Talk:John Michael Greer

notability and self promotion

This article seems to be designed solely as self promotion by the subject. First, the editor who created this page stopped adding anything to Wikipedia six years ago - soon after this page was created - and two other articles started by this editor were deleted. Second, there are no sources except two anonymous websites, and another which no longer exists. Third, it has a long bibliography but no page numbers, so it amounts to a list of books about druidism rather than Mr. Greer, and thus a bibliography which is unconnected to the subject. Fourth, the article gives a list of the Greer's podcasts and websites. Finally, people do not get Wikipedia articles just because they have a blog, or give themselves non-titles like "cultural critic" or "historian of ideas." I would propose the article for deletion but I suspect Mr. Greer himself, or persons connected to this celebrity wannabe, would swoop down to object.Catherinejarvis (talk) 21:51, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

I don't think Greer cares to be a celebrity, whatever that means. I recognize he is one of the notable voices in the "peak oil" movement (as the template shows), and deserves a basic neutral bio for that alone. In actual content, I agree the current bio is just promotion and the links and books ought to be severely pruned, but I'll leave that to people who like to cut things, and have clearer ideas than me for what belongs in proper bios. Tom Ruen (talk) 22:57, 21 October 2013 (UTC)

A cursory check seems to indicate that the books in the list with blue-linked ISBNs are authored or edited by John M. Greer, so he is at least a fairly prolific writer. {The poster formerly known as 87.81.230.195} 212.95.237.92 (talk) 19:05, 23 January 2015 (UTC)

Second deletion effort

This article has already been deleted once, based on the subject's lack of notability, but has apparently been restored as if the reasons for deletion did not exist. This article is simply self promotion, a puff piece in which Greer uses his own sources as citations. The Druid website, for example, showing him a grand master or grand wizard or whatever title he gives himself. The use of meaningless words like "cultural critic and "historian of ideas." Everyone on Earth could call themselves a cultural critic but they do not get Wikipedia pages.Catherinejarvis (talk) 21:42, 2 January 2016 (UTC)