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Yeah, you misunderstand my concerns. I made a lengthy post at Talk:GAN about the reasons why I quick failed it, if you need more specifics check the articles GA review.[[User:ChrisGualtieri|ChrisGualtieri]] ([[User talk:ChrisGualtieri|talk]]) 16:15, 11 December 2012 (UTC) |
Yeah, you misunderstand my concerns. I made a lengthy post at Talk:GAN about the reasons why I quick failed it, if you need more specifics check the articles GA review.[[User:ChrisGualtieri|ChrisGualtieri]] ([[User talk:ChrisGualtieri|talk]]) 16:15, 11 December 2012 (UTC) |
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== José de San Martín a GA? == |
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Hi, Pyrotec. I wanted to make a few comments about [[José de San Martín]] if you don't mind. |
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#Lead: it mentions an [[Order of the Liberator General San Martín]] which is no where to be seen in the main body of the article. The lead is supposed to be as summary of the article. |
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#Lead: San Martín is regarded a national hero of Argentina? By whom? All the Legacy section says was tht he was acclaimed by Federals. Do these speak for the Argentine people? (see below my thoughts about the Legacy section) |
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#Lead:For a character like San Martín, supposedly one of the great historical figures of Spanish South America, the lead seems short and weak. |
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#Main text: Who was San Martín? Was he dark-haired? Blond? Tall? Fat? Joyful? Intelligent? Stupid? Rude? I couldn't find anywhere any description of the man. We could change the title of the article to "Argentina during the life time of an Martín" instead. |
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#Early life: no reference given at the end of the first paragraph. |
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#Military career in Europe: "''His ship "Santa Dorotea" was captured by British forces, who kept him prisoner for some time.''" It was his ship or the ship he was aboard? Why was he captured by the British? They were enemies? And why and how was he released? |
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#Everything else: too much to be said in here. |
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#Later life: entirely written according to Galasso's ''Seamos libres y lo demás no importa nada''. No other books could be found do add further proof or give a different perspective? |
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#Legacy: a man like San Martín can have at most two short paragraphs about him in the Legacy section? The entire section is written from the point of view of one author only: Galasso. There are no other historians? No one else? No one at all? |
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#Legacy: "''With Mitre's book, San Martín was universally acclaimed as the Liberator of Argentina''..." Acclaimed by whom? 10 out of 10 Argentines love this guy? Really? I could understand something like "''San Martín is generally regarded''..." but "''universally''"? All historians regard him like that, then? Again: only Galasso's opinion is given. |
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#References: Holy s&%#! The article has four books as references? Four?!!! Could we make an article about George Washington with just four books? |
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#References: There is no book in English. Why not? Historian [[John Lynch (historian)|John Lynch]] wrote ''San Martin: Argentine Soldier, American Hero''. There are several other works in English about San Martín too. |
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#References: Look at the references: the entire article was written almost entirely using Galasso's ''Seamos libres y lo demás no importa nada'' (see for yourself). That's all? |
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Well, the article should be at most B, certainly not a GA, unless the standards are very low nowadays. You shouldn't pass the article, it has to be improved a lot until it is worth the GA label. Regards, --[[User:Lecen|Lecen]] ([[User talk:Lecen|talk]]) 10:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC) |
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Hi Pyrotec. I have recently completed the above having gone through a major restructure and a thorough peer review which is drawing to a close. If it is at all possible, I would love it if you could review it for me at GAC. It would be great to work with you again :-) -- CassiantoTalk 23:15, 23 October 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Cassianto. Thanks for your invitation. I can review it, but I have four reviews (I'm the reviewer, not the nominator) underway already, so even if I sign up day, it could be November before I start doing the review. If you are happy with that, I'll take it on. Pyrotec (talk) 11:28, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Oh that is good news. Anytime in November would be excellent, no hurry for this whatsoever. My plan is to coincide Grimaldi's FAC (the Drury Lane theatre's Chrismas pantomime Clown in the 18th century) in time for Christmas. I haven't listed it at GAC by the way, as I had you in mind all along. Ping me a message when your ready. -- CassiantoTalk 14:02, 24 October 2012 (UTC)
- Last minute polishing complete. Now listed at GAC. Regards -- CassiantoTalk 17:22, 12 November 2012 (UTC)
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Thanks for taking the time to review the article. I've got some free time coming up this week to make those corrections. Ace-o-aces (talk) 05:20, 19 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Pyrotec, how's the back log going? -- CassiantoTalk 17:41, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Cassianto. I can signed up to review it, not a problem for me: I have two reviews "On Hold" (I'm likely to fail one due to lack of progress) and there are another two still to do. So on that basis, you would probably need to wait for about a week before anything happens. Pyrotec (talk) 17:56, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- Great news, Many thanks. My Wiki time will be very scarce between 26 and 28 November as I am on a course, but can foresee no other problems after that. I have listed JG at FAC so by all means stake your claim; I would be happy with that. At least l'll know then that I won't have to endure the embarrassment in telling a willing good will reviewer "thanks but no thanks" . Secondly, great GAC reviewers are a very rare breed, so I can be assured of a very thorough review with you as opposed to one who merely wants to notch up another strike on his/her user page, thus giving a half-hearted review. All the best and speak soon. -- CassiantoTalk 19:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- Thanks for your kind comments. I've now signed up to do it, but its fourth in a list of four (and I seems to be taking my wikipedia weekends off on Mondays and Tuesdays - strange that!). Pyrotec (talk) 19:21, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
- Great news, Many thanks. My Wiki time will be very scarce between 26 and 28 November as I am on a course, but can foresee no other problems after that. I have listed JG at FAC so by all means stake your claim; I would be happy with that. At least l'll know then that I won't have to endure the embarrassment in telling a willing good will reviewer "thanks but no thanks" . Secondly, great GAC reviewers are a very rare breed, so I can be assured of a very thorough review with you as opposed to one who merely wants to notch up another strike on his/her user page, thus giving a half-hearted review. All the best and speak soon. -- CassiantoTalk 19:15, 21 November 2012 (UTC)
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Hi Pyrotec, just another quick thanks for taking on Joseph Grimaldi. Your time spent on the GA review was much appreciated. All the best! -- CassiantoTalk 12:37, 4 December 2012 (UTC)
- Hi Cassianto, Thanks for your note. My pleasure. Pyrotec (talk) 19:23, 6 December 2012 (UTC)
Talkback notice.
Yeah, you misunderstand my concerns. I made a lengthy post at Talk:GAN about the reasons why I quick failed it, if you need more specifics check the articles GA review.ChrisGualtieri (talk) 16:15, 11 December 2012 (UTC)
José de San Martín a GA?
Hi, Pyrotec. I wanted to make a few comments about José de San Martín if you don't mind.
- Lead: it mentions an Order of the Liberator General San Martín which is no where to be seen in the main body of the article. The lead is supposed to be as summary of the article.
- Lead: San Martín is regarded a national hero of Argentina? By whom? All the Legacy section says was tht he was acclaimed by Federals. Do these speak for the Argentine people? (see below my thoughts about the Legacy section)
- Lead:For a character like San Martín, supposedly one of the great historical figures of Spanish South America, the lead seems short and weak.
- Main text: Who was San Martín? Was he dark-haired? Blond? Tall? Fat? Joyful? Intelligent? Stupid? Rude? I couldn't find anywhere any description of the man. We could change the title of the article to "Argentina during the life time of an Martín" instead.
- Early life: no reference given at the end of the first paragraph.
- Military career in Europe: "His ship "Santa Dorotea" was captured by British forces, who kept him prisoner for some time." It was his ship or the ship he was aboard? Why was he captured by the British? They were enemies? And why and how was he released?
- Everything else: too much to be said in here.
- Later life: entirely written according to Galasso's Seamos libres y lo demás no importa nada. No other books could be found do add further proof or give a different perspective?
- Legacy: a man like San Martín can have at most two short paragraphs about him in the Legacy section? The entire section is written from the point of view of one author only: Galasso. There are no other historians? No one else? No one at all?
- Legacy: "With Mitre's book, San Martín was universally acclaimed as the Liberator of Argentina..." Acclaimed by whom? 10 out of 10 Argentines love this guy? Really? I could understand something like "San Martín is generally regarded..." but "universally"? All historians regard him like that, then? Again: only Galasso's opinion is given.
- References: Holy s&%#! The article has four books as references? Four?!!! Could we make an article about George Washington with just four books?
- References: There is no book in English. Why not? Historian John Lynch wrote San Martin: Argentine Soldier, American Hero. There are several other works in English about San Martín too.
- References: Look at the references: the entire article was written almost entirely using Galasso's Seamos libres y lo demás no importa nada (see for yourself). That's all?
Well, the article should be at most B, certainly not a GA, unless the standards are very low nowadays. You shouldn't pass the article, it has to be improved a lot until it is worth the GA label. Regards, --Lecen (talk) 10:39, 12 December 2012 (UTC)