Talk:Belarusian Americans

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Belarusian American qualifications

To be a Belarusian American or any fooian American, one must be an American citizen. This is what it means to be an 'American'. Everyone else in the US are visitors, green-card holders, expatriates, etc.--all of which is fine, but they are not 'Americans'. There is nothing to discuss here other than one editor who does not accept this basic fact and keeps adding non-Americans to this article. Hmains (talk) 22:36, 13 December 2013 (UTC)

First of all, where does it say that citizenship is a must for the collage? From the context of the article it seems it's about Belarusians in the US, not always citizens.

Second, Olga Korbut is naturalized, and is notable in her training American gymnasts.

Third, who said Johansson even sees herself as a Belarusian American? She has Jewish ancestors coming from the area which is today Belarus, but at the time those areas were not Belarus but Russia, and she never spoke about any connection she had to Belarus. In fact, she always said her ancestors came from Russia in interviews, which shows she doesn't even use the term Belarus because she doesn't think of her ancestors as coming from Belarus. She doesn't see herself as Belarusian, so it's really silly to try and "push" her into the collage. 94.13.108.100 (talk) 10:07, 14 December 2013 (UTC)

• I am still waiting to see references from WP-acceptable reliable sources saying that Americans include non-citizens of the United States who are allowed to live, in the US. The WP bio article on Olga Korbut, the person in question, does not indicate she is an American and so she is not. Americans don't have to be allowed to live in the US; as citizens, they have the right to live there. And this is true of any country; the US is not special here. Hmains (talk) 03:21, 20 December 2013 (UTC)
  • Further a Olga Korbut image was first added to this article by User:Danton's Jacobin, a blocked user. Contributions from blocked users can be deleted at any time and often are. Hmains (talk) 03:42, 20 December 2013 (UTC)

Deleted, not replaced by a random character like Scarlett Johansson. Olga Korbut is an American citizen, so she is actually more qualified then Scarlett Johansson, who is not even Belarusian. She never defined herself as one, she has very little roots there and even the one she had probably considered themselves Polish Jews or Russian Jews because Jews in the area never identified as Ruthenian/Belarusian Jews until the Belarusian SSR was formed. 94.7.210.153 (talk) 09:16, 27 December 2013 (UTC)

The article was briefly protected. Don't restore Scarlett Johansson or Olga Korbut to the article without considering what was said here, and providing the RS I noted is needed.--Elvey (talk) 08:43, 28 December 2013 (UTC)

Scarlett Johansson can't be in the collage because she never called herself Belarusian, and she probably doesn't see her as such, because her ancestorss who came from that region came when there was no Belarus yet and they probably never heard of the name Belarus. Also, they weren't of Belarusian ethnicity, so any connection to the modern definition of Belarus or Belarusian falls out.

Olga Korbut in my opinion should be in the collage, but as suggested I don't put her in in order to wait for a discussion.

Let's suggest who is good enough to fill this spot! Barys Kit would be the obvious pick, but we don't have a picture of him on the English Wikipdia. It has to be someone either of Belarusian ethnicity, or someone who isn't necessarily of Belarusian ethnicity but came from Belarus proper (Belarusian SSR, modern Belarus). 90.214.121.50 (talk) 20:24, 30 December 2013 (UTC)