Talk:2015 Russian Sukhoi Su-24 shootdown

Other events

This section makes limited sense to me. The event is entirely unrelated, in a separate location by different actors. In addition, neither of the presented sources links the events. Otherwise we will be listing everything that happened around the Syria-Turkey border that day... If sources tie these two events together in some way (either through analysis or because of a RL link) then it would be worth including. --Errant ^(chat!) 14:36, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Its against similar targets by rebel fightrs (the capturing of the pilot is also by rebel fighters).Lihaas (talk) 14:38, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Sure; where is your source making that link? If it's you making that link then unfortunately it's original research --Errant ^(chat!) 14:41, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Per ErrantX, I've removed the section until a source says the events are related, rather than just occurring at the same time. --Jayron32 14:43, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Better solution...moved it to backgound context.Lihaas (talk) 14:50, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Well that's even worse; it's not background at all. :/ It's just not relevant to this article. --Errant ^(chat!) 14:57, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

It's good information, just not relevant to THIS article. May I suggest moving it to an alternate article, perhaps Spillover of the Syrian Civil War? --Jayron32 15:07, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

It is on the same dy at the border involving Russians...Lihaas (talk) 15:19, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

There are billions of other things that occurred on the same day. Unless a reliable source says it was related to (as in caused, was an effect of, or was connected in any other way) to this event, we should not report it as such. That two events happen in nearby locations are not sufficient to establish causation. --Jayron32 15:22, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

How many things on the same day near the Turkish border involving ATTACKS on Russian state employees?Lihaas (talk) 15:49, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Find a source that says they are related. --Jayron32 15:54, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

What is backround? its ocontedxt. That's what all background sections are about. Look at such articles.Lihaas (talk) 16:27, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

An event that happened almost simultaneously can't be "background" because it can hardly have had an influence. I echo the others: add information only with sources backing its relevance to the topic at hand. LjL (talk) 16:31, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Reactions

Are we already starting with the never-ending series of international reactions, even though there was a comment asking not to do that, which was subsequently removed? Now I see reactions from Czech politicians. Seems pretty random. LjL (talk) 17:09, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

Im the one who made the comment, I am trying my best to avoid another "International reactions to..." debate. (Last one for those interested [1]). If you, or any other editors want to make an international reactions separate article complete with tiny flags go ahead. - Knowledgekid87 (talk) 17:36, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm scared

Welp, WWIII has started.

I hate you Turkey, you ISIS supporting, Al-qaeda supporting, idiots! 142.197.17.212 (talk) 20:08, 24 November 2015 (UTC)