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Human trafficking

Maintenance note[edit]

I maintain this page by deleting items after a week or two. Hmains (talk) 16:09, 15 October 2010 (UTC)


You may wish to make use of a 'Dates' tab in edit mode that will help with unlinking unnecessary date links. Simply copy the entire contents of User:Bobblewik/monobook.js to your own monobook. Then follow the instructions in your monobook to clear the cache (i.e. press Ctrl-Shift-R in Firefox, or Ctrl-F5 in IE) before it will work. It also provides a 'Units' tab. If you know what you are doing, you can copy and modify the subfiles as you wish. I just thought you might be interested. Regards. bobblewik 20:03, 9 June 2006 (UTC)

The reason it fails is because you refer to User:Hmains/monobook.js/dates.js and User:Hmains/monobook.js/unitformatter.js and these articles do not exist. You have two options:
Try again. I am happy to walk you through the process. So feel free to ask me again. bobblewik 12:03, 10 June 2006 (UTC)

hold for cat discussion until find example[edit]

There are some categories that are used only for categories, and never for articles. Some of these categories have been made into 'hidden' categories, and yet they are never in fact 'hidden' since the hidden feature only applies to articles and not categories. So the hidden category always displays on the category screen as 'hidden'--which is obviously a contradiction. I suggest, that category categories not be classified as hidden. When I have tried to remove the hidden classification in such cases, someone always just adds it back in. Without something said in this categorization guideline I have nothing much justify my removal.


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Wikipedia:Categorization Wikipedia:Categories, lists, and series boxes Template:Americans WP:BLPCAT WP:LISTPEOPLE

  • 12 to 12 handled by find/replace table; not by module

public public

to fix

to avoid disambiguation pages use: |{{.*dis}}




  • to auto fill edit summary: "I haven't found a way to get autocomplete in IE at https with the current setup on Wikipedia's side. If http is acceptable to you then you can disable "Always use a secure connection when logged in" at Special:Preferences, log out, close IE, start IE again and log in at PrimeHunter (talk) 16:50, 31 August 2013 (UTC)"

it may also be necessary to force the WP address to be http: instead of https:


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Hi Hmains, just wanted to let you know that I have added the autopatrolled right to your account, as you have created numerous, valid articles. This feature should have little to no effect on your editing, and is simply intended to reduce the workload on new page patrollers. For more information on the patroller right, see Wikipedia:Autopatrolled. Feel free to leave me a message if you have any questions. Happy editing! — ξxplicit 21:36, 3 July 2010 (UTC)


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Linking Dates (centuries, decades, years, months, days, etc)[edit]


As always, the content of the linked-to article must provide substantive content to the linked-from article. The MOS decided most dates do not do this. Hmains (talk) 03:36, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

what links here

filter by name:

  • calendar|day|week|month|year|decade|century|millennium|Showa|Shōwa|Meiji|Taisho|Taishō| in |Other events|(number)|(disambiguation)|Aught-|SO 8601|Timeline|acronyms|initialisms


  • {{Decadebox|{{Year dab|{{Year nav|{{Month header}}|{{Day}}|Category:Days of the year|{{Portal:Current events/Events by month}}|{{Months in the|Eastern Orthodox liturgical days|#REDIRECT|disambig|{{events by month links}}|month category|Months of the|The following events occurred in

Web page has expired[edit]

I follow the directions in the message shown on the screen.

"Click on the Refresh button on the toolbar to reload the page. After refreshing, you might need to navigate to the specific webpage again, or re-enter information."

On my computer I have to remember that "refresh" looks like a circle with an arrow at the top, and it's the fourth of five icons to the right of the URL. I don't even know what the others are. Then a box pops up and I have to click on "retry".— Vchimpanzee · talk · contributions · 21:04, 1 July 2012 (UTC)


Since you are very active in the project, would you like to be an administrator? Do you need tools to move/delete pages for example? Are you active in WP space, involved in xFDs or something similar? -- Magioladitis (talk) 07:03, 23 August 2012 (UTC)

I'll second Magioladitis here. I think you'd do fantastic as an administrator. The choice is entirely yours, but just know that should you ever submit an RfA, you'll have my support. Kurtis (talk) 03:53, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
  • Thanks to you both, but I think I would lose interest in WP doing admin things. Hmains (talk) 03:56, 2 September 2012 (UTC)
Understandable. Do whatever you feel comfortable doing, it's not my place to pressure you.
But in the off chance that you ever change your mind, know that I would feel confident in entrusting you with the tools. =) Kurtis (talk) 04:05, 2 September 2012 (UTC)


  • The delinking of dates was exhaustively discussed by WP prior to the current wording of WP:DATELINK and WP:YEARLINK and MOS:UNLINKDATES being agreed upon. Days, months, years, decades, centuries, etc were all included in the long discussion.

WikiProject Cleanup[edit]

Hello, Hmains.

You are invited to join WikiProject Cleanup, a WikiProject and resource for Wikipedia cleanup listings, information and discussion.
To join the project, just add your name to the member list. Northamerica1000(talk) 14:11, 24 February 2013 (UTC)


Whatever it is, this problem has not been fixed and there seems to be no activity by the people responsible for this mess to fix it. Hmains (talk) 02:13, 19 September 2013 (UTC) Hmains

I'm sorry that you're still having this frustrating problem. BJorsch named above the three different places where this problem may be caused: 1.your own computer, 2.the WMF's servers, or 3.a server in between you and the WMF's servers.

Each user is necessarily responsible for cacheing problems that appear in his own browser. Please follow all the steps at WP:BYPASS and let us know if that (hopefully!) solves the problem for you. If the problem is the WMF's caches, then it will likely be fixed relatively soon. If the problem is at a third-party server in between you and the WMF (e.g., on your corporate or university network or your local ISP), then I'm afraid that there is often nothing that either you or we are able to do about it except wait for the third-party server to update its cache. Whatamidoing (WMF) (talk) 18:53

AWB: mass category creation[edit]

Can AWB create mass categories? E.g. i need to create categories from ”Football clubs established in 1900” to ”Football clubs established in 2020”. Each category must have 2 categories- parents, one stable ”Football clubs establishements by year” and second incrementable ”Establishements in {{year}}", where {{year}} has value from 1900 to 2020, for each new category incrementation +1. Its possible to do that with AWB? XXN (talk) 19:50, 24 October 2013 (UTC)

@XXN:, yes, check out CSV Loader. You will need to file a BRFA and get approval before you start creating the categories. Ganeshk (talk) 22:42, 24 October 2013 (UTC)
Thanks, but i dont understand how to use your plugin)) I know about bot policy, i will work on, i have already submitted an request for approval. XXN (talk) 23:35, 25 October 2013 (UTC)
Please follow the steps in this walk through. Please leave a message on my talk page if you have any questions or run into any issues. Ganeshk (talk) 14:17, 27 October 2013 (UTC)


Hi there. Would you have a moment to look at the discussion on User talk:Thewildone85s talk page? I have no beef with this editor's addition of Category:Unincorporated communities in New Jersey. In fact, when you are searching for a place within a state, and you don't know the county, this is the easiest way to find it. It's the "master list". I support this editor's addition, but I know you are more familiar with the use of this category. Thanks. Magnolia677 (talk) 03:30, 22 January 2015 (UTC)

  • I am not sure what is question. Is something being disputed here? Hmains (talk) 03:39, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Yes. Thewildone85 has added the parent category "Unincorporated communities in New Jersey" to many New Jersey articles; another editor claims they are "unneeded and inappropriate" and plans to delete them. I think adding both the parent and child is a good edit. The parent serves as a "master list". Magnolia677 (talk) 03:55, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
    • This is the same thing I tried to do but the other editor is the self-created 'owner' of New Jersey articles and categories and will not allow anything to happen to them that he disagrees with. He will fight any and all other editors with all the power that he has and do it continually with threats and ill will until he gets his way. Hmains (talk) 04:01, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
That's one of the reasons I asked you to comment. I'm up to my ears here with this editor, so don't want to get in deeper. I actually support the addition of this category though. When I made hundreds of edits to Mississippi articles last year, it was a huge help having each town listed in the parent category. It really is the only way to have a complete list. Otherwise, you need to search through each county. I know this is your area of expertise, so any help would be appreciated. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:20, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
I think the only way to get change is to get admins involved but from what I see they don't want to be involved either as dealing with this editor would take all their time. Hmains (talk) 04:32, 22 January 2015 (UTC)
Sadly, it looks that way. Anyway, nice chatting and thanks for your many great edits. Magnolia677 (talk) 04:45, 22 January 2015 (UTC)


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Indiana historic districts[edit]

Stop the category changing. You were already shown that this was not a good idea, but you've gone ahead and created a whole new system without consensus. You're also making obvious errors such as putting Central Court Historic District into a nonexistent category and forcing others to fix your mistake. An immediate block will be requested if you continue. Nyttend (talk) 04:36, 30 October 2015 (UTC)

  • I can and do fix any errors. The rest of your statement makes no sense. Hmains (talk) 04:41, 30 October 2015 (UTC)
  • Given your persistent use of AWB to make controversial changes, I have created a section at ANI, "Hmains and AWB", asking that your AWB access be removed immediately. Nyttend (talk) 02:10, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

5 Million: We celebrate your contribution[edit]

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We couldn't have done it without you
Well, maybe. Eventually. But the encyclopedia would not be as good.

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Bot or AWB help, please?[edit]


I've noticed how helpful your bot can be, and I saw that Hmainsbot1 (talk · contribs) is both a bot and fusion of AWB.

Any chance you could help me out with this:

Wikipedia:Bot_requests#Give_out_Deletion_to_Quality_Awards ?

Thank you for your time,

Cirt (talk) 06:41, 2 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Not much I can say. The logic is implemented through careful and tested entries in the AWB 'find and replace' table--the plan for which were approved by the bot admins. The bot is driven by bot language code to use the AWB; bot language is something I don't understand, so it was written mostly by others. What I do is to manually use AWB against a source to create a list of articles to work on; then I start the AWB as a bot, using my bot userid, and let it automatically process the articles in the list. Hmains (talk) 18:10, 8 November 2015 (UTC)


Hi Hmains, I have a question. I see you and many other bot users changing "ubl" to "unbulleted list". I am not really opposed to this, it just seems like wasted effort. Was there a decision on this somewhere? Thanks,  Mr.choppers | ✎  05:39, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Not something I am targeting, but AWB is doing this as part of its general fixes. AWB general fixes are based on the MOS, but to find where in the MOS one needs to contact the AWB administrator. Hmains (talk) 05:45, 15 November 2015 (UTC)


Why are you doing this and not using the {{circa}} template? --Redrose64 (talk) 23:57, 17 November 2015 (UTC)

  • The MOS gives editors a choice of using the template or c. WP:APPROXDATE. Since I have the choice, I choose to use c., which in my mind is simpler and I don't see the template providing any added value. Hmains (talk) 04:55, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
    It marks it up as an abbreviation - using the <abbr>...</abbr> HTML element via the {{abbr}} template - which is a benefit for accessibility. Notice the row of dots below the "c." in c. 1847; now hover your mouse over that. --Redrose64 (talk) 09:42, 18 November 2015 (UTC)
    Your statement about hovering contracts the text in accessibility that says do not use hovering. On a larger scale, I don't that MOS currently incorporates the tenants of accessibility and have not noticed any activity to do so. If this were done in the MOS, then a further step would be to create BOTS to make the massive changes what would be required to WP articles. Someone else's work, not mine. Hmains (talk) 18:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
    You mean the part where it says 'Do not use techniques that require interaction to provide information, such as tooltips or any other "hover" text.'? Please observe the very next phrase: 'Abbreviations are exempt from these requirements' - and since c. is an abbreviation, it is exempt. --Redrose64 (talk) 23:20, 20 November 2015 (UTC)
    Yes, thanks for the further detail. Hmains (talk) 01:17, 23 November 2015 (UTC)


I do not object to your efforts to recategorize NRHP historic districts. (I also don't endorse it, but leave that aside.) But, in future, before you add |nocat= to {{Infobox NRHP}} could you please do a check to make sure that the parameter isn't already present. I've had to clean up multiple redundant instances of the parameter. Thanks. — Ipoellet (talk) 01:44, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Thanks for the notice. I will recheck work I have done. Hmains (talk) 01:55, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

More nocat[edit]

This edit has changed a valid nrhp type into an invalid one, your script needs to accept nhldcp. I'll fix this one. Generic1139 (talk) 21:57, 22 November 2015 (UTC)

  • Not exactly a script but my responsibility regardless. Thanks. I further repaired the category since itself is not an historic district, but just part of one. Hmains (talk) 01:14, 23 November 2015 (UTC)

Reference errors on 23 November[edit]

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Using rollback on your edits[edit]

Sorry for using rollback on your edits a few times lately; in case you didn't already notice, these were misclicks, and I've reverted myself immediately upon making them. Nyttend (talk) 14:20, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

  • All is ok; thanks Hmains (talk) 02:45, 25 November 2015 (UTC)