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Now, that may change in the (near) future and in that case we can change the wording. But as of right now, it's just not the case that Russia recognized the referendum.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 02:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
Now, that may change in the (near) future and in that case we can change the wording. But as of right now, it's just not the case that Russia recognized the referendum.[[User:Volunteer Marek|Volunteer Marek]] ([[User talk:Volunteer Marek|talk]]) 02:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)
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This page could benefit from translation from the German: de:Donezk Jdavidb 18:14, 12 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I took the important stuff from the German page and added it here. I added in the twin cities based on other Wiki city sites and from other language Wikis. Olessi 02:47, 1 Jun 2005 (UTC)

Donetsk People's Republic

No longer "Ukraine" as country. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bartreligion (talk • contribs) 23:36, 12 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

vandalism

On May 5, 2005 at 15: 30 pm page was vandalized by 216.113.225.201

Yanukovych info pushing

I removed the following (or similar) passage(s) from not only Donets'k, but also from other Donbas pages:

During the 2004 Ukrainian presidential election, the citizens of Donetsk overwhelmingly supported Viktor Yanukovych instead of his rival Viktor Yushchenko.

The reasons are:

  • In this particular article, the passage was placed in the "Ethnopolitics" section with no evident connection to the section subject. WP rules say "Establish context".
  • I believe such passages are highly irrelevant to any city/oblast page, even if layed down correctly. Firstly, they belong to the elections and politics pages. Secondly, we already have some generalization pages to describe the real subject of them in an academic way. Thirdly, Donbas and its cities have millions of population and two centuries of history. Now who thinks the Yanukovych (and Yushchenko) are the top figures of that history :) ?

Best wishes, Ukrained 19:23, 11 February 2006 (UTC)[reply]

4th largest?

About number and composition population of UKRAINE by All-Ukrainian Population Census'2001 data: Kyiv 2611 Kharkiv 1470 Dnipropetrovs'k 1065 Odesa 1029 Donets'k 1016

Those statistics are cited in the Odessa article which claims, in contrast to this article, that Odessa not Donetsk is the fourth largest Ukrainan city. I will go ahead and edit.--Warfvinge 12:14, 28 August 2006 (UTC)[reply]

GA Passed

This article has passed the GA noms. The following are bot-generated suggestions for improvement. The following suggestions were generated by a semi-automatic javascript program, and might not be applicable for the article in question.

You may wish to browse through User:AndyZ/Suggestions for further ideas. Thanks, Tarret 13:24, 29 January 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Any info on if this article can become a featured article candidate in the near future? Bogdan 01:03, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

It would be good to have the article featured, but it still needs a lot of work: more history, sports, referencing, intro.. But it is better than it was when it was passed as Good article. —dima/talk/ 02:01, 12 April 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Donetsk rocks!!!

I came from there :-P. M.V.E.i. 09:21, 15 August 2007 (UTC)[reply]

GA on hold

This article has been reviewed as part of Wikipedia:WikiProject Good articles/Project quality task force in an effort to ensure all listed Good articles continue to meet the Good article criteria. In reviewing the article, I have found there are some issues that may need to be addressed.

  • Bullet-points should be avoided when possible.
  • The "famous person" section should be cited and made into prose.
  • "A famous preserved building", "famous pole vault athlete", "Donetsk is a well-known educational location" - famous and well-known are peacock terms
  • Em dashes should be unspaced.
  • Please provide citations for these statements:
    • "The city also contains a total of 125 slag heaps."
    • "In the beginning of World War II, the population of Stalino consisted of 507,000, and after the war - only 175,000. The Nazi invasion during World War II almost completely destroyed the city"
    • "For every killed Nazi soldier, 100 inhabitants were killed, and for every killed policeman, one inhabitant was killed."
    • "In 1970, Donetsk was recognized by UNESCO as the cleanest industrial town of the world. Donesk was granted the Order of Lenin in 1979."
    • "Residents of the city tend to be more pro-Russian in their political beliefs. This has been massively exploited during 2004 presidential election, in which the city mostly voted for candidate Viktor Yanukovych, which had been announced as the winner of the election by the Central Election Commission. The vote was later proven to have been falsified, with many of the falsified votes coming from the surrounding region."
    • "The largest religious body with the most members is the Ukrainian Orthodox Church (Moscow Patriarchate)."
    • "taxicab service, of which there are 32 in Donetsk."
    • "The whole airport complex was finished in 1973."
    • "Directly under the city lie coal mines, which have recently seen an increase in mining accidents."

I will check back in no less than seven days. If progress is being made and issues are addressed, the article will remain listed as a Good article. Otherwise, it may be delisted (such a decision may be challenged through WP:GA/R). If improved after it has been delisted, it may be nominated at WP:GAC. Feel free to drop a message on my talk page if you have any questions. Regards, Epbr123 08:19, 18 September 2007 (UTC)[reply]

As little progress has been made in the past two weeks, I'm afraid I've had to delist the article. Epbr123 09:52, 2 October 2007 (UTC)[reply]

Minor fixes

The lead says "Donetsk...is the large city in Eastern Ukraine...". Could someone change that to "Donetsk...is a large city in eastern Ukraine..."? ("a" instead of "the", lower case "e" , "eastern".) Thanks--92.40.170.60 (talk) 09:10, 26 July 2008 (UTC)[reply]

Stalino was named not after Stalin

How is that possible? There is no way it would be named Stalino for reasons other than the main ENEMY OF SOVIET UNION. That is just too clear of a cut and explicit to try confuse people with some non-existant theories. There is no way to call the town this way after its steel industry. Russian language is not as rigid as English to fall for this confusion. Aleksandr Grigoryev (talk) 00:44, 14 July 2009 (UTC)[reply]

climate

Is that accurate? I see the source, but on temperature maps I have, it appears that the July average high temp is significantly higher than 77F... guess based on the map and data from nearby cities suggests somewhere between 81-85F for a July high. Not a huge difference, but I wonder about alternative data sources. Prospect 2000 (talk) 05:22, 10 October 2009 (UTC)[reply]

Names and transliterations

I made an effort to sort out the various spellings and their respective transliterations, but was reverted with an absolutely meaningless explanation (what on God's green Earth is "muddle" supposed to mean?). I don't want to start a revert war, so could someone please explain to me the logic behind having the Ukrainian transliteration for the Russian spelling and vice versa? Thanks. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 00:47, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

I think that what Toddy was objecting to was not fixing the transliterations, but the fact that the most common name in English for this city is the Russian version, so the article is named that and the Russian version should be on top in the template. Since the majority of the citizens of Donetsk speak Russian, the Russian version should take priority in this case. (This is not true of the majority of Ukrainian cities, of course.) I fixed the transliterations and kept the Russian version on top since that one matches the name of the article. --Taivo (talk) 01:19, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Oh, ok. Thank you for clarifying. ~~ Lothar von Richthofen (talk) 17:16, 28 November 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Statue of of Artem (Fyodor Sergeyev)

Artem (Fyodor Sergeyev) was not an adopted son of Stalin. Actually, the only son of Fyodor Sergeyev -- Artyom Sergeyev -- was adopted of Stalin after his father (Fyodor Sergeyev) has died. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 91.89.14.196 (talk) 13:14, 8 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Russian variants do no require citation

Standard Wikipedia practice in eastern Ukrainian, where as many as half of the population speaks Russian natively, is to include the Russian variants on placenames. No citation is necessary any more than a citation is necessary for placing the Ukrainian variant in placenames where the majority of the community speaks Russian as their first language (as in the Crimea). The citation tags were nothing more than WP:POINTy editing by an anonymous editor who is pushing an anti-Russian Ukrainian POV. Citations are not necessary for these things. --Taivo (talk) 02:16, 24 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Who made it up "Russian variants do no require citation", Tavio? Russia is not Ukraine! Russian language is not official in Ukraine! The regionals languages in Ukraine don't count.--68.38.122.179 (talk) 23:56, 12 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
You clearly don't know anything about either language use in Ukraine or Wikipedia policy. In eastern Ukraine, Russian language variants are more commonly used than Ukrainian variants and Wikipedia is not bound to any government's political dictates. --Taivo (talk) 01:02, 13 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]
Rubbish. Russian is an official language in Donbass, Crimea, and many other areas in Ukraine, and that means at least as much as the official state language. In those areas most of the population doesn't even know Ukrainian. Who are you to decide which variant/language is ok, and which one "don't count"? 2.124.24.195 (talk) 14:52, 20 February 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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some sources[which?] state that the city was briefly called Trotsk

The author may add reference: Information given by Sofia Alexandrovna Gitis (Софья Александровна Гитис), the Press secretary of the Donetsk Regional Museum of Local History (Донецкий краеведческий музей) contained in the local newspaper "Donetsk news" (Донецкие новости), 2007, No 27, the article "The Birth of the Donets Basin" (Рождение Донбасса). See, e.g., http://infodon.org.ua/uzovka/141 (Russian language.) V.Grekov (talk) 18:09, 17 May 2012 (UTC)[reply]

economic costs for pollution cleanup

Pollution is also not mentioned in this article, and yet cleanup costs will be enormous.

G. Robert Shiplett 15:04, 4 January 2013 (UTC)

One-day "Republic" in the introduction

Shall the introduction mention the 7th March protests? It is that important to the overall knowledge about the city? i don't think so. 193.0.116.21 (talk) 12:45, 8 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Completely agree. Should be moved to the history section, but has no place in the lede. § DDima 05:59, 9 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Under the city's flag on the article there is a link to the Flag of Donetsk. It routes you to the flag of Donetsk Oblast, not Donetsk city. Perhaps it should be changed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 99.102.178.28 (talk) 04:21, 20 April 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Russian recognition

Re this edit [1].

Russia's statement is not a recognition of the outcome of the referendum. It's just diplomatic talk. See [2]: "Russia stopped short on Monday of outright recognition of the contentious referendums organized by separatists in Donetsk and Luhansk, Russian-speaking provinces of southeast Ukraine".

Now, that may change in the (near) future and in that case we can change the wording. But as of right now, it's just not the case that Russia recognized the referendum.Volunteer Marek (talk) 02:17, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

added see also

Added:

{{for|the self-proclaimed state in eastern Ukraine|Donetsk People's Republic}}

For the self-proclaimed state in eastern Ukraine, see Donetsk People's Republic.

Zeddocument (talk) 05:05, 13 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

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