User talk:ItsZippy

Deathlaser

Please take him off the autopatrol. Most of his articles are like Annona incana and this. He's a kid and evidently isn't fluent in English. His articles have multiple errors whether its faulty link or just basic bad spelling and grammar.♦ Dr. Blofeld 16:45, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I think you're right. I've been monitoring him for a few days; I don't think I should have given it in the first palce, which was a lapse of judgement on my part. Sorry for any difficulties I've caused. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 17:12, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

So, I m not good enough. You don't want "kids" on wikipedia. In that case, I will leave. No clean-starts or anything. I will just leave.In addition from now on I will speak like a general teenager.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:33, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Wat r u doin (like this)!--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:33, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Deathlaser, I did not remove the right because you are a teenager, I removed it because a number of the article you created had significant problems. I regret that you feel bad, though I understand why you would - I apologise for giving it you in the first place and causing this trouble. If you really want to leave over this, that's up to you, but I would encourage you to keep up the good work you've been doing to build this encyclopedia - regardless of the userrights you have, it is appreciated. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 17:36, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Good 4 u.--Deathlaser :  Chat  17:38, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

It wouldn't really concern me if you were an 11 year old. Its not because of your age, its because you are creating articles with very basic spelling mistakes, grammar errors, writing in note form and occasionally dead links in references like the other day. Sorry, we encourage you to write on wikipedia but we also expect a minimum standard of writing which I don't think you're yet capable of so shouldn't have auto patrol rights.♦ Dr. Blofeld 17:50, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I will get my revenge, some day.--Deathlaser :  Chat  18:07, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Blofeld is expecting that, as you can tell by his talk page. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 18:09, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it's quite fair to say that ItsZippy is opposed to young people using Wikipedia, since, by his own account, he's a teenager. Mark Arsten (talk) 18:21, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Does wikipedia have a sub-page limit.--Deathlaser :  Chat  18:35, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

You persist Death Laser in seeing everything as a personal confrontation. Again it is not a confrontation or anything personal, simply the fact you are creating articles with multiple basic errors and were on autopatrol which is intended for editors who can be trusted to not do so.♦ Dr. Blofeld 18:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Ok,ok, I calmed down.--Deathlaser :  Chat  18:54, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Admin's Barnstar
	I like giving Barnstars. Thanks for deleting the ShreeVilvamYogaCenter article I CSD'd! Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 17:49, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Hio!

Is User:Thine Antique Pen/Articles Created 3 better than User:Thine Antique Pen/Articles Created? Also, could you take a look at my CSD log? Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:12, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

The newer one looks nicer, I think. Your CSD log is looking good - I see JohnCD commented on you A1 and A3 tags, which looks like sound advice. Other than that, you're generally doing well. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 20:33, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

Okay! Thanks! --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:40, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

• Also, another thing. Could you take a look at my recent edits? Are they better than I was earlier this year? --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 12:42, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

My Userpage

I've Dr. Blofeldied it, LOL. Take a look at it now. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 18:55, 3 June 2012 (UTC)

Religious language

Sorry for the delay, but I looked at the section you mentioned on my talk page, it seems to read fine to me. Hope exams are going well! Mark Arsten (talk) 17:34, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks - I'm glad it works; it has the potential to be incredibly convoluted and unhelpful. And thanks - exams aren't going too badly; revision is just so boring. I'm done next Thursday, though! ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 17:36, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

User Thine

Care to put him on autopatrol, the log is getting massive and they're all fine! if he botches up in future he can always go back like Deathlaser was.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 20:24, 6 June 2012 (UTC)

My recent articles are much better like Mechanical pest control, I don't need autopatrolled, but I was just wondering if I am a better editor right now.--Deathlaser (talk) 16:51, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

It seems User: Keilana has done it already. I'm slightly concerned that this will cause undue drama (as the length discussion at WP:PERM is illustrating) - I think a full community discussion is now desirable to finally resolve whether Thine's topic ban for requesting permissions should remain and, if it does, whether it also excludes others from nominating him. I fear that this will not get resolved by different people repeatedly nominating, granting and the revoking Thine's autopatrolled. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 19:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

MBisanz is okay with it though. :) Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:37, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

He has yeah. But the editor is so darned passionate its difficult to deter him! ♦ Dr. Blofeld 19:41, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

My only response is: Mwhahahaha. :D --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 19:44, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Eurg, it's disappointing how much drama your rights cause, TAP. Personally, I support your autopatrolled - you seem to have matured over the last month and are now a constructive editor, not to mention the deluge of articles you've created. Nevertheless, I'm not sure that this is over - Keilana's decision was far from unanimous and there'll be those who still want it removed. I'd really like some kind of full community discussion about your topic ban, otherwise, I'm worried we'll end up going round in circles over it for some time to come. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 20:01, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Many who don't support it all seem like the same editor to me. I've emailed you. --Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:03, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

For what it's worth, there was an AN discussion this morning (US time) closed as too early for discussion, but it was specifically a proposal to lift TAP's topic ban. I do think this should be discussed, and if another admin thinks my decision to give TAP autopatrolled needs review, I'd of course welcome a public discussion on AN or ANI or wherever. Let's minimize drama...that was my goal in the first place. Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 20:17, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Yeah, I saw that discussion. I understand the desire to minimise drama - for now, perhaps it's ok. However, I can't see this lasting (maybe I'm just pessimistic). I think that, if someone revokes the right again, or considering discussion begins again, a final comment at AN or RFCU would be useful. For now, maybe we're fine - if this finally calms it down, I'll be happy. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 20:19, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Agreed, I'd almost prefer that to create a more clear picture of the community's stance. We've already had an issue where some editors (can't remember who off the top of my head) were upset that others were requesting autopatrolled on TAP's behalf - this says to me that there needs to be clarification on whether or not TAP is allowed to obtain rights even if he does not request them, if there is another kerfuffle. (sorry for the ridiculous run-on sentence) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 20:24, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree - and I believe that's probably more important that the topic ban itself. TAP has not requested any rights since he was banned from doing so; it has been numerous requests from other editors that have caused issues. As we've said, there's no point in having a long discussion if this has finally calmed down; if further problems develop, I think a discussion on these issues would be helpful. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 20:26, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

I'm glad to see we're on the same page; let's get back to writing an encyclopedia now. I find drama to be far less enjoyable than research and writing. :) Keilana|^{Parlez ici} 20:28, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Time to find some stubs to make! Regards, Thine Antique Pen (talk • contributions) 20:29, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

It's worth avoiding some confusion here, if the issue does arise again. Far as I can work out, there is no community-opposed ban on TAP asking for rights. There is an agreement he entered into with an individual admin in order to get unblocked. That admin (MBisanz) pretty much explicitly said, later, that if patrollers want TAP to have a particular right, he (MBisanz) has no objection. That in turn entails that the restriction on TAP does not affect others proposing him for rights.

Of course, the community may choose to impose a stricter limitation on his edits than the original agreement stipulated; but initiating a discussion with that as a proposal, doesn't seem especially helpful, for the reasons you've already suggested. --Demiurge1000 (talk) 20:33, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the clarification - I had wondered. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 20:36, 7 June 2012 (UTC)

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G11

My Cambridge Mercantile Page has been deleted for unambiguous advertising or promotion. Can you please explain to me what exactly was the main issue with the page and what I should remove from it in order to be restored. Thanks Dcapland (talk) 18:39, 12 June 2012 (UTC) Dana

Hi there, Dcapland. I deleted your article because it seemed very promotional - if you want to create it again, you will have to deal with this problem. The key to this is neutrality: you need to describe the company without supporting it or endorsing it in any way - just describe what is it and what it does. It is also a good idea to find reliable, independent sources for your information which will give you some idea as to how to present the article. As a starting point, reading WP:NPOV and WP:PROMO will give you helpful advice. I suggest you start by creating a userspace draft which will allow you to work on the article more slowly and get advice before publishing it as a full article. If you would like, I can restore the deleted article into your userspace so that you can work to improve that, rather than stat from scratch - let me know if want me to. If you need any help with improving the article, just let me know and I'd be more than happy to help. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 22:11, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Moq (library) article deletion

Why was this page deleted? I guess that it's been confonded with the other MOQ page with which you might yourself be more familiar. I don't think they should exclude eachother though. Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 81.30.33.57 (talk) 07:45, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. I deleted the article Moq (library) because of this deletion discussion. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 21:04, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

Please restore it so I can fix the page into not endorsing the company thanks! Dcapland (talk) 13:06, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

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Cambridge Mercantile Group

can you please restore my article? I completely changed it yet it got deleted again. tell me how to fix it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcapland (talk • contribs) 17:31, 13 June 2012 (UTC)

What I wanted to fix for the Cambridge Mercantile Group page is just to include an about us, history, and specific services. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dcapland (talk • contribs) 13:35, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

DRN case

Am I authorized to re open the case:[1]because the board I initially placed in under "can also be used for resolving simple disputes regarding conduct or content." The case falls under the category of conduct and should be appropriate for this noticeboard. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.163.35.69 (talk) 23:25, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi there. The page you posted that case on - the dispute resolution noticeboard is only for disputes about the content of the page (the banner at the top says that); I don't know where you got the quotation about it being for conduct disputes too. As I said when closing, if you wish to pursue the issue, go to WP:ANI. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 23:29, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

Religious language

It looks like a really good article - I just think that the title was too broad for the specialized topic. But perhaps you ought to have waited with moving it untill someone else gave their opinion too? I didn't mean to force you to move it if you think that it was at the right title, just to stimulate the discussion. Unless of course you simply agreed with my statement and thought the title I suggested was simply better. Anyway I wish you good luck at FAC with an interesting and well written article.·ʍaunus·snunɐw· 13:49, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the feedback. I think you were probably right about the article title, which is why I moved it (though perhaps I was a little hasty). ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 13:51, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Contested Prod

Hi - Persian Toon, a page you nominated for PROD back in April, was contested after deletion so I've restored it. As the notability is still doubtful, you may want to take it to AfD.  An optimist on the run! 09:22, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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Park (band)

Hello. I notice you've A7'ed Park (band) as a non-notable musical ensemble. However, this band meets WP:MUSIC. The band's Allmusic page ([2]) lists an extensive biography, as well as several releases on Lobster Records; this meets WP:MUSIC on its own, but I also have several other reviews which further substantiate the band's importance ([3], [4], [5], and others). Can you please restore it? Chubbles (talk) 20:12, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Yep, sorry about that - I've restored the article. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 21:32, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

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Request for copyedit of Religious language

Hey - as you've noticed, we have a backlog at the guild of copyeditors. I'm currently involved with a couple of articles, so I probably won't be able to help. But I wanted to take a look, and saw that you recently changed the name - relist the article under the new name! Don't despair with us! I assume the new name is Religious language problem? Don't hesitate to contact copyeditors directly via the guild's members list. Sorry, I probably won't be able to do it myself. ʝunglejill 22:06, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Peter Singer

Hi ItsZippy,

I'm going to have a full read of religious language in the next day or so and try and find some intelligent and useful things to say at FAC.

I was wondering, I haven't really got involved in writing either GAs or FAs, or really contributing to philosophy articles: I had a bit of a brainwave today about getting Peter Singer to GA. I've already started making some improvements both to the main article and to some of the related articles (Famine, Affluence, and Morality, Animal Liberation (book) etc.) as I read various sources on and by Singer. Any advice or pointers on going for GA? Thanks. —Tom Morris (talk) 22:18, 16 June 2012 (UTC)

Hi there, Tom. The Singer article looks ok: at a glance, it seems well sourced, broad enough in scope, and written reasonably well. I'll have a read sometime next week and give you my more detailed views (by about Wednesday, if I can). Looks like an article worth pursuing, though. ItsZippy ^{(talk • contributions)} 15:02, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Lead

I can't write a GA lead, too hard!--Deathlasersonline (talk) 10:48, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

Well, the reality will be that it won't become a Good Article. ⇒TAP 10:54, 17 June 2012 (UTC)

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Authority Control Integration

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CVUA

Hello, ItsZippy! Your contribution reverting, warning, and reporting vandals have not gone unnoticed. Thank you, your expertise is appreciated. But have you ever wondered what will happen when you're gone? Who will Patrol for vandalism when you're on a WikiBreak, or just asleep? Never fear! Because now you can help train the next wave of Counter-Vandals. Consider signing up to be an instructor at the Counter-Vandalism Unit Academy! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 19:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

Electriccatfish2 (talk) 19:57, 18 June 2012 (UTC)

We have too many vandal-fighters, in fact there are so many, some of them are asked to go away!--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:09, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

We'd love to have you! You don't need to be a full-time vandal fighter. I clearly see that you have a lot to offer and we would all love to have you! You clearly have a lot to offer and we really want to have you on board. I think our students would benefit greatly from an Admin-Instructor. Please join us! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 17:16, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

By the way, you don't need to use all of the tools. Some of our instructors don't use anything but Rollback! Electriccatfish2 (talk) 17:18, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Using Huggle allows you to revert vandalism at a rate 20X faster rate, V.sniper will be even faster as it's 1-click. But every-one thinks I am traitor!--Deathlasersonline (talk) 17:23, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

Gove and the royal yacht

Hey! I reverted your edit to this removing the section as I felt there probably needed to be a bit more discussion about it (and more specifically because there are, tbh, a shed load of sources about it). I've started that on the article talk page. You could well be right about it needing to go btw - I just wasn't sure. Blue Square Thing (talk) 17:21, 19 June 2012 (UTC)