User talk:Lvivske

Donetsk republic staff

Please vote to Delete this Article in table below discussion in Voting Area Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Donetsk_People's_Republic --Ipadm (talk) 15:28, 7 April 2014 (UTC)

Donetsk Republic (organization)

Dont be redundant please. If you mention that the organization was banned in 2007, do it on the first paragraph of the article or in the last one, but not in both, as that simply redundant.--HCPUNXKID 22:08, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

it's not redundant to have a mention in the lede and then have expanded info in the history section. --Львівське (говорити) 22:10, 8 April 2014 (UTC)

Draft:2014 Ukrainian crisis

As I mentioned at Talk:2014 pro-Russian protests in Ukraine, I'd like to start a new summary article to deal with the vast scope of the Ukrainian crisis, and direct people to the appropriate places. I've started such a draft at Draft:2014 Ukrainian crisis, and could use your valuable help in getting it up to snuff. Please do assist in that regard. I've given my proposal more detail at the pro-Russian protests article talk page. RGloucester — ☎ 20:12, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

awesome, ill try to take a look in a bit --Львівське (говорити) 20:16, 9 April 2014 (UTC)

• My apologies for the accidental reverts. Was having edit conflicts, because we were both editing at the same time. RGloucester — ☎ 01:02, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

no problem! --Львівське (говорити) 01:03, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Disruptive editing

Please stop your disruptive editing, personal attacks, and soapboxing. WP:DISRUPT Your comments are not helpful: "Which part was bombastic? Armed rebels have indeed taken the SBU building and are holding hostages and have planted explosives in the building. This is the Die Hard definition of terrorism, I don't think I exaggerated." You could perhaps refer to WP:TERRORIST.

Lurking in the Talk pages of articles that you don't like, and insulting everyone who don't think like you is not a good way to advance your ideas. Just my 2 cents.

Anyway, I apologize if I insulted you in any way. I will stop replying to your posts. Have a nice day.Cmoibenlepro (talk) 14:48, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

I fail to see how stating facts is either disruptive, or "lurking in talk pages of articles I don't like". I'm not insulted, I'm just confused how you arrived at these bizarre conclusions. Is this because I pointed you you appear to be an WP:SPA? Just calling a spade a spade.--Львівське (говорити) 14:49, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

Ok then forget it. I forgive you. Cmoibenlepro (talk) 14:54, 10 April 2014 (UTC)

File:RSA by pro-Russians.png

I'd like to update this map, but Inkscape isn't letting me select the various different oblasts, for whatever reason. Do you know what program was used to make it, so that I can update it? RGloucester — ☎ 14:52, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

I didnt make that one, looks like someone used a color fill tool but the tolerance was set too low so all those orange borders were left over. I'd suggest making a new one. —Львівське (говорити) 14:55, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

Got it. Which is the base map used by it? It is the same one as the 'Russian protests' one, but I can't find one without any colouring. RGloucester — ☎ 15:13, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

FYI

• FYI, just created - if you are interested. My very best wishes (talk) 18:36, 11 April 2014 (UTC)

URLs

Please cover URLs you are citing.[1] Covered URLs are more reader friendly, and they make it possible to update the URLs when the websites restructure.--Toddy1 (talk) 21:23, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

I do sometimes, but not always. Can always be cleaned up later.--Львівське (говорити) 21:24, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

Your nazi analogies

Please refrain from discussing the use of nazi analogies in the Talk:Donetsk People's Republic. I find this highly offensive. This is your last warning, or I will report you to WP:ANI. Thank you. You may be blocked from editing without further warning the next time you vandalize Wikipedia.

You're offended by me quoting your edit summaries? Now that's a new one. What do you intend to report me for?--Львівське (говорити) 23:27, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

There is currently a discussion at Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you.Cmoibenlepro (talk) 23:50, 12 April 2014 (UTC)

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You win

You must be proud. You win. I asked Wikipedia to officially close my account. Congratulations. Cmoibenlepro (talk) 21:19, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Cmoibenlepro has given you a Pork pie. Pork pies are full of meaty goodness, and are wonderfully delicious! On Wikipedia, they promote love and sincerity. Hopefully, this one has made your day happier.

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Ya'll come back --Львівське (говорити) 21:27, 13 April 2014 (UTC)

Just want to archive some of these gems:

I am asking for closing my account. Forever.

Reason: I am personally targeted by the nationalistic hatred of User:Lvivske, as everyday he would bully me, and comment everything I ever posted. I was harassed, threatened, and slandered as I was supposedly against his nationalistic Ukrainian POV. I do not understand why

I tried to ask for help in the page Wikipedia:Administrators' noticeboard/Incidents#Trolling editor Lvivske, but I was not helped. On the opposite, he continued to troll me on that page.

I want to end this.

I am crying now... I just said that he wanted to see a connection between this article and this incident, and he'd liked to put it. I never wanted to say anything more. Please stop talking to me and I will never again go to your User page or post anything on Wikipedia. PLEASE STOP HARASSING AND BULLYING ME, AS YOU ARE DOING RIGHT NOW Your current comments about me are driving me crazy.

Could you please stop talking to me? I am begging you! Please, I could not sleep because you are all against me, and I feel bullied, threatened and insulted. This is not funny at all. Please stop your personal attacks against me. This is only what I ask. I want to be in security when I post to wikipedia without being harassed. Please stop, I will never go to your talk page again, I promise.

Removal of Kosovo

I'm sorry, but it's neither WP:SYNTH nor OR, it's official point by Russian head of state, from his official site. Why do you remove it? Seryo93 (talk) 06:56, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

the section was on legal aspects of the situation itself, not historical analogies.--Львівське (говорити) 07:32, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

This is legal aspect (even if disputed by the West), because Court noted that "Intl' law contains no prohibiton of self-determination", therefore it's "not necessary to comply with national law" and Russia now uses this ruling as a legal (or politico-legal) argument against Ukrainian claims (see also Declaration of Independence of the Republic of Crimea, which explicitly referrend to this decision). This argument (or at least link to Kosovo precedent) must stay, in my opinion, because it plays too significant role in these events to be ignored. And for "not historical analogies": they sometimes become legal aspect too, see precedent article. Bests, Seryo93 (talk) 11:46, 14 April 2014 (UTC)

idiot

My God, if you really are an idiot if you think that your lies and propaganda can fool someone? 500-600 protesters, they are supported by 15% of the people, the junta's "government" ... A month ago you lay down to sleep in Ukraine and woke up without Crimea and good night because free people of Dombas (in all cities) cleaned the fascist scum from their cities!

Do you dare to bet that next week you will not edit protests against the junta in free Dombas? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.93.233 (talk) 03:01, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

The main protesters requirement is defense of democracy from the junta who has destroyed democracy and made ​​a coup. The second requirement is the defense of press freedom since the junta closed 40 TV and radio stations, the third requirement is a referendum on the federalization of the state, fourthrequest ban of fascist law of Russian language (which is the mother tongue of the majority of citizens of Ukraine) but idiots like you create lies and propaganda, have never read the requirements of demonstrators and because of these idiots Donbas 4.5 million people, 2.5 million people of Lugansk and 3.5 million citizens of the Kharkiv area wants a democratic referendum. Of course, do not count Crimea because Crimea is another continent in relation to the junta in Kiev (democratic referendum is a wonderful thing) and Odessa, Dnipropetrovsk and other south-east are 50:50 for federalization. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.93.233 (talk) 03:22, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Look who is talking! First of all my friend here doesn't even live in Ukraine, and two, he is definitely not an idiot. Just because he might be wrong somewhere doesn't mean you should call him names. By the way, read our policy regarding assuming good faith and personal attacks before ever calling anyone an idiot here.--Mishae (talk) 03:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

The IP user above has been inserting uncited rubbish and vandalizing articles (ie, changing figures and altering words from cited material) to push a pro-Russian POV that has no basis in reality. Just another day fighting the good fight, I guess. --Львівське (говорити) 04:07, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

So, some man from a New Zenlad, Canada, Australia or other places where poor people emigrate knows "truth" about democratic protests in southeastern Ukraine, called them separatists and junta (who destroyed democracy) called "government", never read their demands (probably in Canada and Australia are not able to do so) but that it does not bother him to write nonsense and insult democratic protests.

Video from Odessa where protesters (who defending democracy and freedom of the press and the fundamental right on mother language ) go to the harbor to protest against USA destroyer is not a good source for him in Canada and he knows the truth, an article from the southeast which says that 25 VDV Brigade crossed on the side of the people against the junta is not a good source for him in Australia and he knows that no one supports the protesters. Clips of tens of thousands of protesters in Donetsk and Kharkov for him are not source, clips of Berkut on the side of the people against the junta is not source, clips of police Colonel and all police officers in Slovanske who moved on people side against junta for him are not the source. Stupidity "few hundred protesters", "supporting 10% of the population", junta is "government" , insulting people who struggle against the junta on a democratic way and looking for a democratic referendum for federalization calling separatists is cheap propaganda of a man who is far away 25000km from free part of Ukraine and has no idea what's going on and turns wiki in cheap propaganda as Local TV station from Lviv. Yutube is an excellent source and if Radio Canada says several hundred protesters, perhaps the media in Donetsk Republic say 1 million Protestants but video can not lie. If a police colonel, all police officers, Berkut ... on video say that stood by the people against the junta then this is an excellent source and if Sydney radio or Kharkiv news may tell a different story the video does not lie.

Wicki is not owned by junta that one man chooses source that he likes, to insult democratic protesters and to spread propaganda and brutal lies.

When one man from Lviv thinks possess all and that can decide which is good source and who is not good, and to write propaganda and ban people who think differently, then this man first wake up without the Crimea and the next day without Donbas, Lugansk, Odesa, Kharkiv ... — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.93.233 (talk) 04:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

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You have to try harder to make money because you know the truth: "Separatists are mercenaries each received $ 500 to protests"

Correct, they get $500 and those who stand around and hold up signs get $42. It's a sad bunch. —Львівське (говорити) 04:44, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Do they get paid in Donetsk People's Dollars? RGloucester — ☎ 04:56, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Burger King coupons--Львівське (говорити) 04:58, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Smooth. RGloucester — ☎ 05:00, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Well, you could become a millionaire in demonstrations instead you emigrated .Now i see that RT is not a reliable source for you but do not have a problem with the voice of Ukraine! Voice of Ukraine is the property of the junta, funded by the junta and editorial policy make junta. Russia has no state capital in RT, state does not poses RT, Russia does not make the editorial policy of the RT.Russia does not participate directly in the conflict in southeastern Ukraine, but the junta is in conflict with the citizens of Ukraine You in the West should learn that fascism will not pass and if you have not learned as an immigrant you can go back to the free territory of southeast because fascism does not pass here! Sorry I have better things to do than to argue with emigrant who doing the dirty work in the west and produces dirty propaganda for the junta online! Free people of Dombas create Dombas Republic and it's a little significant job than your writing propaganda on wiki. In Kiev people called junta "Facebook government" , you're writing propaganda for junta, so called Prime Minister has imaginary world... Fascism of information age Greetings from the democratic parts of Ukraine who is independent from the junta. Folk wisdom says, "independent as Crime"  :) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.93.233 (talk) 05:07, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Eight! Eight juntas! ah ah ah ah --Львівське (говорити) 05:11, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

When the gang make a coup, destroying democracy, parliament beating opponents, crush 40 media, fire on their own people, introduce fascist laws on language, sends the fascists in schools to teach children to hate, expressed gold reserves abroad and imported foreign mercenaries (and director of the CIA command).... then the whole world calls this gang junta.

I personally enjoy watching online brave fascists who later whine and cry , " we have lost all the cities in Lugansk area and Dombas . Crimea is another continent, in Odessa 15000 demonstrate against the junta ... "," In Kharkov young fascists do not walk, but go on knees "...

There was once average state with average problems and then junta made coup and average state does not exist, but there are a few new ones.

People of southeast it will not destroy the junta because they will be second states but ordinary people from fascist western Ukraine will destroy JUNTA when understand what they had before the coup and now that Ukraine does not exist and that the junta has increased prices by 50% and salaries and pensions reduced. People in the Southeast wanted a federation of Ukraine, because love Ukraine more then fascists in the west of the country, but junta began to shoot on the people and at the end junta will dream of federalization because southeast will leave Ukraine only because today's behavior of junta. Think about this for half a year. This is a consequence of this behavior as you do "lie and write crap because you think that you can do that without consequences and when reality smacking your foreheadthen it is too late". Generally, ask yourself the question for six months "if federalization was a better solution, but this is what is happening now" Over and out — Preceding unsigned comment added by 188.2.93.233 (talk) 05:50, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

9 juntas and 6 fascists that time. Nice. --Львівське (говорити) 06:11, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Your IP editor is from Servia, not Ukraine. So he/she is outside Ukraine just like the people in Australia and New Zealand he/she complains about.--Toddy1 (talk) 07:06, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

First of all, Lvivske, you shouldn't provoke this discussion by laughing and counting the number of times he says junta and/or fascists it will just escalate a conflict between you two. Instead, try to explain him the rules and guidelines as I did.

Now, to the anonymous user: First, please understand that Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not news agency (although I heard otherwise, like it can even be a political force, but it was just rumours on the net). Second, please take a note that Wikipedia can contain information with which your views might disagree. Third, YouTube is not a source, as well as tweeter and personal blogs, see our guideline on ithere. Four, everyone is welcome to contribute to Wikipedia as long as you abide by the rules. And last but not least, as a personal note, I am an immigrant too. I was born in Russia but then moved to USA, and it doesn't mean that I am not welcomed here. As far as fascists go, people in Western Ukraine are not the same fascists which were there 60 years ago. In fact, they fought against Germans, but also fought against Soviets and Poles, because they wanted their Western part to be independent from the rest of the USSR.--Mishae (talk) 14:28, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with another IP troll. I'd much rather count the juntas.--Львівське (говорити) 14:31, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Good exercise before going to bed, instead of counting sheep, count juntas. --Mishae (talk) 15:16, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Lvivske, thumbs up on dealing with the weirdo junta-man. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:53, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Oleksandr Turchynov

Hi dear friend, can you be kind to check if my edit here is correctly written? Many thanks. Yours,--Mishae (talk) 03:32, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for the fix. I was a bit confused on what term to use when it came to pro-Russian thing. Like, called them separatists will spark outrage, I thought, and mob wasn't as good as I thought, so thanks for calling them insurgents since that's the most common term, but it still might be disputed because insurgency is name for what's going on in Iraq and on Afghan-Pakistani border. I personally, wont dispute it, I care less, but bear it in mind. Thanks a ton again!--Mishae (talk) 14:34, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Insurgency is the correct term, as is separatists (they want to separate, yes? it's as simple as that). Users on the other end of the spectrum will want to whtiewash it and call them "activists" and "protesters" even if they have guns and bombs, which I think shouldn't be catered to. There's being neutral and then there's just ignoring reality to make everyone happy, and that doesn't tell the story correctly.--Львівське (говорити) 14:36, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi again, can you kindly check my update to above article so that everything will be in correct English? Many thanks.--Mishae (talk) 17:21, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

The above article apparently was vandalized by an anonymous user, can you kindly check?--Mishae (talk) 22:37, 15 April 2014 (UTC)

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Donetsk People's Republic

Does this article have any specific area that needs touch up? I'd be willing to do some refurbishment, if it is necessary. RGloucester — ☎ 18:18, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

for sure compare my diff to my most recent diff and see what others have done. From what I can see some users have inserted some sketchy info with non-RS sources, so that would be the first thing to assess. I'm usually on top of reviewing material but that gap where I took a break is where the 'refurb' stuff came in in small doses --Львівське (говорити) 19:16, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

• By the way, should we include anything about the supposed/non-existent Odessa People's Republic in the unrest article? I feel like we should at least have a mention of the fiasco, as the Odessa People's Republic article is likely to be deleted. RGloucester — ☎ 19:36, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

I'd only mention it if it were real, otherwise relegate the snafu to the timeline. if it was just an internet hoax then its not worth being the be-all-end-all of odessa activity, ya know? --Львівське (говорити) 19:49, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Yeah, the timeline seems appropriate. RGloucester — ☎ 21:18, 16 April 2014 (UTC)

Oleh Dubyna

Can you check if the above edit to the article adds a due weight content? Man ythanks in advance.--Mishae (talk) 01:06, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

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Please do not add unreferenced or poorly referenced information, especially if controversial, to articles or any other page on Wikipedia about living persons, as you did to Victor Yanukovich. Thank you.

The source doesn't say this. And I suspect you know it already. --Moscow Connection (talk) 18:49, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

The quote is verbatim from the source. I want to assume good faith but this is twice now you'd said this, so flatly you are lying now and blanking content. --Львівське (говорити) 18:52, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

It's resolved: [2]. It was probably due to some regional filtering or something. We didn't see the same page. Let's talk on the notification board. (I've already explained there why the information I removed and you re-added was incorrect.)
If you remove the warning section on my talk page with some edit summary explaining it was due to regional filtering or a mistake or misunderstanding or something, I will remove this section on your talk page too. --Moscow Connection (talk) 20:45, 17 April 2014 (UTC)

User talk page edit request

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Yekaterina Gubareva

Your argument could be used for Pavel Gubarev the same way or for Aksyonov, or the 2014 Crimean referendum. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 01:39, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

we have an article on Aksyonov's wife? --Львівське (говорити) 02:06, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

If you are going to turn the stub article on the wife into a redirect to the husband, then you need to have some stuff about her in the article on the husband.--Toddy1 (talk) 02:43, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

I didn't turn it into a redirect...I PROD'd it.--Львівське (говорити) 02:45, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Thanks.--Toddy1 (talk) 09:13, 20 April 2014 (UTC)

Please refer to the talking page

and don't delete user contributes, I suggest you not to participate in WP:WAR https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=List_of_people_killed_during_Euromaidan&action=history