Talk:K-Love

Transfer rate

Are we sure about that 21kb/s transfer rate? I know when you first set up their player, you can choose a connection rate up to 300 kb/s. Kc8ukw 04:26, 29 October 2006 (UTC)

21kb/s is correct. That 300kb thing is your connection speed. 21kb/s is the default transfer rate for high speed. If you support K-LOVE financially, you can get up to 64kb/s or something close to that. I didn't see where it was on the page. Is it? 01:39, 10 February 2007 (UTC)

Transfer rates stated for KLOVE online are correct: 21kbps or 64kbps for financial supporters. Should this be in the article? --Dymaxion 14:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

I removed some Kansas City radio thingy. I don't think its relevant to this article. Microbyte 23:08, 5 March 2007 (UTC)

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Merging translators to main page

Considering that the EMF has at least a hundred translators each for their K-LOVE and Air 1 networks, it would be cumbersome, if not impossible, to list them all. Therefore, I oppose this. -- azumanga 17:39, 21 July 2007 (UTC)

I agree with Azumanga if it is a matter of listing each translator/repeater transmitter as separate articles or adding a section to this article. For clarity, separate articles would be best. --Dymaxion 14:40, 22 July 2007 (UTC)

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the proposal was PAGE MOVED per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 00:32, 18 November 2007 (UTC)

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K-LOVE Radio Network → K-LOVE — Official name of the network is "K-LOVE." No disambiguation is required, and move was made with no discussion/consensus. —JPG-GR 07:25, 11 November 2007 (UTC)

Survey

Feel free to state your position on the renaming proposal by beginning a new line in this section with *'''Support''' or *'''Oppose''', then sign your comment with ~~~~. Since polling is not a substitute for discussion, please explain your reasons, taking into account Wikipedia's naming conventions.

• Support as nominator. No discussion/consensus. Dabpage features links to (a) one thing that would never be abbreviated as K-LOVE and (b) two radio stations already dab'd from the article. Additionally, there are two non-links which are unlikely to be found by a search for "K-LOVE". JPG-GR 07:34, 11 November 2007 (UTC)
• Paranormally strong support - this is no more a radio network than NPR, and should not be listed as such, and is many times more notable than any of the listings on the disambiguation page. To make a disambiguation page out of the previous page was not a good idea. The Evil Spartan (talk) 09:11, 17 November 2007 (UTC)

Discussion

Any additional comments:

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

merge proposal

It has been proposed that all station specific articles for K-LOVE stations be merged into K-LOVE. Stations which provide no local programming or other content and carry nothing but network provided programming lack sufficient notability to warrant an article. However, any station that does provide sufficient local programming or has a history (such as ownership changes) which warrants coverage, should not be merged. See WP:WPRS for more information. Any opinions or suggestions would be appreciated.--Rtphokie (talk) 16:21, 19 December 2007 (UTC)

• Support If we create the list in a table, with appropriate links (stations with local history, etc), I think it would be manageable. As you stated above, stations which are simply the local outlet of a satellite feed don't warrant articles of their own. —Preceding unsigned comment added by TheBigFish (talk • contribs) 18:36, 16 February 2008 (UTC)
• Support I would second retaining articles for those stations that have a notable history prior to becoming K-Love stations. There may be some debate on the individual stations' pages as to whether they are notable enough to continue to have a separate article, but that is still preferable to the alternative.--LoadStar (talk) 19:57, 17 February 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose Making the wikipage of my nearest affiliate (KLVM) redirect to the network's page would show a lack of concern for the local purpose that the station is supposedly meant to serve. The station consumes a significant chunk of the local spectrum, and the FCC wouldn't have granted the license if it did not believe the station would benefit us the public in the station's listening area. So the station is theoretically important enough that it should be free to have its own wikipage, which I've produced, and the same should go for other stations, with the exception of translators. Michael Patrick (talk) 06:07, 19 May 2008 (UTC)
• Oppose While this idea does have some benefits, it would be better as the exception, not the rule. For some stations without significant information, it might be okay to do this, but with others, merging it in with the main K-Love article would remove any place for that info. Also, basic information such as transmitting info would lose its place as well. Microbyte (talk) 22:14, 23 May 2008 (UTC)

Flagship Station question

What designates KLOV as the "flagship station?" While the call sign would make this a reasonable guess, I can find no secondary supporting documentation of this, and in fact, the FCC license for KLOV indicates that it is simply "a satellite operation of KLVR-FM(NCE), Santa Rosa, CA" (now Middletown, CA). Additionally, all new K-Love full-power stations request permission from the FCC to relocate studios to those of KLVR-FM (for example, the application for WFZH Mukwonago, WI). Is there a maintainer for this article that can explain the flagship mention, or should this be changed? LoadStar (talk) 19:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Radio Network vs programming service

The structure and history of EMF creates an ambiguity about what K-Love actually is. I've been bold and recast it as a Christian music programming service, rather than a radio network. EMF is the owner and operator of the majority of the stations that carry K-Love (but not all). The K-Love web site promotes itself as a web site for listening to the music in addition to the radio network.

K-Love is analogous to Premiere and Clear Channel. While Clear Channel owns Premiere, and most of its news/talk stations carry the programming (Rush Limbaugh) produced by Premiere, Premiere is more similar to Westwood One or Talk Radio Network. The focus of the company is on producing programming, not operating radio stations that carry the programming, and stations not owned by the parent company also carry the programming. Comments/objections?StreamingRadioGuide (talk) 06:42, 29 November 2008 (UTC)

Call signs

An issue which should be addressed is the call signs of stations which now make up the K-LOVE network. For instance, for more than 50 years, KLON was the call sign of a station in Long Beach. It originally belonged to the Long Beach Unified School District and was used to broadcast educational material to classrooms. Later, it was acquired by California State University, Long Beach and broadcast an eclectic mix of music until September 1981, when it adopted a jazz and blues policy. The station operated under the KLON call sign until 2002, when it changed to KKJZ. The KLON call sign was later acquired by K-LOVE and assigned to a station in Oregon. There are, or will be, many articles which need to refer to the long time, well-known KLON but, unless editors take extra care, such references will just take the viewer to K-LOVE.

Similar situations may exist with other call signs which once belonged to familiar local stations in other areas, but were acquired by K-LOVE. Any ideas? DutchmanInDisguise (talk) 03:14, 4 March 2010 (UTC)