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Chase Koch

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There are no sources. Its not notable. And it was created by a single-purpose user, Factorhk, who has been active entirely to vandalize Koch-related articles with POV changes. Therefore I am concerned that the creation of this article serves as a means for future vandalism. DaltonCastle (talk) 22:22, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

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• Delete as nothing at all for solid independent notability. SwisterTwister talk 23:00, 31 March 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:34, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• Keep I'm sorry, but a look at the "news" links coverage shows that he does meet GNG, independent of the traffic accident incident. Also, in reading the above statement "nothing at all for solid independent notability" so far from the case that I have to ask: did you actually click on the "news" link directly above and look? I am sympathetic to the POV magnet concern, and of course we need to keep BLP concerns in mind, but he does seem to be an independently notable member of the Koch business family. Editorial issues, vandalism and such can be met through normal editing, warnings, AIV, etc. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:39, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Kansas-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:43, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Conservatism-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 00:46, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Ok, so one source. That still doesn't address notability. DaltonCastle (talk) 00:48, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• Delete We have an article on a man who back when he was 16 killed someone who was crossing the street, that at the time only got noted in the local press. He is now the owner of a subsidiary company of his father's, but we have no evidence that anyone takes notice of him for such. No indepedent notability, and this looks like it was written as an attack page, especially since the fact he was only 16 when the accident occured was left out. Such being done by a new, inexperienced driver is perceived much differently than if he had killed someone when he was in his twenties. The article stinks of an attack page.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:12, 1 April 2016 (UTC)
• Comment We have one source that is a local paper about the vehicular homicide, that is not enough to establish notability, and may only mention him because his father is notable. The other is an article on his father, that as far as I can tell only mentions he is the son of his father. None of the sources even establish the claim he is head of a subsidiary of Koch Industries.John Pack Lambert (talk) 03:15, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• Nonsense. The Fortune magazine article expressly says he is being groomed for that, and then there are at least three stories in the Wichita Business Journal including this and this. All easily discoverable at the news link above. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 10:59, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

• Delete as BLP1E. SSTflyer 00:04, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

*Keep Chase Koch, who has been appointed to run a business with billions of dollars in annual revenue by his father, and is also heir (with his sister) to a $50 billion fortune, is clearly a notable figure. Koch Fertiliser is a multi-billion dollar business with operations across the United States. Chase Koch clearly meets the general notability guideline--Plainswin (talk) 16:56, 8 April 2016 (UTC)

• Delete - Per WP:BLP1E. Subject lacks notability outside of one incident that took place when he was 16 years old. Being the president of a subsidiary is not in itself notable. Meatsgains (talk) 00:15, 9 April 2016 (UTC)
• WP:BLAR to Koch_Industries#Koch_Ag_.26_Energy_Solutions. Koch Fertilizer is a subsidiary of a subsidiary. At this stage of Chase's career he is notable only as a CEO of a big company. No doubt his noteworthiness will increase with time. – S. Rich (talk) 17:31, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Vipinhari || talk 18:48, 9 April 2016 (UTC)

• Delete per WP:BLP1E. Subjects fails notability guidelines per WP:BIO and WP:42.--Ddcm8991 (talk) 19:51, 12 April 2016 (UTC)
• Keep I don't know where all the "1 event" stuff is coming from, I just clicked on the news link and found dozens of articles suitable to show passage of WP:GNG.--Paul McDonald (talk) 12:58, 15 April 2016 (UTC)

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein  21:07, 17 April 2016 (UTC)

• Keep Clearly notable, heir to a $43 billion fortune, a serious corporate executive in his own right, and being groomed as the CEO of the second largest private corporation in the United States.