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This article is highly outdated. The TFG government controls the entirety of the capital Mogadishu, and has made signficant gains throughout the south and central lands. Puntland and Somaliland in the North are both under full governmental control. |
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I think the introduction is sensationalist material not worthy of Wikipedia. Please edit ASAP. |
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Im not sure what you mean by "only applies to one ethnic group in country". Most of Somalia has some level of tribalism, I have toned down the language and provided more sources to back up my claim. Pass a Method talk 14:09, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
- I mean that the other ethnic groups in Somalia are not traditionally divided into clans; the Somali ethnic group in particular is. That's who those statements refer to i.e. the country's numerically dominant ethnic group. Bantus, for example, are traditionally organized into tribes, not clans (which are separate anthropological strata). They also trace descent matrilineally like other Bantus, not patrilineally as ethnic Somalis and most other Afro-Asiatic speaking communities do. It thus doesn't actually apply to most other Somalian nationals. Middayexpress (talk) 19:24, 25 February 2012 (UTC)
Picture "Political situation in Somalia as of July 2011" color ambigious
Political situation in Somalia as of July 2011
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Cannot determine light / dark green difference. Not know to be colorblind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Gematt (talk • contribs) 00:15, 9 March 2012 (UTC)
Potsdam conference
Potsdam conference took place in summer 1945,not November 1949 Ma1557 (talk) 16:21, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
- Correct. Middayexpress (talk) 17:30, 19 March 2012 (UTC)
Siad Barre
Surely a picture of Siad Barre, the longest serving President of Somalia (21 out of 52 years of independence) and the man who arguably defined Somalia's the vast majority of Somalia's modern history, is more fitting to be included in the article than a picture of a soldier or a propaganda pamphlet. I understand the need to reduce clutter, but there are pictures up that have little relevance to Somalia. This is akin to removing a picture of FDR to make room for a picture of an Abrams Tank. Yardalhirji (talk) 04:07, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Point taken, but the criteria is dictated by both relevance and WP:MOS. Middayexpress (talk) 14:57, 24 March 2012 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make more sense to have the picture of Barre first and then Kediye for the sake of clarity, as the sentence right before Kediye's picture reads "The putsch was spearheaded by Major General Mohamed Siad Barre, who at the time commanded the army." By the way,is there any particular reason you also edited the History of Somalia article and once again placed Kediye's picture next to the Supreme Revolutionary Council sub-section while Barre's picture (as head of the SRC) was confusingly placed next to the Rebellion sub-section, when in fact Kediye was executed for rebellion/treason later on by Barre? To the uniformed or those without much knowledge about Somalia's history, I fear there would be major confusion as to who of the two led the revolution and subsequently ruled, as some sentences in both articles seem to be mutually exclusive and contrary to what is accepted as the actual historical record, based mostly on an assertion (Kediye as Father of the Revolution) found in only one source. Also, this might not be the best place to ask this, but are you by any chance Somali? Yardalhirji (talk) 06:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- I'm afraid I don't reveal personal details. That said, Salaad Gabeyre Kediye is at the top because he was officially dubbed the "Father of the Revolution" (c.f. [1]). Barre only later became the head of the Supreme Revolutionary Council/SRC, which is discussed further down on both pages. This and more is already explained in detail here. Middayexpress (talk) 14:11, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
- Wouldn't it make more sense to have the picture of Barre first and then Kediye for the sake of clarity, as the sentence right before Kediye's picture reads "The putsch was spearheaded by Major General Mohamed Siad Barre, who at the time commanded the army." By the way,is there any particular reason you also edited the History of Somalia article and once again placed Kediye's picture next to the Supreme Revolutionary Council sub-section while Barre's picture (as head of the SRC) was confusingly placed next to the Rebellion sub-section, when in fact Kediye was executed for rebellion/treason later on by Barre? To the uniformed or those without much knowledge about Somalia's history, I fear there would be major confusion as to who of the two led the revolution and subsequently ruled, as some sentences in both articles seem to be mutually exclusive and contrary to what is accepted as the actual historical record, based mostly on an assertion (Kediye as Father of the Revolution) found in only one source. Also, this might not be the best place to ask this, but are you by any chance Somali? Yardalhirji (talk) 06:03, 28 March 2012 (UTC)
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KHATUMO
Estado de Somalia / State de Somalia
http://www.khatumo.com/ — Preceding unsigned comment added by 82.158.225.141 (talk) 07:54, 3 May 2012 (UTC)
This article is highly outdated. The TFG government controls the entirety of the capital Mogadishu, and has made signficant gains throughout the south and central lands. Puntland and Somaliland in the North are both under full governmental control.
I think the introduction is sensationalist material not worthy of Wikipedia. Please edit ASAP.