Talk:Oak Island

Subterranean Chamber

Two of the article's details seem contradictory, or at least the combination seems highly improbable. If bedrock starts at 45 meters below the surface, then folks from the 18th century would have found it staggeringly difficult to construct a "subterranean chamber" at a depth of 60 meters below the surface. Catsmoke (talk) 14:06, 17 June 2015 (UTC)

History Channel

How reliable is the History Channel's coverage? I understand that they over-dramatize it, but there are several discoveries being made. Would news coverage of any findings count? Its a frustrating truth that there is a substantial lack of any real scientific research into treasure-hunting. DaltonCastle (talk) 22:02, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

I don't see why it wouldn't count if there is video footage of the discovery itself. Not sure if those things count as original research or not. Oak Island Kid (talk) 02:18, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@DaltonCastle and Oak Island Kid: It is definitely a situational source. It would be great if there was a quote that's truly indispensibly notable, or that truly illustrates or characterizes the article's substantiated material. Maybe if they give a quote about how difficult life is there, how dangerous the work is, or citing some obscure factoid like how many people have died there. Or to cite that a depiction or reenactment of a particular site or event that's already reliably described in the article. That would basically give a living record of what has always been reliably established through history because we never had copious live footage before. So in other words, I can safely say offhand that we can cite ancillary information there, and I don't know what else. I'm still in the first season of the show. — Smuckola(talk) 08:49, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@DaltonCastle and Oak Island Kid: Okay I finished watching the whole series to date. As for me personally, this is the only example I could find of a meaningful original spoken quotation: S02E01 0:07:51 Regarding the authentication of this coin, he made the figurative observation, "Do you remember, Charles, the statement of 'a 1000 piece puzzle with 400 pieces missing'? Now there's only 399.". That illustrates their perspective on the multidisciplinary difficulty of the job, and the extreme extent of their actual efforts and dedication. That is if it's given in the context of a brief summary of the nature of their efforts to date—just to scan, dive, and dredge a swamp in one corner of the island, just to find a single coin, and to consider this to be a milestone victory. Then they also cite two other famous quotes illustratively such as S02E06 0:37:00 citing Edison's quote about the value of failure, about finding countless ways to fail and then a similar later quote; so citing other people is not compelling. Actually, the text I've written here may be somewhat usable, if I was more familiar with the article's content. As for what exactly happened on the show that may be notably original, I dunno, I guess the life and legacy of Dan Blankenship would be intertwined with the long history of the island. He certainly does retell and relive it in the show to a degree that's worth a brief mention or update. I hope time will tell more! — Smuckola(talk) 10:11, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Dont mean to get off topic but the new episodes get pretty cool ha! But thank you for the clarification. DaltonCastle (talk) 19:26, 11 November 2015 (UTC)

@Smuckola and DaltonCastle: do my links to the episodes on The Curse of Oak Island#Episodes help? My biggest concern is that they might violate some Wikipedia law and I don't know if they do or not, but I found Wikipedia:External links and personally see nothing there that would say they shouldn't exist. WP:ELYES #1 actually suggests they should be there as they are the official links to the shows. Is that okay or should I remove them? Oak Island Kid (talk) 05:37, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

I think they are fine present there. DaltonCastle (talk) 23:24, 12 November 2015 (UTC)

@Smuckola and DaltonCastle: Dear Kid. First, thanks for being so conscientious as to locate and review the policy, and to ask for feedback when it's not perfectly clear. When I saw you add those links, I checked the same thing because on Wikipedia, adding external links within an article body is usually done wrong. Kinda like pull quotes. I think this is the rare case where it's right, lol. It's so weird, I don't wanna believe it, but yeah—the material literally is the subject matter itself (not even just relevant or ancillary to), yet the video content cannot possibly be included here, but it doesn't link to copyright infringement (good guy history channel). — Smuckola(talk) 10:03, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Comment

'...currently the subject of...' should be changed to '...the subject of a (months) 2015...' now (rather than waiting for someone putting a dates query 'some time hence'). Jackiespeel (talk) 10:29, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Jjsanchis

@Jjsanchis: You have done amazing work on the article and I wanted to recognize that here for everyone. That research looks rather tough and extensive. Thank you very much and I am happy to help if I can, and I did by copy editing and formatting. I would like to call your attention to the {{clarify}} tag that I had to put on one indecipherable paragraph in this section. I read it a dozen times and I don't know what it means. Please rewrite that carefully with punctuation and grammar. Thank you very much and keep it up. Let me know if I can help. — Smuckola(talk) 10:37, 24 November 2015 (UTC)

@Smuckola: thank you! it does takes a lot of time finding citations online. I'll try to finish the stone work when i have more time on the weekend, and work on a few more areas of interest. appreciate the review! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Jjsanchis (talk • contribs) 08:53, 25 November 2015 UTC)

The reference for naming the show is incorrect

The show takes its name from the local legend that Canadian folklorist Helen Creighton included in her book Folklore of Lunenburg County, Nova Scotia about how seven people must die before the treasure will be found.

There is no such mention in this publication of a curse associated with Oak Island.

In Chapter I, in the first paragraph, Oak Island is mentioned in passing, and then never again.

"From Yarmouth to Cape North, there is a succession of bay and inlets, but none of these could have been more tempting to a pirate than Mahone Bay with its 365 islands. one for every day of the year. Oak Island is the best known; it has attracted international interest and many thousands of dollars have been spent in excavations over a long period of years. The mystery of the man-made supports that were found under the ground has never been solved, but their presence stimulates the general belief in the reality of the buried treasure."

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