Talk:Forbidden Archeology

The history of this page

Though this article is new, it has a history. It was created, I believe, on 12 October 2013, largely with content transferred here from two other articles: Michael Cremo and especially Richard L. Thompson. Editors both junior and senior, and with differing points of view, invested a fair amount of thought, effort, and discussion into the Forbidden Archeology section of those articles. So editors new to this page may wish to look through the Talk and History pages of Michael Cremo and Richard L. Thompson, especially for times prior to 12 October 2013.

Cordially, O Govinda (talk) 16:57, 15 October 2013 (UTC)

Hundreds of millions

Billions is suggested in fact, although only once.[1]. And you can't dismiss what Cremo says about a book he co-authored, eg "presence going That far back in time. In our book 'Forbidden Archeology,' my coauthor Rchard L Thompson (Sadaputa Dasa) and I documented extensive evidence. In the form of human skeletons, human footprints and human artifacts, showng that humans Hke ourselves have inhabited the earth for hundreds of mllions of years, just as the Puranas tell us. This evidence is not very well known because of a process of knowledge filtration that operates in the scientific world. Evidence that contradicts the Darwinian theory of human evolution is set aside, ignored, and eventually forgotten."[2]. Dougweller (talk) 13:13, 17 October 2013 (UTC)

You are correct - the sphere in question is attributed to a geographic layer that is in the billions. But as you said, the term "billion" is considered in light of this one artifact. It would appear unbalanced to argue that only one artifact, out of hundreds otherwise discussed, encapsulate's the main argument of a 750 page book. For sure, Cremo has mentioned many things while marketing the work. Thompson was only directly involved with co-authoring the first edition. I would suggest that also needs to be considered - what is published in the the actual book, at least when considering Thompson as co-author. Otherwise, quotations perhaps best be attributed to the person who actually spoke them. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sdmuni108 (talk • contribs) 13:39, 17 October 2013

A marketing website?

That description is deceptive - it's a website run by one of the authors, Michael Cremo, and should be clearly attributed to him. It does not matter what type of site it is as it is Cremo's website, and describing it as a marketing website is clearly denigrating it as a source. And the way it is now it makes Wade look like a source for saying it is a marketing website. Dougweller (talk) 07:51, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

And just to make it clear, Sdmuni108 (talk · contribs) has been obviously editing logged out. Probably accidental but it's important to know. Dougweller (talk) 08:01, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

I believe I'm logged in now. For better or worse, Wiki editing is not a primary activity of mine. The site in question appears to be a marketing effort for selling the book, as per the links on the page. As you mention, it is part of a promotional website. Why would someone consider it denigrating to market a book? In any event, that is the source of the quotation. Sdmuni108 (talk) 08:18, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

• The secondary sources say millions, Cremo says millions, ergo we should say millions, (WP:NOR) IRWolfie- (talk) 12:15, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Noting the source of the quotation is the question under discussion. Sdmuni108 (talk) 12:26, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

We are using one of the authors own works to describes it. There is no issue with the text. IRWolfie- (talk) 12:31, 18 October 2013 (UTC)

Directly citing a source for a quoted text is desirable. Apparently, it is from a cite affiliated with one of the co-authors, and not directly from the book. Sdmuni108 (talk) 15:30, 18 October 2013 (UTC)