Talk:David Firth

Devvo

"Under the pseudonym Devvo, David Firth has released videos, produced four short films for Screenwipe on Channel 4 and released several singles. Devvo is a character that parodies chav culture in the UK."

It is probably not intentional, but I think this could imply that Firth actually portrays the character of Devvo, which is not the case as the role is actually played by one of his friends. Maybe this should be reworded.

Malveril (talk) 05:46, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. Geo Seven (talk) 16:06, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Deletion and recreation

I am as optimistic as anyone about creating an article about David Firth. Before this article was deleted, there was much more information about him and his works. A few years ago, it was considered for deletion, and the consensus was to redirect "David Firth" to "Salad Fingers" (his most noteworthy work at the time), and of course, it was recently deleted completely.

So, why was this article deleted? And would it be appropriate to create the article again?

There is still information about David Firth from the previous article, courtesy of the Wayback Machine (the latest version is January 2007). Would it be appropriate to add this information to the article?

http://web.archive.org/web/20070101212310/http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Firth

Keshidragon (talk) 21:26, 27 July 2008 (UTC)

I think that David Firth article should not keep getting deleted because he is a very popular animator. He is a YouTube partner (doki66) and if there is an article about one of his animations then there should be a article about the owner, David Firth too, so the article should stay i think. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Dxzq (talk • contribs) 21:54, 1 August 2008 (UTC)

I agree. I heard of David Firth and his creations from a wide range of sources, from word-of-mouth to UK television. I relied on Wikipedia to provide more information about this interesting artist. Before this article was deleted, Wikipedia fulfilled and exceeded my expectations by serving the information I was after. Now it does not; the new article is very much sub-par. IMHO the original article should be restored. --82.71.4.31 (talk) 19:10, 2 August 2008 (UTC)

Why was this deleted in the first place??? YBK

I reckon it had something to do with a couple admins not much caring for the guy. To not include David Firth in Wikipedia is to not include Jesus in the Bible. "Fuck you, Graham!" Swamilive (talk) 00:14, 6 August 2008 (UTC)

I reckon it had something to do with three AfD discussions. --Geniac (talk) 13:50, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Y'reckon? Swamilive (talk) 15:47, 8 August 2008 (UTC)

Is it just me or does it seem like Wikipedia admins are becoming more anal than ever. This whole David Firth thing reminds me of the rediculously overblown debate on whether or not to have an Angry Video Game Nerd article.
It also reminds me of why I left Moby Games. I had a rare game they did not believe existed and because I could not find a source on the internet or a magazine to verify my claim that it existed they deleted it from the system.
Anyway I think there definatly should be an article on Firth, but on the other hand there really is no hard facts about the guy other than his works. Kind of a catch 22.
Either way though you would think that the article would mention some of his other popular works like Burnt Face Man or Men From Up The Stairs.
Geo Seven (talk) 16:13, 8 August 2008 (UTC)
Yes, they are most definitely becoming more anal lol —Preceding unsigned comment added by Omegakingboo (talk • contribs) 05:38, 14 July 2009 (UTC)

The most annoying thing was trying to read those Article for Deletion discussions and being swarmed with links to indecipherable acronyms under the WP namespace. This almost seems like a cant of sorts, designed to make such discussions extremely hard-to-follow to relative outsiders such as myself. I realize this is rather off-topic but seriously, why do people do that? Why can't you at least link to the full word. Is "Notability" that much harder to type than the letter "N"? --Insidious611 (talk) 17:09, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

You're thinking about the third one in particular. My personal theory is that if Firth was American, and had the same relative level of notability over there, any attempt to delete the article would result in the nominator being blocked for a week. -Ashley Pomeroy (talk) 22:06, 31 July 2010 (UTC)

Deletes this Son of a Beenatch-Jim (talk) 22:06, 31 July 2012 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 193.151.123.247 (talk)

Jerry Jackson?

It's still him, right? 64.20.10.210 (talk) 10:54, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes, Jerry Jackson is a Pseudonym of David Firth.

Conkern65 (talk) 18:23, 22 November 2010 (UTC)

Shouldn't be deleted

Definitely notable for Salad Fingers, and also for Devvo. Both of those have pages on wikipedia. Obviously, just being related to these two things doesn't mean he is notable enough for a page, but I don't see how he is not notable. He has done animations on Charlie Brookers screenwipe, various things for other shows, made animations for the BBC and playboy, so it's not like he's just some guy who happens to be related to multiple notable things.

EDIT: I know we're not meant to compare articles, but I see David Lovelace was also nominated for deletion but had it declined as notability was asserted. I'd have to say that Firth is far more notable than lovelace. At least from what I see. Anoldtreeok (talk) 04:09, 14 October 2010 (UTC)

Picture of David Firth

If no one is going to, I will upload a picture later. Conkern65 (talk) 20:18, 14 January 2011 (UTC)

English?

I think he's Welsh. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.17.134.7 (talk) 10:56, 8 May 2011 (UTC)

No, he's definitely English. He lives in the North of England. 82.32.11.95 (talk) 18:58, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Currently Titled Currently Titled

"He is currently working on his first animated feature film, currently titled "The Meadow Man". Firth believes the title will eventually change, though has said that for now it is the official title...".

The redundant, multiple uses of the word 'currently' with its synonym 'for now' should suggest immediate reconsideration. Basically the phrase 'currently titled' requires no explanation here.

Then... perhaps we can consider the way that way we identify a work of art relates not to the edict of the auteur, but to social conventions. Under capitalism no "title" is reliably permanent. The copyright holder of any work may re-title it for wise marketing reasons- or indefensible personal reasons- ad lib'[ie., 'at will']. And indeed we have seen composers who loathe the names and associations given to their music by their publishers. For 40 years Mozart's piano concerto #21 has been aka "Elvira Madigan".

OTOH import and originality tend to preserve auteur intent. Mozart wrote so many concertos that new names could be helpful. Hilarleo ^Hey,L.E.O. 07:48, 1 April 2012 (UTC)