Hi again MRG. I've been updating the [[User:Moonriddengirl/Transwiki request|transwiki list]], I hope you don't mind. This is far more time consuming than I initially thought, so I'd like to pause this request for a while to see if I can trim this thing down to a much more reasonable size. I'll be back with something more reasonable. Thanks again for the help. [[Special:Contributions/64.40.54.97|64.40.54.97]] ([[User talk:64.40.54.97|talk]]) 15:54, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
Hi again MRG. I've been updating the [[User:Moonriddengirl/Transwiki request|transwiki list]], I hope you don't mind. This is far more time consuming than I initially thought, so I'd like to pause this request for a while to see if I can trim this thing down to a much more reasonable size. I'll be back with something more reasonable. Thanks again for the help. [[Special:Contributions/64.40.54.97|64.40.54.97]] ([[User talk:64.40.54.97|talk]]) 15:54, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, no, of course I don't mind. :) Just let me know when you're ready for me to resume! --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 15:58, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
:Oh, no, of course I don't mind. :) Just let me know when you're ready for me to resume! --[[User:Moonriddengirl|Moonriddengirl]] <sup>[[User talk:Moonriddengirl|(talk)]]</sup> 15:58, 10 June 2012 (UTC)
::Hi again. Sorry, but I came back. {{=)|smile}} I've [[User:Moonriddengirl/Transwiki request|trimmed down the list]], but it's still huge. You've already done so much that it's not really fair for me to ask for more. I feel bad about it. I'm going to ask a couple other admins if they'de be willing to help. Thanks again for everything. I really appreciate your help. [[Special:Contributions/64.40.54.81|64.40.54.81]] ([[User talk:64.40.54.81|talk]]) 16:42, 12 June 2012 (UTC)
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It seems that they've been doing merges without proper attribution for a while now. There's a complaint at WP:A/R/C about five of them in late April, and I've found at least one from early March on a cursory look through their contribs, so I'm suspecting that we'll need to do a more systematic check. What's the usual protocol for this kind of situation? Creating a new CCI case? Is that usual for CWW violations as opposed to external copyvio? T. Canens (talk) 13:50, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've started the page, Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/GreenUniverse, and noted the special circumstances in the background. I haven't listed it in the template yet. We may be able to address this without that step, especially if GreenUniverse would be willing to assist. That could avoid it dragging on for some time and help keep it kind of low drama. I think it may be helpful beyond the usual CCI format to look at his edit history and see when he is blanking content at other articles to help figure out when he may be moving material around. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:20, 5 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I could have placed in my user page but since you are the only person whom i truly care reads it...
As i wrote this i have a preview of the edit in my userpage with the "semi-retired" banner.
Don`t get me wrong i still love Wikipedia, i haven`t lost a bit of faith on the project, its just that the hunger, the drive to edit has faded, for a few months now i have only made like 100 edits a piece, and it certainly it isn`t for a lack of things to do.
It`s just that, well i assessed maybe 9, 000 albums articles, and upgraded over 6, 000, not that anyone cares, and it went to nothing, when i started, i still remember you taught me how to rate properly, there wer over 37, 000 articles, after all my work, there are over 35, 000, there are so many stubs that need only 5 minutes to be starts, but i no longer have the drive to dedicate those thankless minutes.
The barnstars you gave me are my most treasured things in all the Wiki, last time i got discouraged you told me to change activity and i did, i started creating articles and that got me going for a while, i started adding images to articles and adding reviews templates, but it`s just so much and no one notices, it`s not that i do this for the fame or anything but... i just got tired that`s all.
I still check my watchlist several times a day, specially for assessment request (habits die hard jejeje); retirement is not in sight, at least not in the foreseable future as far as i know the drive could be back tomorrow.
Lastly, and i can't put too much emphasis on this, ANYHTING you need, you let me know, an assessment, a RFC, a review, move the sofa up the stairs (you know, if i`m in town), anything; you let me know.
PS: Did i use the "Whom" correctly in the headline?
Oh, my friend, I am so sorry you feel this way. I understand completely how it is to get weary of repetitive work. I have cycled in my time through vandalism patrol to speedy deletion patrol to copyright work, and in the midst of those tasks I did article reviews and worked at the drawing board. It does sometimes feel never ending and as though the work has no meaning. Please don't ever believe it. If not for you, the list of articles would be so much higher than it is, and many article creators have appreciated the time you've given, I know. I know this because I appreciate it, when I write articles. :) I have recently decided that I can't continue with the same level of copyright work I've been trying to keep up for years now, and it was a hard decision, but it will allow me to keep Wikipedia fun. I hope that, perhaps, after you take a bit of a break the drive will come back for you, and the pleasure. There are many, many jobs that can be done, and I would be quite pleased to try to help you find something that would make you happy.
Whether the drive comes back or not, I hope you know that you've made a difference. On a personal level, you have helped me (remember that odd Spanish translation issue :D) and inspired me, and your presence makes me happy. You are kind and patient and thorough, and I love the sense of humor you display in edit summaries like this. :) (Not to mention your furniture moving! :D) I have your userpage on my watchlist, and though I missed your note on May 3rd, I saw your update yesterday and was proud of you. Your work has not only been motivational to me and to those article creators whom you've reviewed (especially the ones who request it, who otherwise might not have gotten the feedback they wanted), but it has also been informative and helpful to our readers. Dozens of people read articles you started every day. Using my magic copyright tool, I can tell you that you have edited 9,259 different articles. You've added substantial content to almost 2,000. I know every one of them is better for it.
I would not wish in any way to pressure you to stay if the fun goes out of Wikipedia for you, but I can still hope sincerely that that the fun comes back. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:03, 6 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I`ve read your message over and over, like 8 times now, and it makes me feel a sweet nostalgia every time. I can`t thank you enough for all the times you were there for me. If i get back full time, you`ll be the first one to know. Zidane tribal (talk) 04:05, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Seems aptly named, as it looks as though virtually ever edit by Iamnotcreative (talk·contribs) (and this editor is editing right now) is copyvio. Can't find them all and only reverted one so far, but there's clearly a problem. I've just posted to xhe's talk page about this. Dougweller (talk) 12:54, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I doubt it. I have been reverting pretty much everything, on the grounds of either copyvio or unsourced. Most of the "unsourced" is probably copyvio or at least unattributec copy/paste. Some could possibly be rapid-fire translations from non-English WPs etc. I am fairly sure that I have looked at every contribution made, but if anyone feels like checking ...
Well, I've looked through all of the new article creations in Special:Contributions/Thegn in detail, but not the other edits. Drink driving (United Kingdom), Paul Randolph, and Wolterton Hall just need another set of eyes to check against the potential sources that I identified on Jimbo's user talk page, confirm my conclusion, and tag the copyright violations if the whole edit history is polluted. (I'd appreciate you or one of your talk page stalkers doing that.) Boyle Farm requires more attention to determine its source, if there indeed was one.
Having said that, the non-creating edits are definitely worth reviewing, alas. This edit to Drink driving (United Kingdom) adds the text "you should contact us for expert professional advice" and "Again you should seek our help when you go to court" to a Wikipedia article. Clearly it's copied wholesale from a law practice's WWW page. The copied texts both from the original creation and the later edit still form the body of the current revision of the article.
I have opened the CCI and indefinitely blocked the contributor. He began receiving notices of copyright policy violations as early as 2006. He removed these, but does not seem to have modified his behavior. His most recent creation, now blanked, copied from an "all rights reserved" source. The CCI is located at Wikipedia:Contributor copyright investigations/Thegn. I plan to poke at it a bit today. --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:15, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
YGM
Hello, Moonriddengirl. Please check your email; you've got mail! Message added 19:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.— KC9TV19:43, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. :)
This situation is going badly, I'm afraid, and it isn't likely to end well unless everybody calms down and pulls back to look at what matters: the content.
I've read the email you sent me. Let's assume for the sake of argument that everything you assert in there is actually connected to this user. That still wouldn't mean the information was entered in an intent to deceive. Unless there is a pattern of entering false information, we are required by policy to assume that he is doing the best that he can to create a good encyclopedia article.
What really matters here is the content question. You have found something that is asserted as fact that you think is not fact. You may be right. The thing to do is request a reliable source to verify it and, if no source is forthcoming within a reasonable time, to remove the unsourced material. This is the recommended handling of disputed content in accordance with policy. WP:V says:
The burden of evidence lies with the editor who adds or restores material. You may remove any material lacking an inline citation to a reliable source. Whether and how quickly removal should happen depends on the material and the overall state of the article; consider adding a citation needed tag as an interim step.[1] Editors might object if you remove material without giving them time to provide references. It has always been good practice to try to find and cite supporting sources yourself.
I have been, in accordance with this, attempting to find and cite supporting sources myself. I haven't found any. The editor in question found one, but, as we know, the source is likely to be unreliable. The information is tagged as suspect; the thing to do now is give it a few days and see if a source is found. If not, the material will need to be modified or removed in accordance with such sources as are produced.
This whole thing is likely to go much better if the emotion is removed from the equation and it focuses solely on proving or removing the disputed claims. --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:50, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
In this case at least, I neither confirm nor deny the contents of any hypothetical E-mails that I might or might not had sent. I thank you. — KC9TV00:40, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
NM, looks like Fluffernutter has removed the AN/I posting so that things can be handled by oversight (which is something that I've literally never seen before; I've seen someone admonished for posting an oversight request on AN/I, but never seen the request removed). I guess I'll start drafting my unblock request ;) Chillllls (talk) 21:31, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
And now he's given me a UW-4 for my previous post here. I guess using emoticons on your talk page are grounds for a block. Can something be done here? Chillllls (talk) 22:02, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I've removed the warnings. There's nothing remotely "social network" about this. :/ Please note that his giving you a block warning doesn't mean you've done anything blockable, and you are welcome to remove material from your talk page that you do not want there. I'll take a look at the talk page. --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:21, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I'm aware that his warnings were meaningless, I just didn't revert them because I had a feeling that he was going to report me to AN/I for the second time in two hours and some of the more lazy folks at AN/I have a bit of trouble with page histories; I wanted everything out in the open and also didn't want to antagonize him by reverting them myself. Chillllls (talk) 22:48, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
If you want to revert me and put them back, of course, please feel free. I'm glad you weren't really worried; your "start drafting my unblock notice" worried me a bit. :D I didn't notice your wink, I'm afraid. I've got company and am a bit rushed for time. --Moonriddengirl(talk)22:49, 7 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello, Moonriddengirl. Please check your email; you've got mail! Message added 00:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC). It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can remove this notice at any time by removing the {{You've got mail}} or {{ygm}} template.— KC9TV00:59, 8 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there! Your name is one that I have seen mentioned everywhere wrt copyvio, so I hope you don't mind me approaching you directly regarding article copyvio issues? The article is Flowers Brass Band, and since creation it has been almost entirely a copy of the bands website history page. It has been updated periodically, again with content that is basically a direct lift from the website ( see http://www.flowersband.co.uk/content/history ). I'm not sure if it should be blanked/deleted/tagged or rewritten(beyond my capabilities), anyway can I leave it in your capable hands? best regards 94.195.187.69 (talk) 01:00, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. :) I'm happy to help; thanks for noticing the issue and following through with it! I've blanked the article with the copyright template and left a targeted message to the person who placed it, who is almost certainly a member of the band. That doesn't necessarily mean, though, that he has permission to license the content. We'll need to get this verified if it's to be retained. Now that people are emailed on default when notes are left on their talk pages, there's a pretty good chance he'll get the word. :) --Moonriddengirl(talk)11:58, 9 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry about that; that's pretty rude. :( I'm not an admin on Commons and have no special authority over there. I'm afraid you'll have to discuss it with them. Keep in mind, though, that misuse of the image may not concern them as much. You might want to consider an MFD for Template:Civility barnstar, though, since that one is a local matter. --Moonriddengirl(talk)12:51, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hello there, MRG. First, I want to thank you for your years of service to the project, especially CCI and your work for the WMF. The thing I really appreciate is that you care about the project and the people and I sincerly appreciate that. I hope you didn't mind my suggestion a short while ago possibly adding to your workload becuase I know you're busy as well as being one of the hardest working Wikipedians here.
I really hate asking for a bunch of deleted articles, but I'm hoping you might find time to help. I was hoping to get this list of articles added to another wiki so they can be worked on there. There is an automated tool here that will copy any article (that's in article space) over to that wiki and the tool automatically includes a list of previous contributors for attribution purposes. You've helped that Wiki before, so I'm hoping you'll help again. I'd like to think the process would be as easy as undeleting, using the tool and redeleting, but as an IP I don't have experience with undeletion. Also. some of these articles may have confused article histories being created, deleted, recreated, moved, redirected and so forth, so it might be more invloved. Perhaps you could do a few articles at a time over a period of weeks, but I know you busy so if you can't help I'll understand. Thanks very much for any help you can provide and thanks for being part of our project here. Kind regards. 64.40.54.97 (talk) 10:49, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. Thank you for your kind words, and, wow, that's a lot. :) I'm game to give it a go, as long as they were not deleted for copyright or potential libel. That tool of yours is pretty sweet. I've done the first ten (although a few of them weren't actually deleted; I'm annotating at User:Moonriddengirl/Transwiki request). I checked to make sure that the tool was working properly with the first several but then just assumed it was. Can you please let me know if something doesn't transwiki properly? And if I haven't managed to finish the list by the end of next weekend, please feel free to nudge me. I'm afraid that there's constantly something going on, and I do get distracted. But this shouldn't be too time-consuming if the first 10 are any indication. I would imagine I could complete it within a couple of hours. --Moonriddengirl(talk)12:47, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks very much MRG, it very generous of you to help and I really appreciate it.
"wow, that's a lot." Yes, I apologize for asking for so many. With your permission, I will go through the transwiki list you set up and comment on the ones that have been userfied so that they can be skipped. Thanks again for all your help. 64.40.54.97 (talk) 14:05, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh yeah, I just wanted to mention that this isn't urgent, so please take all the time you need. I know your busy with other things. Thanks again. 64.40.54.97 (talk) 14:07, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again MRG. I've been updating the transwiki list, I hope you don't mind. This is far more time consuming than I initially thought, so I'd like to pause this request for a while to see if I can trim this thing down to a much more reasonable size. I'll be back with something more reasonable. Thanks again for the help. 64.40.54.97 (talk) 15:54, 10 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi again. Sorry, but I came back. I've trimmed down the list, but it's still huge. You've already done so much that it's not really fair for me to ask for more. I feel bad about it. I'm going to ask a couple other admins if they'de be willing to help. Thanks again for everything. I really appreciate your help. 64.40.54.81 (talk) 16:42, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Freedom of panorama
hello,
I am writing to you as you are always a help. ;) Last time the article List of churches in Moscow failed the featured list nomination as it was against 5b as there is no freedom of panoarama in Russia and I am not allowed to put the pictures without attributing to the living architect. So I ask you, was the decision really correct? If it was, what exactly should I do to meet this criteria? Should I contact the architect and ask if it is possible to use it here under a specific rationale? Regards.--GoPTCN13:08, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hi. :) It is correct that Russia does not have freedom of panorama - at least Commons:Commons:Freedom of panorama says so, and I think they're really good about keeping up that list. People in Russia who publish pictures of buildings that are still in copyright may be liable for prosecution for infringement. That said, the United States does allow pictures of buildings, and their law is generally what governs on Wikipedia. I'm not sure why use of images within policy here would bar a list from being featured, but I'm not really sure what those criteria are.
Are the images still on Wikipedia or Commons? I might suggest asking at WP:MCQ. If they were on Commons but were removed, they may be permitted on Wikipedia under US law. --Moonriddengirl(talk)13:41, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Having asked you in the past about copyvios at similar multi-sport event articles, I'm wondering if it may have come from the same user? Is it worth looking through his past contributions for copy-and-paste material and opening a CCI? —Strange Passerby (talk • cont) 15:17, 12 June 2012 (UTC)[reply]
^It may be that the article contains so few citations that it is impractical to add specific citation needed tags, in which case consider tagging a section with {{unreferencedsection}}, or the article with {{refimprove}} or {{unreferenced}}.
