User talk:MatthewVanitas

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Occupy Democrats submission

Hello Matthew, I added several links from publications (Philadelphia Magazine) and the David Pakman Show that featured the Raise the Minimum Wage campaign, the who, what, when (with source). They should be a big help proving the notability and relevance of the Raise the Minimum Wage Campaign by Occupy Democrats.

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Thank you Matthew for your help

Matthew--

Creating a wikipedia page is so much more difficult than I thought when I first started on this adventure. Thank you so much for your help! I am still tweaking my article, but think I am getting the hang of references. I appreciate the time and effort you dedicate!

Sincerely,

Navychick

I was wondering why you denounced my religion as a hoax, man? Knawbrawchxxian is no laughing matter.

Knawbrawchxx

I was wondering why you denounced my religion as a hoax, man? Being a Knawbrawchxxian is no laughing matter.

New Article. Asastikar

Dear Matthew, Many thanks for your kind cooperation in earlier projects. I am a bit stuck with posting a new article in Sandbox. Is it because I already have one article (SHREEM Group of Companies) on hold, which doesn't allow me create a new one? Seeking help. Regards Asastikar (talk) 06:21, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Asastikar, when you go to User:Asastikar/sandbox, it's taking you to the SHREEM page because there's a WP:Redirect on the sandbox page. To get to the Sandbox itself, when the Sandbox bumps you along to the Shreem page, just under the title there's a little subtitle saying "Directed here from /Sandbox". Click that link, and you'll to right to the sandbox and can remove the Redirect code and start working in your sandbox again. It sounds more complicate than it is, give it a shot and let me know if you have any trouble. MatthewVanitas (talk) 06:28, 13 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you so much, MatthewVanitas, That was very fast. Followed your instruction and I was able to proceed with the new article. I now have saved the new one, but I did not see the option to 'submit for review' option. Am I missing something? Thanks again.

Hello MatthewVanitas

Thank you for your prompt responses. I followed your instruction, but now am unable to submit the new article for review. Am I missing something? HELP! Regards. Asastikar (talk) 09:32, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Asastikar, simply put the code {{AFC submission}} at the top of your page to mark it as an AFC draft. That will put the gray "not yet in line" template at the top of your article. When you're ready for review, click the "Submit" button and it will go in line for review with a big yellow box at the top. When you do that, make sure you use the "change name of draft" tool at the bottom of the yellow box to move your draft to the proper name. It's easier than it sounds, and easy after you try it once. MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:58, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi MatthewVanitas

Many thanks. I could do as guided. I was able to submit the article for review. Asastikar (talk) 00:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Kevan Hall

Hi Matthew,

I just noticed you decline the page I created. I think I gave substantial evidence to demonstrate Kevan Hall is notable - both his collections and Kevan have been featured on many television shows that are widely distributed. Is there an appeal process?

Hello User:Aus475, you don't need to "appeal" in WP:Articles for Creation. It's an "iterative" process; that is, you can keep working on it until it gets good enough to publish. All we ask is that you read the advice provided for you, improve the article accordingly, hit the Resubmit button when ready and when it meets standards we will Accept it. A Decline is by no means permanent, and many good articles get Declined several times until they're good enough, it just means that as it currently stands the draft is not yet ready. Improve it, click Resubmit, and be ready to make further improvements if so advised.

Did you read WP:Notability (people) yet? If not, strongly advise you do, as it will solve most of your questions. So far as your current sourcing, the Essence piece is just a few photos but doesn't appear to have substantive discussion about Hall and his importance, so you can have that footnote but it doesn't advance your case. The January article mentions his label but doesn't appear to mention Kevan at all; do not include any source that proves facts not about Kevan, we only want sources that prove things about him personally. His own page and the YouTube clip can be allowed, but they don't advance his Notability because they're involved with him directly. However, the LA Times article is exactly the sort of sourcing you want to have, and more like it. You must show that other experts find him worth writing about. That's Notability in a nutshell.

To find good articles to inspire you, go to Wikipedia:WikiProject Fashion, and down and to the right is a chart of top-rated articles. Take a look at some of those, ideally "Low" importance and "GA" (good article) class, which will be other small articles but of good quality. "Low" isn't a knock on the subject, it just means they aren't in the 2% of most important/famous fashion topics, but can still be "GA"-rated well-written and informative articles. Use those as your guide.

Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:53, 15 November 2014 (UTC)

Hi Matt - I believe I fixed the citations and added sources. Can you please review and let me know if you have additional comments? Also, it looks like the picture was taken down - is that right? I'd like to add it back if possible... Thanks for your help!

Don't forget to sign your posts with four "~" in a row, or hitting the Sign button at top of your editing window.

Hey User:Aus475, I Accepted the article, so now it's live. The reason there's no image is you can't just steal other people's copyrighted work, so you do need to watch that. You can only submit a photo if you as the original photographer, or the person who is the owner of the copyright, specifically release it under WP:Creative Commons, through WP:Wikimedia Commons. You might want to take a glance at WP:Images for the general guidelines, but broadly speaking "I found a picture of him on the internet" is absolutely not going to work.

But the article itself is live, and you can figure out the photo thing at your own pace. MatthewVanitas (talk) 03:24, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Pranapada

Matthew Saheb, thanks once again. I am proud to know you. I have read many of the over one thousand pages created by you, and learnt a lot. But do correct me where I am wrong; kindly teach me to improve myself. I have been working on Agni, do let me know about the quality/short-comings etc., of the work done by me thus far. Regards.Aditya soni (talk) 03:36, 16 November 2014 (UTC)

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Request on 00:23:48, 17 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Joecsiart

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I am writing to see how i can get my page about matt fulchiron published. I understand taking out silly lines/inside jokes and citing his own podcast. Can I cite other peoples podcasts? all of the information about him i got from listening to his show, should i take information he provides on other peoples shows?

Joecsiart (talk) 00:23, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Joecsiart, I strongly advise you read the guideline WP:Notability. The long and short of it is that we don't care at all what he says about himself, we care what reputable, unrelated, objective people have to say about him and his impact. Anyone can claim whatever about themselves, and another amateur podcast might not be too choosy about facts, but Spin magazine, Al Jazeera, Pitchfork, the LA Times, etc. can be broadly expected to get facts more or less right and focus on important facts readers want to know. You need to remove all the cites to his own podcast, and I wouldn't bother citing anyone else's podcast unless it's a famous professional one, like NPR's Radiolab or something. Big-name sources aren't always right, but at least they can be held accountable for mistakes, unlike some random person's Tumblr page.

Basically, for any fact about him, you have to demonstrate that people competely uninvolved with the show, who are recognized media experts, care about it at all. For example, the "5 icecream trucks" controversy. If this controversy only exists on the show and in the minds of the audience, then it's not something we need on Wikipedia. If, on the other hand, a major pop-culture publication, legal journal, or any kind of pro media wrote about "hey, here's an interesting legal dispute on a podcast", then it's worth having and citing to that source.

For finding sources and using them, see WP:Reliable sources and WP:Referencing for beginners. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas (talk) 02:21, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

World Aviation

Matthew. I created the Draft:World Aviation page a while back. Can you move it to mainspace or let me know what needs to be amended still? Since this used to be a publication from before the internet age, online references are hard to give, but the scan of the its front-page should prove its existence. Since it is important for an encyclopaedia, I think it is notable for the categories it is related to, like Category:Aviation magazines. Thx for your reply. 6th Common Sense (talk) 11:31, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Two pages of same article

Hi Matthew,

Thanks for reviewing the page I submitted! I'm an amateur Wikipedia user, and this is only my second translation of a foreign wiki page. However, I see that my translation hasn't been merged with the old stub, but has instead been created on a new page with no link to the original French version.

Here are the links: stub-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_d%27Agnou ; translation-https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ch%C3%A2teau_d%E2%80%99Agnou

I really appreciate your help, as I'm not confident enough to try to resolve this myself (if that's even possible).--KeeperOfBees (talk) 17:19, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello KeeperOfBees , I can help you, but give it a shot on your own first using these instructions (with helpful picture): Help:Interlanguage_links#Adding_a_new_link. I bet you can get it right pretty easily, but let me know if not. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:28, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

I tried, but the original English stub page is already linked to the French source. I'm not even sure how the two pages could exist with the same name. Is there a way to merge them, or delete the old stub? My continued thanks to you!--KeeperOfBees (talk) 23:27, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

18:45:54, 17 November 2014 review of submission by Willy209

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I have added in citations in the MLA format, as well as the in-text citations. Willy209 (talk) 18:45, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Request on 20:17:11, 17 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Cairnduff&carnduff

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Each incidence of a name has been retrieved from a reliable source, scotlandpeople eg: the official source for census records for Scotland, and also marriage and death records. I indicated where these can be sourced and not the actual information itself which would infringe on copyright, the information is there to inform others in their own family research. I have over the years collected such information to build up family trees, linking these entries as do many other people with the similar interest, and connect and understand out genealogy history better. As to WP: Notability: I can assure you many people have the same research interest, and over the years I have received many emails with information to add, or someone looking for help with their own research. P.S. Genealogy is no 25 in the list of hobbies. Source Wikipedia...

If you have any idea how I can resolve my problems I would be grateful I really want to add an article into Wikipedia on this subject, thanks Allan Cairnduff.

Cairnduff&carnduff (talk) 20:17, 17 November 2014 (UTC)

Copyright checks when performing AfC reviews

Hello MatthewVanitas. This message is part of a mass mailing to people who appear active in reviewing articles for creation submissions. First of all, thank you for taking part in this important work! I'm sorry this message is a form letter – it really was the only way I could think of to covey the issue economically. Of course, this also means that I have not looked to see whether the matter is applicable to you in particular.

The issue is in rather large numbers of copyright violations ("copyvios") making their way through AfC reviews without being detected (even when easy to check, and even when hallmarks of copyvios in the text that should have invited a check, were glaring). A second issue is the correct method of dealing with them when discovered.

If you don't do so already, I'd like to ask for your to help with this problem by taking on the practice of performing a copyvio check as the first step in any AfC review. The most basic method is to simply copy a unique but small portion of text from the draft body and run it through a search engine in quotation marks. Trying this from two different paragraphs is recommended. (If you have any question about whether the text was copied from the draft, rather than the other way around (a "backwards copyvio"), the Wayback Machine is very useful for sussing that out.)

If you do find a copyright violation, please do not decline the draft on that basis. Copyright violations need to be dealt with immediately as they may harm those whose content is being used and expose Wikipedia to potential legal liability. If the draft is substantially a copyvio, and there's no non-infringing version to revert to, please mark the page for speedy deletion right away using {{db-g12|url=URL of source}}. If there is an assertion of permission, please replace the draft article's content with {{subst:copyvio|url=URL of source}}.

Some of the more obvious indicia of a copyvio are use of the first person ("we/our/us..."), phrases like "this site", or apparent artifacts of content written for somewhere else ("top", "go to top", "next page", "click here", use of smartquotes, etc.); inappropriate tone of voice, such as an overly informal tone or a very slanted marketing voice with weasel words; including intellectual property symbols (™,®); and blocks of text being added all at once in a finished form with no misspellings or other errors.

I hope this message finds you well and thanks again you for your efforts in this area. Best regards--Fuhghettaboutit (talk) 02:20, 18 November 2014 (UTC).

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03:27:59, 18 November 2014 review of submission by Jag149

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  • Draft:The Costa-Hawkins Rental Housing Act (California) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

Hi. Thank you for the quick turnaround on the review. I was wondering if the article could be re-reviewed. The submission was denied on the basis that it lacks reliable sources. This page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Law_sources_as_reliable_sources indicates that primary legal sources are generally reliable. My submission refers to the California Civil Code. While it is, admittedly, a commentary on the law rather than the text of the law itself, this page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_Act is about another California state law that is similar to the one I submitted an article on, and it consists of analogous content. It seems that one difference is that it actually links to the code section (whereas my article merely states what the code sections are). I'm not very good at using the publishing part of wikipedia, so I was planning on adding references later, but I will try to add that reference before your next review). Thank you. Edit: Oh, also, Costa-Hawkins appears in multiple wikipedia pages, e.g., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rent_control_in_the_United_States#Purpose_and_scope. It's just that it doesn't have a page yet. I was trying to fill in the blanks.

Jag149 (talk) 03:27, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

No worries Jag149, Legal isn't my specialty, I just saw the lack of cited sources and hit the default "Unsourced". It might not hurt to paste your explanation at the top of the draft so other reviewers know the convention, though you definitely want to cite the law, bare minimum, and it'll help if you can add a few comments about how it was viewed in the press, and cite those to the news articles. Thanks for pressing forward, MatthewVanitas (talk) 04:04, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Oh... thanks for explaining. So, I think I did that now... I added a citation to the California Legislature's website with a direct link to the primary statutory language. Do you think that's good enough? Do I have to do anything to resubmit it?

Cokodeal references challenge

Thank you sir for the review on the Cokodeal draft.

Please sir, the organization is a start-up organization and does not yet have enough review in independent reliable sources. With time, i hope that there would be reviews in independent journals and articles. Is there a way to get around this for now, and still make the article accepted?

Change the user name

Hobbistry → Ramyaathobbistry

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• Datestamp: 12:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)
• Reason: As per guidelines

Hobbistry (talk) 12:38, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Request on 19:15:57, 18 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Everfishusllc

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Everfishusllc (talk) 19:15, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Can you see me online?

I'm trying to chat with you and this doesn't work????

Hi,

My name is Adrienne and I am working on a global event called:

"Napa Seafood Summit"

We are trying to get this into your dictionary, but it has been rejected.

Can you please help me edit this and get it accepted.

I can be reached at:

Don't put personal email/phone info on Wikipedia, just use the internal Talkpage system

Thanks, Adrienne

Adrienne, I've given you very specific advice both at the top of your draft, and on this very page here (see User_talk:MatthewVanitas#19:35:22.2C_14_November_2014_review_of_submission_by_Everfishusllc). Have you read my advice so far? If not, I'm not very inclined to give you more advice if you ignore the advice I've already taken the time to give.

If you want to talk about your draft, please read the info in the pink box at the top of your draft, and my answer to you from 14 Nov higher up on this page. After you've read those, just post here in this section again and let me know if you have further questions beyond what I've already answered. MatthewVanitas (talk) 19:40, 18 November 2014 (UTC)

Izrael Hieger

Hi Matthew- Thanks for your feedback and help on the article on Izrael Hieger. I have attempted to address the issues you raised and wondered if you could have another look please? Thanks Rdowell88 (talk) 00:00, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Dial tone the producer

Hi could you tell me the reason why This page was not put up as this was all the info about the artist producer??

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This should Read Dial Tone (producer) maybe that will help?

ok So maybe Change to Jnr Tubby (aka Dial Tone the Producer)

as there are more writings on his new band Orange Hill

Dantewhyte (talk) 11:48, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

could you please tell me what you would need to help this article go up all other info is first hand

http://orangehillproductions.com

Hello Dantewhyte, did you read the large pink box at the top of your draft which explains exactly why your draft was declined, with links to the guidelines that show what you must do. Please make sure you read those first, then feel free to ask me any follow-up questions. The simple reason is that haven't bothered to provide any evidence whatsoever that anyone important has ever found Dial Tone worth writing about. If they have, you definitely want to provide that because our general policies are:

http://www.mixmag.net/music/exclusive-music/download-orange-hill-productions

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/a72acc2c-54d3-4f31-b65e-a22777812672

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/records/nznwjq

http://www.iluvlive.co.uk/blog/814/Orange-Hill-Productions-Ft-Vybz-Kartel-Sneakbo-Pon-Time-NEW-MUSIC

Articles generally require significant coverage

in reliable sources

that are independent of the topic.

Note the words "independent of the topic". That means "first hand" sources are the last thing we want. Anyone can put whatever they want on their own page, so we don't care in the slightest what it says about DT at http://orangehillproductions.com, what we care about is what they say about him on Pitchfork, Spin, the London Times, professional news sources like that.

MatthewVanitas (talk) 11:53, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Ok here are a few like that what you asked for nothing better than the bbc yeah? mixmag??

http://www.mixmag.net/music/exclusive-music/download-orange-hill-productions

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/artists/a72acc2c-54d3-4f31-b65e-a22777812672

http://www.bbc.co.uk/music/records/nznwjq

http://www.iluvlive.co.uk/blog/814/Orange-Hill-Productions-Ft-Vybz-Kartel-Sneakbo-Pon-Time-NEW-MUSIC

http://www.prsformusicfoundation.com/Grantees/Orange-Hill-Productions

http://unrealityshout.com/forum/orange-hill-productions-featuring-busy-signal-fatman-scoop-kano-wine-de-best

14:14:43, 19 November 2014 review of submission by Jbdbaseball

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Hi, I saw that my article was declined from being uploaded to the wikipedia page because the page already exists; however, my intent was not to create a new page, but to be added as a subsection under the SNARE (protein) page. On that page, there is a section titled "Toxins" that is lacking a lot of information, and my hope was to improve on that section rather than creating a new article entirely. I may not have linked my article to the SNARE (protein) page, but I was unsure how to do that. Anyways, if the content I included (or at least part of it) would be useful as an addition to the SNARE (protein) page, then it would be great to see it improved. Thanks.

Jbdbaseball (talk) 14:14, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Jbdbaseball, if you want to add to an existing page, you do not need to go through AFC for that; afc is only for new articles entirely.

I suggest you just add in your part to the existing article, and if it gets reverted by someone (which is always possible with a sudden new addition), then stay calm and contact that user on their Talkpage to see how you can come to an agreement on the expansion. MatthewVanitas (talk) 17:06, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Request on 18:57:40, 19 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Camwest13

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I need help creating an article. I have the external sources, but I don't know how to go about placing them in the article, or how to make them "verifiable". Help please!

Camwest13 (talk) 18:57, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Request on 20:52:26, 19 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by Mexloco

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Thanks for the words of encouragement MatthewVanitas. I will look into finding additional sources. On that note, I have found the restaurant in question (Alux) listed on several top ten lists for different or unique restaurants/bars. Would this kind of list be considered a good source? My worry is that since these types of media are mostly used for commercial purposes they may not clear the bar. That said, almost all of the other places featured on these lists already have wikipedia entry's. Other sources I am already aware of are guidebooks, but these also don't seem ideal to cite due to their commercial aspirations. Within wikipedia I also found a reference to the restaurant from an episode of the amazing race when contestants dined there. It has been featured in other TV shows, but I don't know how I might cite those sources properly. Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated. Mexloco (talk) 20:52, 19 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Mexloco, I'm not as strong on restaurant criteria, so I suggest you check with Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Food. Make a very clear new title on the talk page, provide a link to your draft, and explain clearly you're question. Not to overexplain, just too many novices use an unhelpful section title like "My article" and leave a vague question like "how do I use sources' as opposed to "here is my Draft:X, here are links to sources I have so far, any suggestions on other sources, which of these sources are worth using?" etc. etc. Good luck, MatthewVanitas (talk) 20:33, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

Hey Matthew! Thanks for your input.

I saw that you had looked over the Wikipedia page I had submitted, and I would like to thank you for your time and suggested revisions.

I am still a bit of a newbie when it comes to putting up Wikipedia pages, so please forgive my ignorance on the subject.

Per your suggestions, I have added external references to my Step Afrika! article (1 from a book, 2 from major newspapers [LA Times, Wash Post], and 4 from other reliable external sources [WETA, Citizen {South African newspaper}, National Public Radio, and the magazine called The Source].

I have also reviewed the 'golden rule' for wikipedia and read up on what constitutes an effective reference.

I think that I have made this page a lot less 'about us' and have instead included concise, notable information that is more encyclopedic in nature.

Do you have any other suggestions as to how I can make this article more aligned to the philosophy of Wikipedia before I resubmit it?

Thanks again for your help !

Barrett Kinsella

Hogg's "Three Perils"

Thanks Matthew. The new (popular) edition contains only the title page of Vol III, which is better than nothing. I've never added an image to a page but will give it a go. Not having access to the scholarly edition or 1823 edition I don't know if there was an illustrated frontispiece. I would guess it didn't have in-line illustrations, it's not that type of work. Chrismorey (talk) 19:20, 20 November 2014 (UTC)

If the title page is a modern one, you have to upload it under WP:Fair use, using the "Upload" tool in your blue menu bar at the left of your screen right now. If it's a pre-1923 image that the modern publishers have copied, it gets uploaded to Wikimedia Commons. If you have trouble in either case, contact WP:Teahouse for mentorship. The main thing is to be sure you're very clearly indicating the date of the work, where you got the image from etc. It's a little annoying the first time you try it, but after a few times you can do it in your sleep. MatthewVanitas (talk)

Thai dessert articles

Hi. I see from User talk:Jummyy that you've also noticed the influx of Thai dessert articles. The same thing happened around the same time last year; I suspect they're related. It pretty much seems to be an undocumented student assignment. I'd left most of the editors the {{welcome student}} message, but none have replied. They might be more responsive if I asked in Thai, but seeing that these articles didn't have serious copyright/plagiarism issues, I didn't press further. --Paul_012 (talk) 18:53, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Paul_012, yeah it's a pretty clear trend. But overall every single one I've encountered is Notable, the English isn't terrible, and publishing them just involves removing a little WP:OR and WP:NOTCOOKBOOK. It'd be easier if I could just let the whole class know not to include recipes, and encourage them to include photos, but overall nothing terrible. MatthewVanitas (talk) 18:58, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Request on 21:26:22, 21 November 2014 for assistance on AfC submission by JTHarkness

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My proposed article was rejected. The rationale for rejection at this time was articulated well, is understandable and the comments well taken – with no dissent from me, even. I am concerned that any content that does not already come with significant ‘notability’ baggage, would necessarily be rejected, even if the language is cleared of prose, and the content historically accurate and factual.

Yes, the recently released book was a large part of the reason for creating the proposed article – 50% the reason to be exact. The other 50 % was to include a factual, encyclopedic, thumbnail description of a decorated WWI bomber pilot for reference by anyone else. I admit that I carried over too much language from the book’s marketing flyer into the proposed article – a condition of over-familiarity that I have probably become numb to, but can easily rectify. The rationale for a WP entry is experiential – that is, I often Google the object or topic of my interest before heading out to the bookstore. Since I often check out the WP link contained in the search results, I reasoned that similar behavior by others is probable. Thus, it behooves me to try to include the person for whom the factual, historical, biographical memoir was created into WP. Yes, as the proposed article is about my grandfather, I do have a vested interest, which, I imagine, by that virtue alone should not necessarily cause rejection. I can understand and appreciate steps taken by WP to accept only verifiable articles. I have now read most of each of the suggested guidelines about WP:Primary source, WP:Tertiary source, WP:No original research, and WP:Notability, and although your points about my article are well taken, and I can fix it, I now wonder whether such an article has any chance of being accepted. Until now, I was under the impression that Wikipedia, like its namesake origin, is intended to be an online encyclopedia – thus, anything factual and verifiable can be included. The problem here is that even if everything factual cannot be necessarily included, not everything is well known yet, and not everything that is an undisputed historical “fact”, is already in a hardcopy encyclopedia or has several books written about it and a dozen references. The above mentioned guidelines lead me to the conclusion that acceptance is all about “quantity” of appropriate sources. By those criteria, very few noteworthy people who fought in WWI and even received meritorious distinction would qualify. In the case of my grandfather, no one on earth but the Harkness family possesses the WWI diaries of Captain Donald E. Harkness, or the many photographs he took during the war. Thus, no one else besides the newspapers of the time have written about him. I could reference the newspapers, and probably should, but would that satisfy the notability criteria? I could also reference the many WWI reference books diligently read and studied to validate the historical events mentioned in the diaries but they reference the events and not D.E.Harkness. All of which leads me to the conclusion that ‘notability’ would rely solely on the one book and the newspaper references. Naturally, I am concerned that such emendations would be for naught.

As for the image that I uploaded, “Left-Capt-DEH-(London-Feb1919)__Right-FSLT-DEH-(Coudekerque-FR-1916).jpg”, its only purpose was as a visual aide to the proposed article, so if the article is rejected then clearly it only makes sense to delete the image also. JTHarkness (talk) 21:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

JTHarkness (talk) 21:26, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello JTHarkness, if you want to get a most informed view of the cuttoff bar, I suggest you post a succinct version of your question, and link to your draft, at Wikipedia Talk:WikiProject Military History and get the opinion of the experts there. Hope that helps. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:39, 21 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks for your help with Ernest Haskell article

Dear Matthew, Thanks for your helpful comments on my article about artist Ernest Haskell. I think I have fixed all issues, including adding links and pipe-links, except I am still kind of intimidated by doing references. Which section in that link pertains to my case? Thanks for your time, Ivy Chetwynd (Abigail) Ivychetwynd (talk) 15:43, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

No worries Abigail. Probably the main thing you want to read is Help:Referencing_for_beginners#Manual_referencing. It's not so confusing once you give it a shot, so just take your time, and use the "Preview" button to see if you've got it right, and once you get the hang of it it'll be easy to fix the footnotes. Take a look at how I did it; note in Read mode where the footnotes I fixed (all #1) appear as little blue numbers, that match up with the blue number under References. Take a look in Read mode, then go into Edit mode and you can see how I coded in the footnote.

Let me know if you try it a bit and are still having trouble. I'm going to go ahead and Publish your draft, since the content meets standards, and since there's a backlog I don't want to hold the approval up just over formatting. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:35, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

By the way, my comments to you are now on the Talk page of the published article, for reference. You'll also need to apply WP:Categories to your now-published article; not broad ones like "Art" but specific ones like "Category:American lithographers"; not "American people" but rather Category:People from Woodstock, Connecticut, etc. In each category you should be as far down into the subcategories as applies to your subject. There's also a little "Persondata" form at the end of the article (visible only in Edit mode) to fill out for metadata purposes.

I know all the Wiki stuff is a bit overwhelming at first, but just take your time, and ask for help from the volunteers at WP:Teahouse if need be, and pretty quickly it becomes second nature. MatthewVanitas (talk) 21:38, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

Thank you Matthew!!! Great news, and I will keep working on it. Best wishes, AbigailIvychetwynd (talk) 22:13, 22 November 2014 (UTC)

(Sunday November 23) Thanks again Matthew! I did get far enough to use the correct reference system on one book(when I returned to it someone else had finished the job. I will save my notes anyway!), and I added some Categories after checking what other artists had. Will attend to the other issues as soon as I can. This has been a fascinating experience and I appreciate your encouragement very much. The relatives of Haskell are happy about it, and we will tell the art people(curators and authors etc.) The fact that there is now a nice Wikipedia entry about Ernest Haskell will go a long way to help efforts to call attention to this wonderful artist who often gets overlooked, in my opinion for 2 reasons: early death (age 49) and not being part of the "modern" movement although some of them were his friends. Best wishes, AbigailIvychetwynd (talk) 18:17, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello again, thanks for the "polishing". I see why you made a couple of changes! Best, AbigailIvychetwynd (talk) 05:09, 24 November 2014 (UTC)

K.Amarnath

Hello MathewVanitas - Thank you very much for your help and advice with my article "K.Amarnath" (AmarnathManju (talk) 00:37, 23 November 2014 (UTC)). I have managed to resolve all the problems myself re formatting, references inbox, image etc. Just needed to have some patience!  :) Thanks again. (AmarnathManju (talk) 22:01, 24 November 2014 (UTC))

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20:51:51, 23 November 2014 review of submission by Bogancs

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Bogancs (talk) 20:51, 23 November 2014 (UTC)

The page for Eusociality only encompasses one facet of reproductive suppression. It talks in detail about populations that arise from a singly breeding female where some members are under reproductive suppression. However this phenomenon is not limited to just the eusocial colonies of ants, termites, and naked mole rats. The literature we provided clearly dictates it as a phenomenon that occurs much more commonly and with many more examples than just the few on the Eusociality page. Please look at this carefully before you reject our submission once again. It would not be accurate to simply edit the page of eusociality because the examples we provided are not eusocial organisms. May we suggest that a reproductive page is created with a link to eusociality because that is simply an extreme form. If anything eusociality should be under reproductive suppression instead of the other way around as it is now. Please reconsider.

Sanford

Walter Sanford article is now referenced, sourced and ready for re-review. Thank you.

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submitted for review

Dear Sirm

My post on MSTC Limited was resubmitted after incorporating the changes suggested by you some 9 days ago. Any chances of this being review again or being published? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Sds7878 (talk • contribs) 06:41, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Ewan McLennan's Page

Hi Matthew,

All seems to have gone quiet with this submission. If it's in the queue for review and hasn't been looked at yet, then that's fine. However, if it's waiting for something from me, I don't know what it is. Ewan has emailed to say the pictures I uploaded could be used, and as 3 of them were album covers they should be fine anyway.

Is anything waiting for me, or is it just queued up?

Thanks, Naganata

Naganata (talk) 13:53, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Hello Naganata, you are still in queue, we're just really backed up. In the meantime, just carefully measure your draft up against WP:Notability (music) to ensure your subject clearly meets the standards.

Regarding images: whoa, hold up. Wikipedia takes copyright very seriously, as we use WP:Creative Commons licensing. So "sure, go ahead and use X" is not at all sufficient, would get an image deleted immediately. To be able to use the artist's photo or album cover, he would need to fill out a WP:OTRS for explicitly releasing the images to Creative Commons. However, clearly he doesn't want to do that for his copyrighted album covers, making them nearly Public Domain. And before you ask the common question, no "sure you guys can use it, but only for Wikipedia, not for anyone else" is not a legit licensing option, that's not how WP works.

Unless explicitly expired copyright or released in the public domain, album covers can only be used under very strict WP:Fair use criteria, such as a small, low-res image only on the specific article for that specific album (not a sub-section like yours). Put album covers out of your mind for now, focus on getting the draft published. If the draft publishes, then you can solicit photos of the artist, from photo creators/owners willing to release them under WP:OTRS. So yeah, really strict photo policy because we respect copyrights so don't want millions of people using an image that the owner hasn't explicitly released. Hope this helps! MatthewVanitas (talk) 15:24, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

Thanks Matthew,

I've tweaked the article a little. When I said Ewan had granted permission for the album covers, he did it via an email to the address specified in the Consent page. No problem though, as you say, we'll worry about that once the article is published.

Thanks again, Dave

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Hello Dantewhyte, what's your question? MatthewVanitas (talk) 14:31, 27 November 2014 (UTC)

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15:54:05, 1 December 2014 review of submission by Njuhasz

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Hello,

I am a social media and marketing professional for OFS company. I was given a task of creating Wikipedia page for my company. Can you tell me what exactly wrong with OFS page format, content or any information I supplied for this page. I can be contacted by email at redacted

Sincerely,

Natasha Juhasz

Njuhasz (talk) 15:54, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Hello Njuhasz, to be honest your draft is completely not what we need in a number of ways. I'd strongly suggest you read the following guidelines that explain the situation:

• WP:Conflict of interest, WP:Advertising and WP:Neutrality: draft has major issues with being blatantly written for the company, not about the company. Wikipedia isn't LinkedIn, or some place to share information with your customers, we aren't just webhosting. We're a compilation of objective articles about things that uninvolved people find significant about the subject, not what the subject thinks matters (which frankly we don't care about). Note of course that this means that if there is any negative information about your company out there in the news, it will inevitably end up in the article.
• WP:Notability (companies): any article about a company must show that the company is seriously discussed by uninvolved people. Not their own website, not PR fluff, not simple corporate listings. What we need is serious discussion of the company and why it matters from news articles, trade journals, academic articles, published books, etc.

Please take a glance at these guidelines and it should explain it pretty well. MatthewVanitas (talk) 16:53, 1 December 2014 (UTC)

Quicksand (Welsh band)

Hi, this Draft came up in a search, have moved it to article space. Apologies if that's too early but it looks fine. If not please move it back, cheers. In ictu oculi (talk) 22:50, 1 December 2014 (UTC)