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note to myself, its archive 6 #42

You might find this wp:dab discussion interesting

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Disambiguation#Agree_on_the_goal_and_all_else_should_follow   Daniel.Cardenas (talk) 00:50, 7 September 2010 (UTC)

Visual thinking

I have been reading the visual thinking article, had a look at the editing history, and the comments on the talk page. I am a visual-spatial learner which helps me cope with my auditory processing disorder, and my auditory processing disorder is the cause of my dyslexic symptom. I have been editing the Auditory Processing Disorder and Dyslexia articles for some time now, to help create a better understanding of what Auditory Processing Disorder is, I was wondering if the articles included in the Learning Style sub-section Visual-Spatial Learners by Lesley Sword, Linda Silverman, Allie Golon, and Cate Turner on the APDUK explains what you are try to describe in the Visual thinking article. dolfrog (talk) 00:11, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Well yes, the left side of the table at the end of the page here: http://www.learningstyles.apduk.org/powerofvt1.htm describes me!

Actually I think of those that are not visual thinkers not as "auditory thinkers" as such but as thinkers that use language (text) to think.

What for me is most difficult is those thought processes that use "abstract language concepts". The most abstract language concept, (thus the most difficult) for me is the coupling of a completely arbitrary group of letters with a concept. Or, to make it more concrete, I have great difficulty remembering names I hear, because a name is simply a "jumble of letters" I have to remember. Obviously if repetition is involved then it becomes easier, so "john smith" is easier to remember than "avidavies tornique".

As I said, there IS a component of auditory processing involved in the difficulty I experience, because I can much better remember names when I see them (written down) than when I just hear them. With me its often "one ear in, the other ear out". Another problem is a sense of time, which I'm bad with.

I discovered I'm a "picture thinker", when my sister pointed out an article about "beelddenken", and said that she thought she recognized herself in it. To my amazement I also recognized myself in it.

In the Netherlands the concept of "beelddenkers" (picture thinkers) is quite accepted, especially in education, although there are specialist who still claim "it doesn't exists".

The emphasis in the Netherlands is on "picture thinking", not so much on "learning styles" though.

In the meantime my sister has had her children tested for beelddenken, and two of them are also (to a degree) beelddenkers, and get special educational support to cope with it now. So in my opinion beelddenken is hereditary.

I don't see my picture thinking only as a handicap, but also as a great gift.

Its perhaps only a handicap because I live in a world where language thinking is the norm, and other ways of thinking, and the limitations that come with it, are not recognized.

One thing that can be irritating is that I can sometimes have great insights which I cannot express to others simply "because there are no words for". Mahjongg (talk) 10:44, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

By the way, recently I went to the doctor to get my ears unblocked, (syringing of earwax) because in some cases I had a hard time understanding what people said in noisy surroundings, but according to the doctor it wasn't necessary, as my ears weren't blocked. Its funny to read that this is a symptom of Auditory Processing Disorder. Not that I really believe it's anything but a coincidence. Mahjongg (talk) 21:07, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

The concept of "thinking in pictures instead of language" has a long history in the Netherlands, for example in 1965 a cartoon ("Tom Poes en de Waggelgedachten, story (Tom Puss and Waggel's ideas)") was published in the Dutch version of "Donald Duck magazine", that was centered around this idea. It was later re-published as a booklet called "are you a picture thinker". See [1] . The cover shows it all. It is now thought that the writer of the cartoon Marten Toonder was far ahead of his time when drawing/writing this. Mahjongg (talk) 21:25, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

My three sons, my wife and I all have individual clinical diagnosis of Auditory Processing Disorder(APD), our youngest son and I are both visual-spatial learners, which helps us cope with our APD, our middle son has become a visual learner over time to compensate for his auditory deficit. Our eldest son was the first to be diagnosed as having APD in 1998, and it was when i was only self diagnosed that a friend from Australia sent me a pdf copy of this article I think in pictures, you teach in words: The gifted visual-spatial learner by Lesley Sword the first article I had ever read which really described me. Very much like when you read "beelddenken" I would imagine. dolfrog (talk) 21:36, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Yes, but maybe significant the article my sister showed me wasn't in a scientific magazine, but in a popular, widely read, parenting magazine. I believe In the Netherlands "picture thinking" is -much- more of a mainstream subject than anywhere else, most parents, and almost all teachers have read about it. The term was uses as early as 1950, when the "Instituut voor het Beelddenken". ("the institute for picture thinking") was started by Maria J. Krabbe. Still, the idea seems to have a hard time crossing the border from the Netherlands. It feels as if the Netherlands is the only country that takes the idea seriously, and even here there are still distractors that won't accept it. Mahjongg (talk) 21:42, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

Auditory processing disorder, is also known in the Netherlands, as "Auditieve Verwerkings problemen" (AVP), but its less well known than picture thinking, for example the Dutch Wikipedia has an entry for "beelddenken" but not for "Auditieve Verwerkings problemen", except for a redlink at AVP. Mahjongg (talk) 22:19, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

This may also be coincidental (especially because of the obvious hereditary nature of picture thinking in my family), but as a fact I -did- suffer from a very dangerous ear infection shortly after birth, in fact I almost died because a nurse at the hospital had an open ear infection, and infected me. I learned that she was actually fired for the incident. I spent months in a Neonatal intensive-care unit recovering. And as a young child I was send to a special school, because of "learning difficulties", though later it was discovered that I'm rather intelligent. Perhaps the ear infection has added to my development of my picture thinking when I was very young. When I'm very tired I'm obviously dyslectic, and in extreme cases have problems forming sentences. When writing, people often complain about my "convoluted writing style" (even in Dutch). All these I think are due to me "translating my thoughts into language", which is very difficult for me. In contrast, I have a natural talent in conjuring up electronic designs (schematics). Mahjongg (talk) 22:37, 27 September 2010 (UTC)

My eldest son was one of the first children to be diagnosed with Auditory Processing Disorder in the UK back in 1998. We had research APD via the internet from the USA to find waht APD actually was and the type of support he would need both at home and at school. It was when carrying out this online research that I realised that I also had APD. I had to create a web site so that my sons school teachers could follow the links to find the information to understand his problems. So the last 10 years or so for me and my family have been about self discovery, while at the same time having to educate others as to the nature of our disability, we had never heard of APD and neither had anyone else in the UK. My APD causes me to be dyslexic, the word recall problems, and letter sequencing problems,etc. And as you say when I am stressed or tired my working memory has problems running the coping strategies I need to work around the information processing deficits. Although spellcheckers can help dolfrog (talk) 00:52, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

All sounds very recognizable, including the "coping strategies" and how the spell checkers help. I also often write "waht" when I mean "what", but the thing is, I am also very good at spotting spelling errors,  :-) and have a natural ability to speed read. As I said, its not simply a handycap (I mean handicap, a freudian mistake perhaps...). Ill think a bit about AVP, maybe tell my sister about it to see what she thinks. As I said I'm bad with time comprehension, its much too late again. Going to bed now.... Mahjongg (talk) 01:29, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

Who caused the confusion on the Tablet PC entry ?

First of all, regarding the rename of the article -- I think we need to get the facts straight here: It wasn't me who moved the article; it was Eraserhad -- and this is what he wrote:

So we can move forward I've moved 'tablet PC' to Microsoft tablet PC.

I wondered why you didn't object that, considering your support to my request in renaming the article from "Tablet PC" to "Tablet Personal Computer". I simply renamed the article to Tablet Personal Computer -- a move you had supported! The article, in its original form, wasn't specifically about Microsoft. It was about all Tablet PCs. The natural procedure, if anyone wanted to create a Microsoft Tablet PC article, would be to start one instead of messing with an article that clearly serves a purpose. I think you have blamed the wrong party here.

There isn't any confusion about the Tablet PC article and I never accepted that it should be renamed to Tablet Computer on the grounds that:

1) Tablet PCs are named Tablet PCs by many manufacturers, retailers and reliable sources. 2) The Personal Computer term defines an important distinction between computers programmable by their users and computers with a centralized control over code execution, such as the iPad.

The above is not simply an opinion; it is a fact, supported by sources. Thus, Tablet PC should not be renamed to Tablet Computer as that would encompass an extremely diverse number of devices such as the new Kindle, and users looking for Tablet PCs would not find what they were looking for.

What is clearly my opinion and thus I am not going to hold on to it on Wikipedia is that:

1) We don't need a Tablet Computer article. The iPad can be categorized as a Tablet Computer or an Embedded Media Appliance without the need of creating an entry about it. At least a second device like the iPad should appear before making a new category.

2) We don't need an article for the Microsoft Tablet PC specification; reliable information about it is very scarce -- I can't find a white paper about it anywhere on the net -- and it can be accommodated in the Tablet Personal Computer entry as a section.

Whatever you think about the above 2 opinions, you might agree that copying material from Tablet PC to Tablet Computer causes confusion and should be reverted. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Vyx (talk • contribs) 08:57, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Sorry but there =was= consensus, even by me, that the right name for the article should have been "Microsoft Tablet PC", you seem to be the only one who wanted to insist on having "Personal Computer" in the title, and I think we both know why that is. The concept of a "tablet PC" as an abstraction, together with all other variations of tablet computers, will be incorporated in the main article Tablet computer, with only the Microsoft origins as the separate article Microsoft Tablet PC. in fact the Microsoft Tablet PC article was first created as a reaction to Microsoft coining the term, and is thus specifically for these systems, not for all the later copycats. That these were later also incorporated into the article doesn't deter from that fact.

Listen, I have no objections about you having strong feelings about the trend that the iPad has set in for the personal freedom of doing what you want to do with your own computer, but in your zeal to get this point across you seem willing to ignore consensus, just to get your wish. While doing so you created an unholy mess, that is the problem. Not that you want to "get your point across". No big harm has been done, Wikipedia has a tendency to sort things like this out. I simply hope we can all work together to create a balanced article about tablet computers.

My idea about such an article is that it has a structure roughly like this:

--lede--

--History--

--Variations of tablet computers--

• Tablet PC's
  • Generic Tablet PC's
  • Microsoft tablet PC
• Internet media devices (like the iPad)
• All other tablet using systems

Mahjongg (talk) 10:26, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Please have a look at this

I hope this will allow us to focus on more important issues. Vyx (talk) 19:47, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

agreed, lets work together, not against each other. Mahjongg (talk) 23:39, 29 September 2010 (UTC)

Culture of fear

This is an article that you have edited in the past and you appear to me to be an active editor on Wikipedia today. You may wish to be aware that the article has been nominated for deletion. You can can comment on the proposal by following the link in the panel referring to the proposed deletion at the top of the article. Kind regards --Hauskalainen (talk) 01:19, 23 November 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for your vote on Earl Killian

Appreciated.--Tomwsulcer (talk) 16:53, 27 November 2010 (UTC)

Tablet personal computer requested move

As an FYI, there is a move discussion currently taking place relating to Tablet personal computer at Talk:Tablet_personal_computer#Requested_move. --Labattblueboy (talk) 18:56, 11 January 2011 (UTC)

Xbox 360 technical problems

FYI :) -- zzuuzz ^(talk) 12:08, 20 January 2011 (UTC)

Parallax Propeller: Good job!

Very nice improvement to Parallax Propeller. Thanks! Guy Macon 19:23, 2 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm intruiged...

• Cloud computing Maurice Carbonaro (→See also: Added *Fuzzy logic. Please feel free to undo this change. Thanks.)

Why? - Pointillist (talk) 11:10, 8 April 2011 (UTC)

Hallo there... so you feel intruigued today...

• Me too... Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:00, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Anyway seems like someone had an answer to your question. Cheers. Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:14, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Well, I do see this connection:

• Fuzzy logic is fuzzy
• Clouds are fuzzy
• The cloud computing article, and the whole concept of cloud computing at the moment is very fuzzy indeed, but has something to do with "Logic".

Don't worry, some sunny day the sky will become clear! LOL. Mahjongg (talk) 20:29, 11 April 2011 (UTC)

Hallo there. I am happy that you saw some logical connection. Unfortunately not everyone manages to find connections "watching clouds". Even from airplane windows. Please, have a nice weekend. Maurice Carbonaro (talk) 11:01, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Yes, you too. And speaking of deities, have a happy Ēostre celebration next week too. <grin> . Mahjongg (talk) 21:46, 15 April 2011 (UTC)

Srebrenica massacre

Thank you for fixing my accidental deletion of all the interwiki links on this page. I have no idea how that happened. My mouse must have developed a 'mind of its' own' and selected text I didn't intend to edit! Happy Editing! - 220.101 talk^\Contribs 07:34, 28 May 2011 (UTC)

you are very welcome, I already doubted it was vandalism, vandals normally do not also make valid edits together while removing material. Mahjongg (talk) 21:29, 28 May 2011 (UTC).

Just curious about excerpted or slanted summarized reference.....

In the wikipedia article about Theo Van Gogh, there is reference made to a "note", which is in fact not a note, rather a 5-page OPEN-LETTER adressing a THIRD PARTY. Surely as such, a link to a PROPER translation or an accurate summary of the gist of the letter should be published, AS THE NEWS MEDIA DID NOT PUBLISH THE LETTER. Particularly slanted in the abovementioned article is the mention of "ideology" excerpted or summarized from the "note". There is more reference to Talmud as an ideological factor in the letter than any other group, and as such, it is only proper that there should be fair mention of those facts (particularly in light of the specifically crude translation of the letter provided by a political spin website which is linked to the article). Unfortunately, I do not have the skills to mechanically edit wikipedia, and i feel that being blocked or having VALID edits removed entirely with such disregard is an abuse of wikipedia editing mores (if such a thing exists). — Preceding unsigned comment added by 58.147.235.216 (talk) 06:46, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Any material that you add to wikipedia must be reliable sourced, I know that means that many "truths" that are not aknowledged by "relible sources" therefore cannot be added to Wikipedia. But that is just the way it is. If the rules did not work that way the resulting anarchy wouldn't "work" either, it would still be a case of whoever (i.e. whichever group) shouts the loudest would "win". In fact there are no "truths", only opinions held as such by majorities. I sympathise with anyone who is genuinly a "truth seeker", but fortunately or unfortunately Wikipedia isn't the soapbox you might have hoped it was. P.S. I removed a few spaces from your comment, as these triggered the quatation function of wikipedia's text rendering system, making your comments really hard to read. P.P.S. I know I have heard mentioning that whatever was sticked to Theo van Goghs body with a knife was described as a letter, not as a simple note, I even seem to remember to have heard the gist of the contents. There -should- be some news article or such that has details, if you can find it it should count as a reliable source, and you can quote from it, while mentioning of the source, so it can be verified. It doesn't have to be something you can find online. Mahjongg (talk) 23:16, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Raspberry Pi

Nice job on Raspberry Pi. Much better than my version. Thanks! --Guy Macon (talk) 19:51, 31 October 2011 (UTC)

Write once read many

Your addition is correct but turns the article's small parenthetical digression into a very long one that doesn't bear directly on the subject of WORM. I'm thinking footnote for both. Spike-from-NH (talk) 13:12, 14 December 2011 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Data Applications International

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Data Applications International (DAI) was a company from the end of the 70s to the early 80s based at Dreve de Renards 6, Brussels that was specialized in creating "Real World Cards", computer periperial cards based on their own propriety DCEbus, which in essence consists of three groups of eight I/O lines (coming from an Intel 8255) . These were Eurocard compatible cards in a 19-inch rack. Most cards were also based on a single Intel 8255 chip.

Around 1977 they designed an early microcomputer, named the DAI Personal Computer. On May 6th, 1982 the company went bankrupt.

I have incorporated what little extra info there was into the DAI computer article, and removed the now redlink in the article. Mahjongg (talk) 16:46, 9 January 2012 (UTC)

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A pie for you!

For creating the Raspberry Pi article. (Just noticed this appreciation icon...) REH11 (talk) 20:33, 28 February 2012 (UTC)