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Old deletion you participated in: David R. Hawkins

Requesting Restoration of David R. Hawkins: I ran across this fellow and noticed his page was deleted on a PROD a couple of years ago but prior to that you had over-trurned your own deletion on this one. This doctor, author and lecturer is clearly known, even the most-brain dead of the over-zealous admins should be able to see that this guy is notable. He is anAmerican but even the German wiki has a decent sized article on him: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_R._Hawkins Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 05:17, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Years ago, I became involved in this article due to a lot of issues going on at OTRS. I mostly overturned my deletion because I restored one edit that was within policies about living people and getting rid of a lot of unsourced information. What I would suggest is to go to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_undeletion and have the page undeleted. I prefer to have a new set of eyes to look at this article. I have nothing against this man or his ideas, or even give a second thought about it, but with the vindictive nature of how some people are on this site when it comes to restorations and deletions, I want someone who never dealt with this before. (Also, I am from the US, but we have a lot of people who do not check before tagging). User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 05:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

The German article is indeed long, but it isn't sourced at all. Creating a new talk page for a deleted article isn't a good idea and I'll delete it. I've looked at the latest version of the article, which had nothing I could see that would make him pass our criteria for notability although co-authoring a book with Pauling seems impressive, but getting a PhD from the unaccredited Columbia Pacific University is anything but impressive. And in fact, he didn't co-author the book (nor does he claim to have co-authored it), he was co-editor, not quite the same thing. Dougweller (talk) 10:04, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

And that was one of the issues we had here is a lot of the information was unsourced (and we got email complaints on that years ago). I do not plan on restoring the article and I will let REFUND deal with it. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 17:11, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Well, Doug isn't impressed by the man's second doctoral degree so he doesn't meet the notable criteria. I am not impressed by Doug, criticizing the man's Phd and overlooking his MD, also particularly in stating a co-authorship of "the book", when you can clearly see that he has authored numerous books, lectured across the world and founded several organizations. Picking and choosing facts and information. Anyway, Zscout370, didn't intend to carry this out on your page. I don't intend to write the article, just point out another very obvious error made here. Absurd. Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 18:51, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I have no problems with this being carried out on my talk page, I was involved with the article before and you made the right decision to come here. But in short, I been heavily involved in the past and I need someone else to look at the article with a fresh set of eyes. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 19:38, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I have better things to write about than Hawkins. He may be notable enough for an article, I really don't know, but a lot of the things you put on my page don't help with WP:NOTE, from his mail order PhD to the " Physicians Recognition Award" which isn't a big deal at all. I don't know why you don't want to put the time in to find out what might meet our criteria and use that in your userpace, but if you don't, I can't see why you'd expect me to. Dougweller (talk) 20:27, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I meant to say that the knighthood might help, but avoid all the trivia, don't overload it. Stick to only the things that are going to clearly meet our criteria at WP:PEOPLE, etc. Dougweller (talk) 20:29, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I see that you deleted in the info from your talk page, I left you. I am not really sure why you feel the need to "direct" me in composing an article on David R. Hawkins, as I have stated, I have little interest in the man, but I can clearly see that he is notable. That is my argument to your objection. ...and I have far better things to do as well, than write about him; he has clearly met the notability requirements for BLP, but his "non-notablity" has been placed in notes as for admin reasoning for deletion and he continues to been seen in English-Wiki as not notable. That's the point. Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 20:39, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

Doug, I don't intend to make this a big issue, I do feel that there is some bias here on the part of the admins in the notes that I could find, arguing 'psuedo-science', but I bothered to look into this guy once he came into my awareness and it is very easy to see that he is not even in the "minor leagues" he has actually made in impact in multiple areas. And you keep berating his "mail-order PhD", yet the guy has his MD and is an American Medical Association (life time member along with 35+ other MEDICAL memberships not to mention his over a dozen books in multiple languages and lectures around the world. Seriously this is just skewed and overly obtuse on your part, to argue points like Columbia as his school and "Physicians Recognition", when the man has been on national TV and Founded the first zen center in the US. Asinine! Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 21:09, 12 July 2012 (UTC)

I see the page has been restored, ok. However, Iconoclast, it was not a smart move to have copied the information directly from a mirrored source. I state this because I had problems in the past with that version (hence why I became involved in this article in the first place due to complaints on our OTRS email system). There was a lot of issues with that text and it wasn't the best move. I know a lot of stuff was taken out in other edits, but I think a complete rewrite is what would be needed for this article to even be up to our standards. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 02:45, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

Yes, I just didn't really feel like coming up with all of that information again on this fellow, I may do several things that aren't the best move; hence why after 8 years I have never opted to be an admin but it gets the job done and I don't really have to be as concerned about vindictive easily wounded egos of most of the single-minded deletionist admin brownshirt brigade. I have enough to research everyday in the real world with people who pay. I have deleted the bulk of the article already and those who are concerned can edit and wikify the rest. I simply felt this author should not have remained deleted based on the reasons given. Alls well. Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 04:24, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

I don't blame you at all, but mostly just giving you my two cents. I also agree it should not have been proded, but go through the formal 7 day process where the community decides. I also do not blame you for not wanting to be a sysop; I mostly only use it now when it comes to image work and for OTRS work, I rarely deal with blocking/unblocking users anymore due to issues in the past. Anyways, if you have any questions or concerns about this article, feel free to drop a line here or via email. Good to deal with you. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 04:42, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

If I had been able to see the talk:archives on this page going back to 2005, I would have probably never messed with it either. What a can of worms over this fellow. Iconoclast.Horizon (talk) 08:15, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

That is another thing I was surprised about; there was deleted edits and the deleting admins never spoke to me about it when they did this in 2010. I wish the talk page was still up, but I digress. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 16:33, 13 July 2012 (UTC)

File:Baroque false relation.JPG

Your nomination of File:Baroque false relation.JPG for deletion was never completed, I have reverted the tag for now. Please feel free to renominate/complete it at your convenience. Monty₈₄₅ 18:40, 14 July 2012 (UTC)

Guess the page was messing up for me; anyways, I listed it for deletion again for having a Commons copy at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Baroque_false_relation.svg User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 03:00, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Often its the result of WP:Twinkle encountering an edit conflict at FFD. It doesn't try again, and its common for the error to be overlooked. Monty₈₄₅ 03:20, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Nomination for deletion of Template:Barnstar of National Merit

Template:Barnstar of National Merit has been nominated for deletion. You are invited to comment on the discussion at the template's entry on the Templates for discussion page. mabdul 12:58, 15 July 2012 (UTC)

Wrong Category in Wikipedia

Hi Zach: It's me Eric_Soong from nationalanthems.us. Recently I was working on rendering Manchu script into SVG for the infobox of Manchukuo as it could not display properly without the font Mongolian Baiti. I was about to create a category in Wikimedia Commons, but unfortunately I mis-clicked the wrong tab in my browser. I was wondering that if you could kindly help me to delete it if possible. I have also nominated that page for speedy deletion and I'll thank you in advance.

Category:Texts_in_Manchu_script_rendered_in_SVG

PS. Recently I have done the work on the Emblem of North Korea after 1992. : )

-- Ericmetro (talk) 17:04, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

I saw your work on the North Korean emblem; wow I didn't know it was you! Anyways, what is the category that needs to be deleted? User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 17:11, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

The category is gone and I removed it from being used. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 17:16, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

It's: Category:Texts_in_Manchu_script_rendered_in_SVG

Hehe, thank you! By the way I also did the work on the new version of the PRC emblem.

EDIT: Okay - Thanks a lot! : )

--Ericmetro (talk) 17:21, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

Well sorry but maybe I didn't explained it clearly as I failed to link the category on English Wikipedia. It's not the category in Commons but the one I mis-created on English Wikipedia:

It's this one. Still I'm going to create that category on Commons later when I upload those scripts. : ) -- Ericmetro (talk) 17:28, 23 July 2012 (UTC)

File:BBC portal logo.svg listed for deletion

A file that you uploaded or altered, File:BBC portal logo.svg, has been listed at Wikipedia:Files for deletion. Please see the discussion to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Bulwersator (talk) 15:45, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Not surprised honestly. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 20:16, 2 August 2012 (UTC)

Wanted to reintroduce Stavros Niarchos III

Very much in the New York City social scene: http://www.style.com/trendsshopping/stylenotes/041111_It_Boys/slideshow/?loop=0&iphoto=10&play=false&cnt=11

Recently bought an important modernist home in LA slated for demolition (a big deal in LA as they don't tend to preserve their historic architecture): http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/13/realestate/big-deal-in-beverly-hills-preservation-gains-a-toehold.html

Generally seems to have grown up a bit, surprised there was only his granddad, Stavros Niarchos in Wikipedia when I looked. thanks--Aichikawa (talk) 17:11, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

When I deleted the article back in 2009, it mostly had information about who he dated. I still feel his main stock in life is a socialite, from looking at these links. I don't feel comfortable restoring the article. User:Zscout370 ^{(Return Fire)} 17:35, 8 August 2012 (UTC)

File:Flag of Russia.svg

Just wanted to note that there's a local copy of the Commons file here on the English Wikipedia which needs to be updated too. Thanks <flrn> 12:47, 12 August 2012 (UTC)