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:I agree. Whoever keeps adding The Roots as an associated act please stop. [[User:Vette92|Vette92]] ([[User talk:Vette92|talk]]) 03:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)
:I agree. Whoever keeps adding The Roots as an associated act please stop. [[User:Vette92|Vette92]] ([[User talk:Vette92|talk]]) 03:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)


== Real name ==
== Real name ==ff


Anyone know what Tyler's real name is? that'd be nice to see on the page <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.217.182.46|98.217.182.46]] ([[User talk:98.217.182.46|talk]]) 22:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->
Anyone know what Tyler's real name is? that'd be nice to see on the page <span style="font-size: smaller;" class="autosigned">—Preceding [[Wikipedia:Signatures|unsigned]] comment added by [[Special:Contributions/98.217.182.46|98.217.182.46]] ([[User talk:98.217.182.46|talk]]) 22:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)</span><!-- Template:UnsignedIP --> <!--Autosigned by SineBot-->

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Bio Information

IF ANYONE CAN SEE THIS, Edit the page to say he's 22. Today's his birthday and I can't edit it due to the "protection of biographies of living people" policy. The page says he's 21, but he's 22 now. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 208.127.89.91 (talk) 03:41, 6 April 2011 (UTC) As stated by the template, this is a BLP. As such, we should be extremely careful about adding information that's not backed up by a reliable source or is original research. This page has been a target for vandalism so far but there have also been subtle additions like the Grand Prairie Texas High School thing that stayed in the article for several days despite not being supported by sources. 71.62.188.38 (talk) 00:31, 18 February 2011 (UTC) I'm just wondering why we don't have a redirect from "Tyler Okonma". I mean if someone searches for Robert Allen Zimmerman, the Bob Dylan page pops up, so why doesn't searching Tyler Okonma bring up Tyler, the Creator? —Preceding unsigned comment added by 71.141.230.7 (talk) 02:29, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

One user continually adds "The Roots" as a related act. Yes, I know that two or three members of "The Roots" played backup for Tyler and GIANT BLACK HAIRY COCK!!!!!!!! on their Jimmy Fallon show appearance but that doesn't really make them a related act. That's like saying Guns N'Roses is a related group to the Black Eyed Peas because Slash played with them in the Super Bowl Halftime show. Please try to engage in discussion on this issue rather than force in unsourced assertions. 71.62.188.38 (talk) 21:54, 19 February 2011 (UTC)I've now registered an account, but I am 71.62.188.38. Chillllls (talk) 22:06, 19 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I agree. Whoever keeps adding The Roots as an associated act please stop. Vette92 (talk) 03:57, 20 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

== Real name ==ff

Anyone know what Tyler's real name is? that'd be nice to see on the page —Preceding unsigned comment added by 98.217.182.46 (talk) 22:41, 26 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Now we seem to have Tyler's legal name on the page (and the same has been added for Earl Sweatshirt) but there are no sources for the addition and a Google search doesn't really turn up anything. Can someone provide a verifiable source for this? Chillllls (talk) 21:16, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/9371/32825294.jpg Tyler and Earl are brothers so they have the same last name. L Trey (talk) 21:27, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
An Imageshack image of a high school yearbook that shows someone who may or may not be Tyler the Creator is so far from WP:RS that it is laughable. Please read Wikipedia policies regarding reliable sources and verifiability. Chillllls (talk) 21:45, 28 February 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. Then we should wait until Tyler becomes famous. Some reliable source will write his bio. But in the interviews, Tyler many times said he has an African surname. L Trey (talk) 15:07, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
What interviews? Where? Please provide some evidence to back up your statements. Chillllls (talk) 16:42, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.piquemag.com/?p=110 L Trey (talk) 17:16, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Notice how he doesn't say his last name, he just says that it's "African." This doesn't meet the threshold for verifiability. Chillllls (talk) 17:36, 1 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IN5Alud0G6s L Trey (talk) 06:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Comma

Is the correct styling 'Tyler the Creator', or 'Tyler, The Creator'? Both are used in the article, surely one should be chosen and stuck to. 94.192.45.239 (talk) 21:32, 24 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

In terms of style, I think "Tyler, the Creator" is correct. I believe that the page is listed as "Tyler the Creator" because of the personal preference of the wiki editor who created the page. Chillllls (talk) 04:25, 26 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Agreed, he always writes it as "Tyler, the Creator", the title of the page should be changed. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 198.151.130.71 (talk) 08:44, 29 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]

indeed. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.130.39.1 (talk) 03:54, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Censorship

The "feuds" section doesn't seem like it's particularly necessary, but if it is, b.o.b.'s lyrics ought not to be dashed out as they are. According to wikipedia:offensive material, "... a vulgarity or obscenity should either appear in its full form or not at all; words should never be bowdlerized by replacing letters with dashes, asterisks, or other symbols." I tried to change it but the change was blocked by a filter. Someone else ought to take care of it. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 107.8.190.110 (talk) 08:05, 27 March 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Looks like it got taken care of. Also, you probably got blocked by the filter do to not being signed in. Anons posting profanity usually don't have good intent ;) E123 (talk) 01:11, 30 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Tyler's real birth date

Alright, does anybody who knows Tyler in real life have any details on his actual birth date? No real name is fine, but considering how many people are likely to reference this page, being sure that we have accurate biographical data seems important.

My best guess is May 6, 1991 based on his Twitter posts (although he once stated March 6, 1991 and apparently also mentioned being 20 years old in a recent interview). It's worth mentioning that he openly states that he enjoys lying in interviews about his name/age/etc -- funny, but doesn't help us make this page... --24.13.224.40 (talk) 10:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Other biographical details

Tyler prominently reps his atheism, which starkly contrasts with most rappers out there. His history of self-injurious behavior also seems worth mentioning, especially given that it is an increasingly common problem in his generation. Anyone more familiar with him have good sources on these? --24.13.224.40 (talk) 10:18, 5 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Atheism: [1] ; SIB: [2] --24.13.224.40 (talk) 18:55, 6 April 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Neither of these issues seem particularly tied to his notability: he is a famous rapper who is also an athiest, not a rapper who is famous for his atheism (ditto for the injurious behavior). When reliable secondary sources discuss his atheism or self-injurious behavior in the context of his music or other notable activity, then it can be discussed in the article. Chillllls (talk) 15:08, 5 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hating religion does not mean you're an Atheist. For example, I dislike religion yet I believe in God. KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 04:02, 29 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Criticism

A section of criticism based on one account of homophobia on his twitter account criticized only by 3 random bloggers? This obviously is a worthless section. Lil Wayne does the same but it isn't on his page. —Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.53.50.113 (talk) 05:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Guardian is not a "random blogger"--it is a newspaper with the second largest online readership of any English-language newspaper in the world. Neither is The Wall Street Journal. And neither is the other source cited--Tyler's own Twitter page.

Noting what is or is not included in another article is not within Wikipedia's guidelines for what it worthy of inclusion in an article.

The criticism included in this Wikipedia article represents a pattern of criticism from major professional critics and newspapers (as the included references indicate). Jtropp1 (talk) 23:14, 13 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Criticism section wasn't particularly neutral and had some poor sources in it, but given the amount of attention he has had for this issue it belongs in the article. I've tried to make it more balanced and added sources. If anyone has any issues with it feel free to discuss it here. If anyone removes this they'd better have a good explanation.--Michig (talk) 16:35, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you, Michig -- the addition of Tyler's response to the criticism (as cited) does add balance to the article, and that the artist saw need to respond to such significant criticism as has been levied in major newspapers, reinforces the importance of the Criticism section. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Jtropp1 (talkcontribs) 18:39, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Personal blogs are certainly not acceptable sources to use here to back up negative claims about a living person. Only the man himself can really know whether his use of these terms is out of a prejudice against homosexuals or just derogatory use in general (both 'gay' and 'faggot' have negative meanings beyond being references to homosexuals) albeit use that is likely to be construed by some as homophobic. If you want to add more than what's there now, please acquaint yourself with WP:RS and make sure you cite acceptable reliable sources.--Michig (talk) 18:42, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The only "personal blog" used as a reference (http://www.joemygod.blogspot.com/) has been recognized for awards by GLAAD, The Village Voice, and the Weblog Awards (Bloggies). At a certain point a "mere" blog qualifies as a legitimate source. However, as the Wall Street Journal and The Guardian suffice as references for the relevant point, and as (per WP:SPS) self-published sources should never be used as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer, you are correct that this site should not be used as a reference here.
You are correct that, as they are currently used in the vernacular, "gay" or "faggot" when used as insults may be intended to be generally derogatory and not specifically meant to demean homosexuals--just as one doesn't necessarily intend to demean Jews as greedy or Romani as dishonest when saying, "He jewed me down" or "He gypped me." Context matters. But within the context of the lyrics of Tyler's songs, for example (from "Assmilk"):
"I hate gays, gangbangers and fucking jerkers
Unless it's gay gangbangers that's fucking jerkers
Whoa yo, yo, no homo, I'm not gay, faggot,"
the string of synonyms makes it clear that Tyler is referring to men who have sex with men, and that he means "gay," "homo," and "faggot" as epithets directed specifically at homosexuals. (Note he does not say, e.g., "I hate gays, assholes, douchebags," as if "gay" or "faggot" were interchangeable with other generic insults.) To suggest that it requires a biased POV to see "I hate gays...no homo, I'm not gay, faggot" (esp. when spoken by a heterosexual person) as homophobic is like suggesting it requires a biased POV to see "I hate Blacks...no Afro-American, I'm not Black, nigger" as racist (esp. when spoken by a white person).

Jtropp1 (talk) 21:16, 14 May 2011 (UTC) His support of Frank Ocean coming out needs to be acknowledged. His use of slurs and his support of his friend is non sequitur and a moot point.[reply]

Twitter and copyright-violating lyric sites are also not good sources to use.--Michig (talk) 19:00, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
You're right about not citing (arguably) copyright-violating lyrics sites; I should have cited the song directly.
As for using Twitter: Since the controversy over Tyler's language is in part explicitly as reaction to his postings on Twitter, directly citing his page seems appropriate. The referenced Twitter page (https://twitter.com/#!/fucktyler) is confirmed by reliable sources as Tyler's (e.g., by MTV at http://rapfix.mtv.com/2011/05/10/tyler-the-creator-detained-not-arrested/). The guidelines at WP:SELFPUB suggest that using a confirmed Twitter account as the reference for a quote from the creator of that account is appropriate (though of course other sources should be used for an article as well).
I do appreciate your working to keep this and other articles up to Wikipedia's encyclopedic standards, and recognize the importance of erring on the side of omission over unverifiable, potentially libelous language. Jtropp1 (talk) 21:47, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Anything based on his lyrics needs to cite a reliable source stating what his lyrics are. I'm not saying you're wrong in your analysis, but it's important that any sources cited are suitable. If a reliable source can be found that has cited those lyrics and reached a conclusion based on them, it would be much better to cite that rather than reaching conclusions yourself. --Michig (talk) 22:18, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
I hear you. At this point, I think the relevant, significant information on homophobia-related criticism of Tyler is fine for encyclopedic purposes as of your 18:35, 14 May 2011 edit. Jtropp1 (talk) 22:41, 14 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In my opinion, this is a serious violation of WP:UNDUE. There are only very fleeting references to perceived homophobia in the articles cited, except for the blog post (and I'm not convinced by your argument that the blog is a WP:RS simply because it won a blog award from GLAAD). Could you explain why you, Jtropp1, think it deserves its own section? Chillllls (talk) 03:21, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Apologies, I was looking at an old revision of the page where the blog was still being used as a source. I still have some issues with this section, however. Why is the only criticism being leveled at homophobia in his lyrics? The Guardian article, although it mentions homophobia in the title, equally addresses homophobia, misogyny and violence in his lyrics. I think that the reason you were accused above of POV editing is that the only criticism you (Jtropp1) are adding to the article is criticism of homophobia, when most sources offer much more criticism of the violence and misogyny in his lyrics. If anything, I believe the criticism section of this article should be expanded by a sentence or two to more accurately reflect the criticism in sources. Does that sound ok to you? Chillllls (talk) 03:43, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Re: expanding the Criticism section to include types of criticism leveled against Tyler beyond that for using homophobic slurs. Of course I'm just one contributor, but that sounds fine to me: any criticism that is encyclopedia-worthy in virtue of having received significant major media attention (demonstrable, of course, with appropriate citations) seems like a worthwhile addition. Jtropp1 (talk) 01:43, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
In all honesty, my WP:AGF meter is tripped when something like the second sentence of your comment is written by a editor with less than 100 edits; however, there are several WP:RSs that provide fodder for a criticism section. I'll draft something in the next two or three days about Tyler's lyrics that I'll submit on the talk page for comment before editing the criticism page section in the article. Chillllls (talk) 03:28, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
Hey now--just because I'm a minor contributor doesn't mean I'm not a major user of this resource or don't take the project that is Wikipedia seriously. I edit and comment under my real name which, though obviously not required for good faith edits, does (from a quick survey of the top contributors) put me with only ~5% of Wikipedians.* I'm a scholar in real life, and try to ensure that any changes I make here are of the sort that make Wikipedia a more useful resource for people like me coming to it to learn more about people and things in the world. I appreciate that you also take the standards that have evolved here seriously; I look forward to seeing the expansion you draft for this article. Jtropp1 (talk) 14:45, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
*The number of Wikipedians contributing under their real names may be slightly higher than the ~5% I mentioned, as some include that information on their User pages. Jtropp1 (talk) 14:57, 18 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I think it should be noted that the majority of the uses of the word 'b***h' are in a single song, "B***h Suck D**k," which is meant as more of a comical song. There's a difference of presentation in saying that he basically says the word 'b***h' every minute and saying that other than this particular song he says 'b***h' about thirty times, which is likely more on par with any other rapper. (Sorry for the censoring but wikipedia labelled it as potentially unconstructive otherwise.) — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.50.211 (talk) 19:59, 1 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Requested move

The following discussion is an archived discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the move request was: Move . Doesn't appear to be any issues here. KiloT 21:07, 13 June 2011 (UTC)[reply]



Tyler, the CreatorTyler, The CreatorRelisted. Vegaswikian (talk) 19:00, 22 May 2011 (UTC) All his albums and mixtapes are labelled as such. It is his official stage name. The redirect page and article page should be swapped around. The capital "T" in the word "The" is intentional and should be used in the title. The correct style of his name is shown on his record labels website here and on his itunes page here Kidstylez (talk) 16:49, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I strongly recommend that all parties cease edit warring over this issue and start discussing it here to achieve consensus, unless you want get blocked.--Michig (talk) 17:15, 15 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]

How is there any debate over this? His stage name is whatever his stage name is. Either it does or doesn't have a capital "The". In this case, any evidence I'm seeing directly from the source (that is, CDs, his Twitter page, etc.) has it as a capital "The". What's the other side's argument? 69.123.136.21 (talk) 13:58, 17 May 2011 (UTC)ThatGuamGuy[reply]

Looking at the "Naming Conventions" article elsewhere on the site, it says pretty clearly: "For multiword page titles, one should leave the second and subsequent words in lowercase unless the title phrase is a proper noun that would always occur capitalized, even in the middle of a sentence." In this case, "Tyler, The Creator" is a proper noun that always occurs capitalized. Further, somebody argued that "the" should never be capitalized; this is a misreading of the rule which says: "except for articles ("a", "an", "the")" -- which is specifically in reference to titles of books, movies, etc. I honestly don't understand how there's a debate about this. 69.123.136.21 (talk) 14:03, 17 May 2011 (UTC)ThatGuamGuy[reply]

The debate has come from User:L Trey who repeatedly changes all the OFWGKTA affiliated pages from "Tyler, The Creator" to "Tyler, the Creator" with the reason as stated above which is a misconception of the rule. Kidstylez (talk) 14:39, 17 May 2011 (UTC)[reply]
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

Religion

To me it seems that Tyler could be a devil worshiper. His lyrics brings God down for all religions. I don't know if its a gimmick or the real thing. Could we get it conformed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoeusHelios22 (talkcontribs) 18:48, 13 July 2011 (UTC) Just because you're atheist doesn't mean you're a devil worshiper, moron. 50.53.50.113 (talk) 00:40, 18 July 2011 (UTC) Well when you have an inverted cross on your head it draws suspecion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoeusHelios22 (talkcontribs) 17:49, 19 July 2011 (UTC)[reply]

"worshipper", "confirmed", "suspicion". Practice harder on your spelling! Contaldo80 (talk) 13:09, 31 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

tyler is athiest — Preceding unsigned comment added by Claywill4 (talkcontribs) 17:28, 20 September 2011 (UTC) The inverted cross is to troll people like you. It's called the cross of saint peter. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_of_St._Peter — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.14.172.182 (talk) 18:34, 27 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Tyler, The Creator DOES NOT WORSHIP THE DEVIL. He just doesnt give a fuck.

Inverted cross is the sign of the Antichrist. So when he puts an inverted cross on his albums it makes him look like he worships Satan. Tyler, The Creator is atheist. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 50.130.39.1 (talk) 03:46, 7 October 2012 (UTC)[reply]

The inverted cross is the symbol of the Pope and is referred to as the Cross of St. Peter, any connection to the anti-Christ is unfounded, even among its use as an anti-Christian symbol. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 24.151.50.211 (talk) 01:07, 9 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Hopsin Beef

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bULBnef6w6k&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL Hopsin has some strong feelings for tyler. — Preceding unsigned comment added by CoeusHelios22 (talkcontribs) 18:02, 19 July 2011 (UTC) someone should look into whether tyler the creator had anything to say back to hopsin. With the things hopsin said, I would expect tyler the creator to get upset. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 174.109.6.51 (talk) 08:28, 22 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]

If you don't hold religion high, which is apparent that Tyler doesn't, than anything said about religion should be taken lightly. Inverted crosses, mentioning of 666, etc, hold no value to them. It doesn't make him a devil worshiper. ~cnd — Preceding unsigned comment added by 75.90.142.54 (talk) 05:22, 8 December 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Tyler responded to hopsin, with the game in martians vs goblins, which explains why the game had hopsin's eyes. they have been calling eachother martians and goblins before the song was made. Then swizZz (of funk volume) responded with a 'martians vs goblins freestyle'. since then, nothing has been heardd of — Preceding unsigned comment added by 23.17.239.118 (talk) 02:21, 19 February 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Controversy Section?

The Controversy Section of the article, written and polished with many edits by several Wikipedians, and the subject of an earlier discussion thread, was anonymously blanked with no comment or discussion. I believe it should be restored to one of its earlier, citation-rich versions. Jtropp1 (talk) 20:37, 20 July 2011 (UTC) In Domo Genesis' track "Whole City Behind Us" featuring Tyler, the Creator; Tyler responds to hopsins -"and Goblin, you get no props on it. It sucks so much i get blowjobs from it." by saying "Goblin was a dissapointment. Ya right, shit dropped I bought a house that night."[reply]

Edit request from Tgullage, 24 August 2011

Tyler Okonma is from Hawthorne, Los Angeles Source: http://www.formspring.me/wolfhaley/q/227247792450461891

Tgullage (talk) 15:08, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: Social media sites are not generally considered reliable sources. Topher385 (talk) 20:12, 24 August 2011 (UTC)[reply]


Edit request from Essdot (talk) 23:48, 8 September 2011 (UTC), 9 september 2011

Footnote 13, referencing a video interview with Tyler, should be linked to original source and not the copyright infringing youtube rip: So please change "http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qlktx-eYDx8" to "http://svtplay.se/v/2440877/psl/tyler-the-creator-odd-future, PSL."

Done, thanks. Adrian J. Hunter(talkcontribs) 14:09, 9 September 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Genre

Tyler is not horrorcore — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blackflag133 (talkcontribs) 03:14, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Yes he is KING OF WIKIPEDIA - GRIM LITTLEZ (talk) 07:17, 8 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

He definitely is NOT horrorcore. Fucking retards...


    • Why the fuck do people keep saying this? Don't be fucking idiots, ladies and gentlemen. A large amount of his music can be CLEARLY categorized as horrorcore due to the lyrical themes and the ominous instrumentals. I can understand Tyler denying the claim that he makes horrorcore due to his desire to not be pigeonholed, but for him and a lot of his fans(I am a fan, but not of ALL of his stuff) to say "ITZ NOT HRRORCROE" without any evidence or legitimate reasoning is not only just ridiculous(especially considering WP:SUBJECTIVE, it's also woefully ignorant. Dankyhashpants (talk) 03:47, 16 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requested edit for the Misogyny section

I think that describing Tyler's rape-themed lyrics as misogynistic and fantasies is too strong outside the context of one's personal opinion and that "rape-themed lyrics" rather than "misogynistic rape fantasies" would suffice. Because Tyler's lyrics like that aren't supposed to be taken at face value. Also, I think it would be helpful to note that Tegan and Sara are lesbians; without knowing that one wouldn't get why Tyler asked them if they need "hard dick". 66.244.5.20 (talk) 23:15, 11 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Done I simply removed it. KING GRIM LOL YO WHATS UP (talk) 00:07, 22 October 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The original request also discussed including reference to Tegan and Sara being lesbians for context. I feel that bit of context greatly changes the nature of the comment. It is more of a sarcastic quip than an actual offer. Both Tegan and Sara's homosexuality is noted on their wikipedia page. — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTomberlin (talkcontribs) 17:09, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Style Section

My edit to the style section was removed by KING GRIM LOL YO WHATS UP on the grounds that it was not of a neutral perspective. However, I not only maintained neutral perspective at all times, but evidenced objectivity with verifiable sources from reliable third parties with appropriate editorial staffs. Simply because KING GRIM LOL YO WHATS UP disagrees with the addition does not make it false, and does not mean it is in any way infringing upon core policies as he tells me I have done. --Cfox101 (talk) 21:13, 8 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

That article is not credible and it's an opinion piece. No place on wiki. If a credible third party source details the style and it's not an opinion piece, then feel free to add it in. KING GRIM LOL YO WHATS UP (talk) 05:41, 9 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Regular Show

On Regular Show he wasn't Mordecai's brother. He was a rapper in Crew Crew named Blitz Comet, not Blitz Common. Change it, please. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.18.187.62 (talk) 01:29, 22 November 2011 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 10 January 2012

In the Filmography Section the name Blitz Common in Regular Show should be changed to Blitz Comet. Blitz Comet is the correct name of the character Tyler played.

Sources:http://theregularshow.wikia.com/wiki/Blitz_Comet and I watched the episode.

Datassatad (talk) 23:21, 10 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

DoneBility (talk) 00:04, 11 January 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Social Media Presence

Tyler has shown a penchant for using social media websites like Twitter to engage and interact with his fans, as well as other celebrities[1] . As of March 2012, he has accumulated over 18,000 tweets on his Twitter account and boasts well over 800,000 followers . His account has also been verified by Twitter, which is only done to “establish authenticity of well known accounts so users can trust that a legitimate source is authoring their Tweets”[2] . Tyler has gained notoriety for using social media to post comments and thoughts often construed as offensive or distasteful. In May 2011 he was criticized by the openly gay indie music duo Tegan and Sara in an open letter that accused Tyler of “misogynistic and homophobic ranting and raving” in his music and public comments[3] . He crassly responded to the duo with an inflammatory tweet two days later[4] . Tyler has also engaged in feuds with other celebrities through his Twitter account, notably Chris Brown[5] .

Edit request on 25 March 2012

Tyler also dissed Immortal Technique on Yonkers, in turn Techniques label mate Diabolic, responded by torching Tyler to his own Yonkers beat. Tyler has not responded.

Dedflesh (talk) 18:29, 25 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please be more specific about what needs to be changed. We also need reliable sources to add new content. Thanks!   — Jess· Δ 06:28, 26 March 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit request on 24 April 2012

Please add to filmography: Tyler appeared in 1 episode of Punk'd (season 9 episode 4, 2012) and played as the host of the show. http://www.mtv.com/shows/punkd/episode.jhtml?episodeID=193481 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_7lxwfqkBzw Thanks.

86.29.222.196 (talk) 16:00, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

 Done Thanks for improving Wikipedia. mabdul 17:24, 24 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

On December 22, 2011, Tyler was arrested during a show at the Roxy Theatre in West Hollywood, and charged with "suspicion of vandalism" for alleged destroying of a sound equipment belonging to the venue. He was released on $20,000 bail.

The bolded section should be "for the alleged destruction of sound equipment" or "for allegedly destroying sound equipment." — Preceding unsigned comment added by JTomberlin (talkcontribs) 17:01, 29 April 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request July 4, 2012

Request that the supportive tweet Tyler made in lieu of Frank Ocean coming out be added to Homophobia section, as it is relevant enough to be on the Frank Ocean page, relevant to the topic, and adds nuance to a section that has already been criticized for possible bias. How Tyler treats the openly queer members of his group is as relevant to whether or not he is homophobic as his use of the word faggot and his claims against his own homophobia.

ETA: news source for the tweet as well. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Boneknife (talkcontribs) 05:23, 5 July 2012 (UTC)[reply]

AUSTRALIAN MEET GREET INTERVIEW (LOVE IN AUSS?) 17/11/12

AUSTRALIAN MEET GREET INTERVIEW (LOVE IN AUSS?) 17/11/12 Tyler Recently had a Meet and Greet in Sydney last week and Met lots of Fans.Out of no where tyler jumped in the crowd and grabbed one gurl he said she was his biggest fan and that she stood out from the others, tyler said "I dont know theres something about her!.Not knowin that the gurl was secretly talented she did a small cover for tyler. Tyler was shocked and said" mind f*** dis nigga is dope!" rigth after he Requested a Photo and gift to this gurl. Tyler thaan received a kiss from the young gurl and the greet was over. Tyler gave her 6 tickets back stage for his next deul concert with ODD FUTURE, by the end of the day tyler was tired and we were lucky enough to gain a small interview with him he said "this dope a** gurl she was so beauitful, she had the voice, the looks and NIGGA shit bitchh, she was dope!" the reporter than said " tyler it seems your inlove?' tyler than said "shit! iam shit!" (reporter) "tykler did u get anything besides a kiss or?" (tyler) "f*** yeh i got some DIGITS nigga!raw nigga DIGITSman i dont know whaat to say i wanna come back her, wait oi want to live here with this Beauty my goodness nigga F***!". Not only did we get the interview with Tyler we were lucky enough to get a pep talk with the gurl. Emily Rene aka Tylers Australian Crush. _click this link for the full video on interview with description below_34"038289{}{{}9383 124.176.63.132 (talk) 07:12, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: - There are no understandable details of the edit you would like to be made. You haven't provided a reliable source for an edit to be made. It doesn't really sound like the sort of content that would be suitable for an encyclopedia - we don't report gossip or tabloid style news stories. Begoontalk 08:27, 20 November 2012 (UTC)[reply]

New picture

That picture of Tyler, The Creator is almost 2 years old. I request it be changed to a more recent profile shot. 12.124.86.186 (talk) 17:08, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: If you have a specific picture that can be used that is in line with the image use policy, feel free to upload it and reopen this request. —KuyaBriBriTalk 18:19, 14 December 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Filmography Edit/Update

Tyler made a brief cameo Season 1, Episode 10 of "The Mindy Project

You can watch the clip here, http://video.vulture.com/video/Tyler-the-Creator

If it's of any significance or not, Tyler was listed in the credits as Tyler "Mr. Hot Sauce" Haley BlackJesus99 (talk) 11:02, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Done Vacation9 17:48, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Additionally, in 2013 Tyler has appeared on Late Night With Jimmy Fallon and the David Lettermn Show

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7FDeL7Imi7o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAUx_yhqhk4 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 72.67.13.187 (talk) 23:22, 5 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Music Career: Wolf & Loiter Squad (2012-Present) Edit/Update

Updating information to both Tyler's "WOLF" album and "Loiter Squad" show, Wolf is scheduled for release on April 2nd, 2013 and Season 2 of Loiter Squad premiers on Adult Swim 3/10/13

Sources for both this information can be found on Odd Future's youtube page from these follow videos, Wolf Press Release Video and Loiter Squad Season 2 Teaser

Additional info, the first single and video for Wolf has also been released, titled "Domo23", you can watch here — Preceding unsigned comment added by BlackJesus99 (talkcontribs) 11:17, 22 February 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Geography 101

"English independent record label" to "United Kingdom independent record label". Much as I'd like to fix the basic factual error (or deliberate Easter Egging?) implicit in [[United Kingdom|English]], the article's semi-protected, so I can't. 84.203.35.120 (talk) 09:16, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Partly done: I have instead used "British", as the proper adjective form was the easiest way to correct this error without doing much more rewriting of the sentence. If you still object please reopen this edit request. Thanks. —KuyaBriBriTalk 15:24, 2 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]
I'm content with that. "British" is somewhat ambiguous, as it can mean pertaining to either Great Britain or the United Kingdom, but it's the usual demonym, so one can't really complain. (Except in Northern Ireland, where they do so routinely.) 84.203.35.120 (talk) 06:30, 3 March 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Awards Section

He was nominated for Best Hip Hop award in 2012 at the Japan VMA's but lost to Kreva. I think it should be added anyway since his other nominations that he didn't win are there.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MTV_Video_Music_Award_Japan_for_Best_Hip-Hop_Video — Preceding unsigned comment added by 173.59.47.51 (talk) 18:03, 23 April 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Someone change his picture to this !!!

http://cdnl.complex.com/mp/620/400/80/0/bb/1/ffffff/a2359d449ae489ec0f6d418881798cd6/images_/assets/CHANNEL_IMAGES/MUSIC/2013/01/the-50-most-anticipated-albums-of-2013/tyler_the_creator_wolf_432421.jpg

The current photo is old, the linked one is from 2013 — Preceding unsigned comment added by RedMajor213 (talkcontribs) 19:42, 2 June 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Surname?

Shouldn't the article refer to him by Okonma, like the way people like Tobuscus are referred to as Turner? - Drilly Dilly (talk) 22:49, 7 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

WOLF

nothing about WOLF has been added to the page since the Fallon performance, which was before it dropped. Also, the upcoming WOLF movie should be added, as well as the album's history after Fallon. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 68.81.78.155 (talk) 23:37, 10 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Categories

Add these categories: Pranksters, Anti-Christianity, Obscenity controversies and American skateboarders‎. MyHeroIsGone (talk) 23:57, 15 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Edit Request on 29 September 2013

Request that the Music Career section be amended to include Tyler's newest song, Garbage, which appeared on The Music of Grand Theft Auto V Volume I: The Originals and was written specifically for the game. Sources located on Pitchfork and Rolling Stone. -- AO-Jaql (talk) 23:02, 29 September 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Semi-protected edit request on 7 May 2014

You mention music videos for his music videos of the Wolf album but forget to mention "Tamale", which is his most recent full music video. Pieisgood51 (talk) 18:05, 7 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: please provide reliable sources that support the change you want to be made. 123chess456 (talk) 01:44, 8 May 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Drums??

Um, I'm not getting the "instruments" section in the infobox stating he plays druns. I even Googled "Tyler, the Creator drums" and it shows no result that he plays drums of any sort. Is there a proper source stating he does? Second Skin (talk) 02:55, 18 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

I have and didn't feel like sorting through several sentences just to find a place that says he plays drums. I thought if he did, it would be as easy just to find a picture of him playing drums simply by Googling his name and adding "drums". As high profile as this person is, why is there only one source stating this? Second Skin (talk) 02:05, 22 August 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Redundancy in Feuds Section

In the first sentence of the second paragraph of the feuds section someone wrote "Brown tweeted on Twitter", which is redundant. Could someone please edit this to just say tweeted?

Done Cannolis (talk) 00:40, 13 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Requesting to change slang word "disses"

In the "Feuds" section of the article (section 5), request to change "disses" to another synonym (e.g. criticize, belittle, bad-mouth, etc.). The word in question is regarded (mostly) as slang and takes away from the quality and professionalism of the article. Jabbahwocky (talk) 01:29, 30 September 2014 (UTC)[reply]

Not done: I have not changed the wording, as it seems to be appropriate, but I did update the wikilink to go to the diss track article to help clarify the usage of the term. -- ferret (talk) 19:34, 3 October 2014 (UTC)[reply]
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  2. ^ "About Verified Accounts". Retrieved 9 March 2012.
  3. ^ Q, S.K. "A call for change". Retrieved 9 March 2012.
  4. ^ Oknoma, Tyler. https://twitter.com/#!/fucktyler/status/69920687548145664. Retrieved 9 March 2012. {{cite web}}: Missing or empty |title= (help)
  5. ^ Stopera, Matt. "Chris Brown Vs. Tyler The Creator". Retrieved 9 March 2012.