zero or almost zero of it is in St Catharines. The park would appear, to me, to be mostly in Pelham with a part in Thorold. There might be a tiny part on the southwest corner of the intersection of DeCew and Pelham roads that's in St Catharines but, if memory serves me correctly, that part of St Catharines is in private hands belonging to landowners who front on Pelham Road. Those lands are not part of the park. I definitely think it's erroneous to include Short Hills PP as a park in St Catharines, especially given that, by first approximation, about 100% of the park is not. 142.140.230.111 (talk) 20:49, 20 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

obesity?

Obesity should be under demographics. A city can't be obese. Only people can be. Get with the program yankee76. You seem to have a problem with Heritage's comments. I agree with Heritage. This belong's in a Canadian obesity topic not in St. Catharine Ontario. It is not current and is specious. It should be put in demographhttp://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:St._Catharines&action=edit&section=6ic data or another topic altogether. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Canadadan (talkcontribs) 00:07, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]

First edit in three years and it's specifically about this issue and in particular me? Gee that's not too obvious now is it [1]? Uncivil comments aside, the content is notable and shouldn't be removed because one particular editor (most likely a resident of the area, as is often the case with removal of potentially negative info in city articles) believes "a city can't be obese". Who is saying that? Nowhere does it imply that the city is obese. The article states obesity is a city issue and backs it up with citations from reliable, unbiased sources. The fact is there was significant news coverage of St. Catharines being called Canada's fattest city in 2001, and the most recent study on the subject of obesity rates in Canada show that the obesity rate in the city is even higher as of 2008. No new statistics have been released - making it as current as possible. Also, if this was not a city issue, why did St. Catharines-Niagara create the TrekZone anti-obesity strategy as a result? [2] [3],[4]. Note in particular the part that says how Dr. Sheela Basrur, Ontario Chief Medical Officer of Health informed the city that 10-15 percent of all deaths in Niagara are linked to overweight or obesity. "According to combined data from the 2001-2003 Rapid Risk Factor Surveillance System surveys 54% of Niagara’s adult population (18-64 years of age) is classified as overweight or obese."
Seems to me that a city without an obesity issue wouldn't go to such lengths to combat it. It should also be noted that User:Mindmatrix also restored the deleted content, making this more than just my "problem with Heritage's comments". My problem was with his/her's removal of sourced content, for which there was already a consensus, not over whatever comments he or she happened to make. If you're looking to remove the content, I invite your reply citing Wikipedia guidelines (not just your opinion) as to why. Thanks. --Yankees76 (talk) 04:56, 17 February 2010 (UTC)[reply]
             At one time not too long ago, St. Catharines was noted
for having the highest number of doughnut shops per capita in all of Canada.
This could be linked to the obesity statistics! With the very poor economy 

though, many doughnut shops have closed, possibly leading to slightly lower

obesity statistics?
70.30.33.131 (talk) 01:33, 6 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Change picture

Could someone consider changing the lead picture of the city? That picture makes the city look like a 3rd world slum. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 144.29.1.20 (talk) 14:25, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Precisely why it's perfect. :P On a serious note, I strongly agree. --Matt0401 (talk) 22:22, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]
I've taken the initiative to sub in the image showing the corner of St. Paul & Queen. I think it is a much nicer photograph, and the photo used in the infobox should make the article look attractive and inviting. I understand 'why' the photo of the low level lot was chosen for the infobox, because it shows the city's skyline, and that the infobox image should show the skyline, but I think it is acceptable to use this photo instead until a better photo of the skyline becomes available. St. Paul Street and Queen Street are also very key features of the city, the corner shown in this photo is essentially our "Times Square". --Matt0401 (talk) 23:33, 1 April 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Nickname and original name not mentioned in article

The generally used nickname for the city of St. Catharines is "St. Kitts". The original name of the city was "Grantham". The author Howard Engle uses the city name "Grantham" in his fictional "Benny Cooperman" books. I have no documentation for any of these points.70.30.33.115 (talk) 19:21, 4 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]