Talk:Pillar (car)

The article needs clarification as to nomenclature, which may or may not be the case with the use of this terminology in the automobile industry.

Specifically, it is unclear whether pillars at specific locations are assigned specific letters or lettered consecutively. The line drawing shows A-B-C for a sedan, A-B-C-D for a station wagon (the SUV), and A-C for the hardtop. The text implies that the letters are assigned consecutively, which would imply that the rear pillar on the hardtop is a "B" pillar (no "C" pillar). Similarly, one would ask if the limo has A-B-C-D-E pillars or A-B-B-B-C pillars.

The example of the station wagon is consistent either way, because of the position of the rear window pillars, so according to the line drawings a Chevy Nomad would have A-C-D pillars (no B pillar).

- stan (unitacx)

dash or no dash

Is it "A pillar" or "A-pillar" --both are used in the article. I vote for dashed. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Markhu (talk • contribs) 03:29, 21 January 2007 (UTC).

Bus

Just to push the definition, what if you have a school bus with more than 26 pillars. Would this nomenclature still hold (then what, AA pillar, BB pillar, etc.?), or is that just nonsense? —Ben FrantzDale 19:22, 5 April 2007 (UTC)

British Useage

I can confirm that "pillar" is the correct English term. Top Gear and Fifth Gear both refer to "pillar", not "post".

American English

"Post" is the correct American english term for a "b-pillar". Only used to describe cars that have a hardtop model. i.e. on the Wikipedia page for "Chevrolet Bel Air" the forst car would be described as a "two door post" and the second would be a "hardtop".209.112.198.165 15:51, 12 May 2007 (UTC)

article Driver visibility

Hello

I mover a part to the article "Driver visibility" Here we can write something about windshield reflection , truck driver blind spots, everything that eliminates the visibility

There is a other article about passengers car blind spots

good luck to you all

Stef

drivers head in the A,B,C,D pillar image

Is it possible to draw a human head in this image

I can not edit this file type

Thanks Stef

Pillar (automobile)

From time to time someone moves this article to Pillar (car), as has been done recently, without discussion and without regard for the fact that numerous artcles link to subsections of Pillar (automobile) an will be orphaned -- or already have been. Please undo this move, and instead, discuss the move. 842U (talk) 11:34, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

Nothing has been "orphaned". There is a redirect in place. The main article is at car. No discussion is required. In fact, the article began at this title, and was unilaterally moved away from it by a user with serious misconceptions. I merely restored the original title. RGloucester — ☎ 15:16, 25 May 2015 (UTC)

The parent article for motorcycle tyre is tire. We all know how that ended. I'm all about bringing back things to their original spelling (see my request at village pump(policy) which keeps getting picked apart by pedants, as opposed to being discussed...) anyways, without the rant, it should be moved back rather than changed without a move request, as that is the life we're living in now.

Cheers, ~~ipuser 90.198.209.24 (talk) 23:19, 26 May 2015 (UTC)

We're not living any "life". This remains. RGloucester — ☎ 00:57, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Why? ~~ipuser 90.198.209.24 (talk) 08:12, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Requested move 27 May 2015

Pillar (car) → Pillar(automobile) – Was changed without dicussion, as "parent article" is Car. EXACTLY the same rationale was put forth to move Motorcycle Tyre to Motorcycle Tire and was shot down by a vocal british English contingent, thus, this is not an uncontroversial move, though, I completely agree it should be at "Pillar(car)", it should be changed back, and discussed first. 90.198.209.24 (talk) 08:28, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose. Not an ENGVAR issue as Americans use the term "car" as well! -- Necrothesp (talk) 13:54, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

As the nominator, I never claimed it was an American issue. It's a guideline issue. Articles shouldn't be moved without consensus. There was just an editor moving. I'm just saying, let's move it back, and talk about it first. Wowsers. ~~ipuser 90.198.209.24 (talk) 08:40, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

• Oppose – The main article is at car. There is no ENGVAR issue. "Car" is the most common term regardless of where one is from. It is also much more WP:CONCISE. The article started here, and should remain here. RGloucester — ☎ 14:42, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose. Khestwol (talk) 15:44, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
• If move, then move to Pillar (automobile) with space. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 15:49, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
• Oppose nominator does not appear to like spaces, but we use spaces to separate the parenthetical disambiguator, unlike multiple instances of the nominator not using it. -- 65.94.43.89 (talk) 03:45, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

• Let's not be silly -- obviously the nomination here is for the switch from car to automobile.--Yaksar (let's chat) 05:33, 28 May 2015 (UTC)

• as the nominator, I'm not here because I don't like spaces, nor do I have any real strong feelings about the subject of whether it should be car or automobile, nor do I feel that it is an ENGVAR issue. I never said it should be restored due to ENGVAR, I said it should be restored as it was unilaterally moved to match a parent article, which, using the precedent set by motorcycle tyre is completely against the spirit of wikipedia guidlines. My suggestion, people SUPPORT this move, and then immediately close it, and then nominate it to be moved to whatever you feel it should be. If, as a community, we now want articles to match the parent, that is great, it will clear up a whole lot of issues related to cars (windshields, tires, etc). ~~Cheers, ipuser 90.198.209.24 (talk) 08:38, 28 May 2015 (UTC)