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1 revert rule on the template infobox

You reverted Hpunxkd at 11:22 and you reverted me just now at 20:06. Please self-revert. Sopher99 (talk) 20:10, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

In defense of accuracy

Syrian Resistance had been added to the sub-group section of the article, as a sub-group of Shabiha. When I created this page I designed it with the intention that the Main Conflict section would not include sub-groups. There simply isn't room. Please remove Syrian Resistance or make an argument on the talk page that either all 150 sub-groups should be included in the Main Conflict section, or that Syrian Resistance is not a sub-group of Shabiha (I did not make the edit that added Syrian Resistance to Shabiha), but I am trying to make the article accurate and consistent and it was necessary for that reason to remove Syrian Resistance from the main section. DylanLacey (talk) 02:22, 17 November 2013 (UTC)

Speedy deletion nomination of Hamza Tzortzis

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Category:FGM victims

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Defense of legitimate editors

I see you have a barnstar on this subject. I am just getting started on it, would appreciate your opinion/comment/advice. Details in my user page. Thanks YamaPlos talk 04:28, 25 November 2013 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Yes to human cloning

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Speedy deletion nomination of Mohamud Mumin

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Contest

Should i contest this? Pass a Method talk 14:48, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Why are you asking me this? Middayexpress (talk) 14:52, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I figured you might have good experience on this and i was looking for a second opinion. Pass a Method talk 14:56, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

I see. What do your instincts tell you? Middayexpress (talk) 15:01, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

He has 14,000 hits on google so it seems okayish, so roughly 70% of my instinct says keep/contest. But since i'm not that good with biographies and you appear more experienced on that i figured I'd ask your opinion. Pass a Method talk 15:19, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

There actually appears to be only 4,970 hits on him; most either allude to one exhibition in 2012 or are mirrors or blogs/tumblrs. He's self-taught and that exhibition was also his first, so he's been at it professionally for a few months. Not sure whether that passes the WP:ONEEVENT notability threshold. Middayexpress (talk) 15:50, 30 November 2013 (UTC)

Thanks Pass a Method talk 17:34, 1 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedian in community notice

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Speedy deletion nomination of Amaal Nuux

Hello Pass a Method,

I wanted to let you know that I just tagged Amaal Nuux for deletion, because the article doesn't clearly say why the subject is important enough to be included in an encyclopedia.

If you feel that the article shouldn't be deleted and want more time to work on it, you can contest this deletion, but please don't remove the speedy deletion tag from the top.

You can leave a note on my talk page if you have questions. Tco03displays (talk) 05:00, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Wikipedia guidelines

This is the second time i've seen you moving a page by copy-pasting its content. The WP:MOVE page states in bold letters; Do not move or rename a page by copying/pasting its content. Don't do it again please. Consider this a warning. Pass a Method talk 19:25, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi Pass a Method. Actually, the real issue is your continuous naming of pages away from their WP:COMMONNAME. Prior examples including at Ahmed Mohamed Mohamoud and Mohamed Abdullahi Mohamed. The A'maal Nuux page is only the latest example since "A'maal Nuux" is at least twice as common a name for her as "Amaal Nuux". This was explained in detail here as well. Per the commonname policy, that's therefore where the page should have been to begin with. In future, please try and adhere to website policy. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 19:39, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I actually agree with the page move. I merely disagree with the method you chose to move the page. When something is bolded out on a guidelines, it is usually to add emphasis because of its importance. Pass a Method talk 19:48, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Hi

Hi, I must disagree with you about some page moves ([1]), "createdness of the Quran" and "Quranic createdness" are two entirely different concepts. Does "accuracy of mathematics" and "mathematical accuracy" have similar meanings?Kiatdd (talk) 19:49, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

They are probably interchangeable, but the first title had a misspelling with a missplaced comma. Pass a Method talk 19:56, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

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Carlton alumni

Thanks. But there's nothing on Sulekha Ali's wiki article to indicate she attended Carlton. Richard Apple (talk) 21:18, 5 December 2013 (UTC)

Format

5000 m on Mo's personal best table is badly formatted. Maybe you can fix it please? Thanks Pass a Method talk 13:42, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

I'll see what I can do. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 13:46, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Parameter

Hi Pass a Method. Please note that per Template:Infobox ethnic group, the related parameter is reserved for a "list of other ethnic groups related to the group", not for the same ethnic group geographically distributed elsewhere. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Zeila & Lughaya State

Hi Pass a Method. May I ask why you reverted here? You do realize that the only proof of the existence of such an entity is a dead website [2], right? Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:21, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Oh, you did not mention that in the edit summary Pass a Method talk 17:40, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Actually, I wrote "re-direct project to main". If you didn't understand what that meant, all you had to do was ask. Your rationale that "they are not the same thing" is also inaccurate, btw. Regards, Middayexpress (talk) 17:53, 6 December 2013 (UTC)

Why move Nuclear program of Iran to Nuclear power in Iran

You recently changed the name of this article in a way that I think is misleading. Iran's nuclear program is much broader than nuclear power, and one of the still unanswered questions is whether it is genuinely intended for peaceful nuclear power purposes. This name change was discussed months ago and the consensus was against. I'm not aware that there was a recent discussion. Please explain. NPguy (talk) 16:20, 8 December 2013 (UTC)

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WP:SYNTHESIS

But I wasn't combining multiple sources. I was citing just one source. EkoGraf (talk) 16:46, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, then it would count as WP:ORPass a Method talk 16:50, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

o.O? How is it OR if the guy cited in the source says 12-20 fighters (which is very specific) die each month since he was there which is April. EkoGraf (talk) 16:54, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, but thats not what you added to the article. You added a total number. You decided for yourself that we should count from April onwards. Thats clear original research. Pass a Method talk 17:00, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

I'm not seeing it that way. I wrote in my own words (which Wikipedia requests from us) what in essence that guy said. He said 12-20 of their fighters die each month and that they have been involved since at least April. His sentence by all intents and purposes equals (12-20 times 8 months which is 96-160). You got editors writing in these many different war articles on different incidents. And when they write about a day in a conflict where the one source says, for example, 7 soldiers died in one incident and another 3 died in another incident during the same day, editors sum it up and say 10 died during the day. Its simple logic. Yes, it would be OR if we combined multiple different sources or statements from different individuals for one conclusion and that's something I too don't approve of. But, we are using here one statement, from one individual, from one news source. No multiple statements, no multiple individuals, no multiple news sources. EkoGraf (talk) 19:01, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Tell me this, if you were writing an article about a two-day battle, and you got a source, a same source, that says that during the battle 40 people died the first day and 50 died during the second day, wouldn't you put in the battle's infobox that 90 died during the battle? EkoGraf (talk) 19:04, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

First, the article does not state all were Iraqi. Second, the source does not make any calculations. No body counts. No hospital records. Its a figure that he came up with in the middle of a conversation. If thats not bad enough, you use that figure, and make add up how many months he was there and get a total? Give me a fucking break. Pass a Method talk 19:09, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

First, reply to your number 1 assertion. You are incorrect. The guy clearly states they were all Iraqi. Quoting the source for you. He reckons between 12 and 20 Iraqi volunteers are being killed in Syria every month. So, you must have missed that part. Second, an estimate of 12-20 dead per month is a body count in itself. Third, why would we need hospital records? Do we request hospital records for victims of an earthquake, or do we simply cite the figure that is given in a source? Fourth, since you cited Wikipedia:No original research for me, I will cite something else for you. Wikipedia:No original research#Routine calculations. Quoting: Routine calculations do not count as original research, provided there is consensus among editors that the result of the calculation is obvious, correct, and a meaningful reflection of the sources. Fifth, please refrain from harsh language per Wikipedia:Civility. EkoGraf (talk) 19:16, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

So, I have just one question now for you...Is 96-160 an obvious, correct and meaningful reflection of 12-20 dead per month for eight months? EkoGraf (talk) 19:25, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

You are forming a conclusion out of minimum words. Its possible that In May most volunteers were non-Iraqi. Its also possible that more people were dieing from June onwards compared to the previous months. Its also possible that he's giving the highest estimates from during the fiercest fighting and ignoring death toll figures from during the stalemate. its very vague language. Such arbitraqry numbers of "per month" are obviously contrary from facts on the ground which show a huge variation in fighting each month. Pass a Method talk 19:43, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Also the amount of fighting has ranged from heavy to zero at Zaynab sayyida, so a month by month calculus makes no sense in the first place Pass a Method talk 19:53, 10 December 2013 (UTC)

Old age request

I am writing you because you made recent edits to Old age. Please be so kind as to review my draft of extensive editing at User:Vejlefjord/Old age - draft and my explanation on its Talk Page. What do you think about its possible use? I am a novice in Wikipedia procedures. Thanks. Vejlefjord (talk) 00:49, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Yes, it seems fine. Although i've only edited that page a couple of times. Pass a Method talk 00:54, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for your reply and encouragement. What should I now do? Replace the present Old age article with the User:Vejlefjord/Old age - draft revision? Please advise. Vejlefjord (talk) 17:33, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

No. Its better to manually make the changes without all-out replacement. You can do it one by one if you feel thats best. Pass a Method talk 17:41, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

A page you started (Quranic timeline) has been reviewed!

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Euthanasia, Foreign policy, Froome

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Guitar

Do not, do not identify PEOPLE by gender unless you are writing an article in which gender is a significant issue.

• Human biology
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In these instances, you may need to draw distinction between male and female.

But do not label a picture FEMALE guitarist in an article about Guitars.

I do not know who you are or where you come from, but I do know that your sexist attitudes are forty years behind the times.

I do not believe that if it had been Eric Clapton playing that guitar, you would have captioned it MALE guitarist.

The female has a name. Her name is on the file. It is Sinéad O’Connor.

This type of sexist labelling, as if a female needs to be identified as such, should be a thing of the past. Would you write "Black man playing a guitar"? "Homosexual playing a guitar"? "Amputee playing a guitar"? "Geriatric playing a guitar"? "Motor mechanic playing a guitar"? Tax agent playing a guitar"? "Female" is just as irrelevant! A guitarist is a guitarist.

Amandajm (talk) 12:58, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Amanda, I'm not sure it is really meant that way or even intended to be even slightly offensive. On youtube for instance it's common to see "female guitarist", as it's typically a male-dominated instrument. A lot of girls/women even upload videos of themselves and label it "female guitarist". Even Guthrie Govan has said "let's face it, we tend to be men don't we" when asked who attends his clinics. It is quite rare to see a professional female guitarist in comparison to something like a pianist or violinist and I don't mean just a girl who sings and happens to strum a guitar in a band. You wouldn't get "female pianist" on the otherhand. So I can at least understand the thinking behind labeling it as such. For somebody as famous as Sinead though it does seem a strange choice to label her a "female guitarist" as if she's some unknown amateur musician. Personally I'd rather add a photo of a famous accomplished female professional guitarist like Ana Vidovic who is utterly beautiful in looks and playing and label it "Ana Vidovic" rather than Sinead who is more a singer accompanying her singing with some chords on a guitar or some amateur female player.. ♦ Dr. Blofeld 21:24, 17 December 2013 (UTC)

Dec. 13

Please stop adding unsourced content. This contravenes Wikipedia's policy on verifiability. If you continue to do so, you may be blocked from editing Wikipedia. EzPz (talk) 00:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)

Pass a method, you regularly add content to pages from fringe sources or no sources. Please seriously consider taking a second look at your edits prior to making them, thank you. EzPz (talk) 00:38, 18 December 2013 (UTC)