Talk:Nintendo 3DS

the generation numbers on the nintendo handheld consoles is wrong

they are listed as a generation ahead of what they actually are. game and watch is listed as the second generatior and counting from there to 3ds i come to 7, not 8. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 (talk) 15:11, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

Confusingly, that's not how we measure generations for handhelds - they are measured with relation to the main home console generations. This is something that is frequently discussed but as yet no consensus has been found for an alternative solution. Alphathon /'æɫ.fə.θɒn/ ^(talk) 16:10, 27 February 2013 (UTC)

3D Gaming is 8th generation gaming because first you should know that the Nintendo 3DS was announced in 2010 and unveiled in 2010, doesn't mean it's a 7th generation gaming system. 8th generation started in 2011, that's the year of the OFFICIAL release of the Nintendo 3DS. 𝕁𝕠𝕣𝕕𝕒𝕟 𝕁𝕒𝕞𝕚𝕖𝕤𝕠𝕟 𝕂𝕪𝕤𝕖𝕣 21:47, 27 February 2013 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by JordanKyser22 (talk • contribs)

filming only seems to be possible on the xl version

i tested it myself to be certain. i updated my small 3ds but it still cant film. it works on my 3ds xl though. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 84.208.59.120 (talk) 10:07, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Better find a source to confirm this before putting it in the article. I didn't believe there was really any difference between the 2 besides size-related things. (bigger screen, SD card, etc) Sergecross73 msg me 14:52, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Completely untrue. I can shoot video with both my Nintendo 3DS and 3DS XL. System software is exactly the same for both systems.--Arkhandar (talk) 16:56, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

Yeah it's untrue, unless you mean something else... ~ Pokebub22 (talk) 21:52, 18 May 2013 (UTC)

request protection

i request protection on this article after a major cleanup — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.56.155.151 (talk) 18:50, 14 August 2013 (UTC)

Why? The page hasn't especially experienced much vandalism lately. Sergecross73 msg me 00:30, 15 August 2013 (UTC)

Proposed merge with Nintendo 2DS

I see there is some discussion on this already, so I'm opening a merge proposal so we can get clear consensus on whether this is notable enough for a standalone topic. Taylor Trescott - ^{my talk} + _{my edits} 19:17, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Speedy merge The same incident happened when the Nintendo 3DS XL was announced. It's just a remodeled version. [Soffredo] 19:20, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

Keep separate articles. Whereas the XL was simply a larger version of the same console, this is a separate console with a different feature set. The lack of 3D, the new slate form factor, the rationale behind appealing to a lower-budget crowd without lowering the price of the main 3DS, and the removal or movement of several buttons, are major points of distinction. This topic appears to fulfill the different aspects of the general notability guideline at WP:GNG (thanks Sergecross73 for the heads-up):

• Significant coverage - this has already been covered by a large number of sources directly in detail. Lengthy articles about this console exclusively in a number of publications. The articles are not simple announcements as you often see on gaming blogs, but rather in-depth explanations, often with editorial commentary.
• Reliable - Washington Post, NBC News, CNET, CNN Money, USA Today, Kotaku, and IGN are just a few of the sources that have covered this in articles that are about the 3DS exclusively
• Sources - they are secondary sources, not Nintendo itself.
• Independent of the subject - these are independent journalistic enterprises that, while given the exclusive chance to test the 2DS, are not forced to write favorable reviews and in fact write some negatives in their previews
• Presumed - that's what we're discussing here.

Given fulfillment of the general notability guideline, I believe this console clearly deserves its own article. CaseyPenk (talk) 20:10, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

• Keep Separate Articles - per CaseyPenk, which partially mirrors my arguments back at the 2DS talk page. They are significantly different products, and are getting separate coverage. The reason that the 3DS XL article was merged before was because it was exactly the same as the original 3DS except a little bigger. There was nothing to say. All it had was a paragraph compare/contrasting its dimensions. This has different functionality, shape, is based off of going after a different demographic, etc. Sergecross73 msg me 20:23, 28 August 2013 (UTC)
• Merge - as per Soffredo, it's a new model, the only thing different is no 3D and no closing. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Pokebub22 (talk •contribs) 21:35, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

• Thats like saying we should merge the iPhone with the iPad because they're the same thing except size and 4G. It's called the 3DS - it's whole point was to be 3D. It's a fundamental change. Sergecross73 msg me 00:19, 29 August 2013 (UTC)

• Keep separate articles - This model is significantly different from other 3DS models. It lacks the 2D function, has no clamshell and only has mono speakers. Also, since the system has a much different name, it may cause confusion (people may try to find info on the Nintendo DS article instead of the 3DS article, making it more difficult to find info.) RyDawg96 (talk) 21:42, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

For reference, this edit is the only one performed by this user. CaseyPenk (talk) 22:33, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

• Keep - We had other console that wasn't merged like such as Game Boy Micro, Visteon Dockable Entertainment, Nintendo Mini Classics, Game Boy Advance SP, and Nintendo DSi. DigiPen92 (talk) 22:18, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

I'd add to that the Nintendo DS Lite. CaseyPenk (talk) 22:31, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

• Merge - I can see how this may be able to have its own article in the future, depending how its notability and difference from the 3DS changes, but at the moment, as a 3DS model, I think it should be listed as part of the 3DS article. (I know OTHERSTUFF and such, but Wii Mini originally had its own article and was merged with Wii on similar grounds.) DarkToonLink^Heyaah! 23:07, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

• Keep - Among other reasons listed above by fellow editors, just like the Nintendo DSi was part of the Nintendo DS family, the Nintendo 2DS, although still part of the Nintendo 3DS family, is considered a substantial different model on its own. We also see this trend in other articles such as the iPad 2 and iPad mini. Same internal hardware and compatible applications but different size, form factor, price pint and targeted demographics. Merging them in the same article would create more confusion and would overhaul be counter productive.--Arkhandar (Talk • Contribs) 23:36, 28 August 2013 (UTC)

• Keep - Yes, this is really a new gaming system that I just recently heard, but this is really part of the 3DS family. Just like the DSi which it was part of the DS family, this is more of a different model with some different features. The 2DS is the same is the 3DS but as there is different counterparts with it's the gaming system, yes, we don't want to confuse readers about the 3DS having a 2DS article/section as they have different components and other things with the 3DS. 20chances (talk) 12:36 AM, August 29, 2013 (UTC)
• Keep We shouldn't be discussing over whether the features of the 2DS (not many, but that's against the point) but the media coverage and sources for the article. There's plenty of reliable sources for this article to keep it separate and the mass media in general think of the 2DS as an entire new console instead of simply a model of the 3DS. Wikipedia isn't for opinions, it's for real information. Comparing the features between the 2DS and the 3DS is just a plain waste of time because whatever you say on this talk page isn't going to change the fact the 2DS is widely regarded as a new console itself. Naire Wagnero (talk) 03:13, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
• Keep While it could be considered as part of the 3DS family, it is definitely its own console. If it looked closer to a 3DS, then a merge would be more reasonable. GSK ● ✉ ✓ 04:42, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
• Oppose merge: There's enough content/distinct differences between them to justify a separate article. It's a notable hardware variation. ViperSnake151  Talk  06:18, 29 August 2013 (UTC)
• Strong Merge - It's not a completely new model, it's just a new variation of the 3DS, so it belongs to the 3DS family just as 3DS XL. This mirrors DS lite and DSi, which are part of the Nintendo DS family. --Gaming&Computing (talk) 14:19, 29 August 2013 (UTC)