User talk:Mojo Hand

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A barnstar for you!

	The Teamwork Barnstar
	Hey, I simply wanted to say thanks for taking care of all the pages I tag and I certainly notice and appreciate it. Cheers! SwisterTwister talk 02:21, 15 January 2016 (UTC)

Dean en jamie olivier

It wasn't nonsense; it was written in Afrikaans, Unless it had changed since I tagged it? Adam9007 (talk) 15:17, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Ah - I didn't recognize the Afrikaans. Definitely still speedy deletable, but you are right that A3 was more accurate (based on the translation). Cheers.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:26, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

@Mojo Hand: My first thought was nonsense too, but it occurred to me to check if it was actually just in another language, and it was. Adam9007 (talk) 16:10, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Schmidt toons

I see you are the admin that deleted Toondisney.com that user has created a similar article Schmidt toons. He also appears to be a vandalism only account. He has repeatedly removed ref from Jetix & Disney related articles. I have reported him for that. If you don't mind reviewing more stuff. Krj373^{*(talk), *(contrib)} 16:54, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

I think you are right - all edits look like vandalism or possibly self-promotion. I deleted the article, and another admin already blocked him. Thanks for pinging me.--Mojo Hand (talk) 17:03, 25 January 2016 (UTC)

Notes that explain Harvard's use of Latin are somehow wrong

What would posses someone to go from article to article and disparage each one, often inaccurately, without ever making a single attempt to improve any of the articles? Abel (talk) 15:52, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

I'm no fan of this practice either; I have given some advice to the editor.--Mojo Hand (talk) 20:41, 27 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for that, I hope the advice is put to good use. Abel (talk) 01:15, 28 January 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for supporting my RfA

	Brianhe RfA Appreciation award
	Thank you for participating at my RfA. Your support was very much appreciated even if I did get a bit scorched. Brianhe (talk) 07:52, 6 February 2016 (UTC)

Message about edits being undone

When I got on Wikipedia today I saw the follow message at the top of the page. I've not seen it before and I don't know what contributions it's talking about, as I've never edited a Wikipedia page before. "Hello, I'm Mojo Hand. I wanted to let you know that I undid one or more of your recent contributions to Sport in Greece because it did not appear constructive. If you would like to experiment, please use the sandbox. If you think I made a mistake, or if you have any questions, you can leave me a message on my talk page. Thanks! Mojo Hand (talk) 02:49, 11 March 2014 (UTC)" 64.126.174.241 (talk) 03:48, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

The message is from 2014, and somebody else must have used this IP address back then. I will remove the old note. You might want to consider creating an account to avoid wrong messages and have greater privacy.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:14, 23 February 2016 (UTC)

Cubebrush page

Why was our company page deleted?

The content was more than sufficient and we believe this was a mistake. Please bring back the page we spent precious time creating.Bluefley00 (talk) 02:44, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello Bluefley00. The page was deleted because there was nothing to show why this particular company was significant, and the tone of the article was promotional. Please note the Wikipedia is not a web host, and articles about subjects in which you have a financial interest are strongly discouraged.--Mojo Hand (talk) 18:42, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

IP:82.2.223.50

Hello Mojo Hand, I see you have previously edited the The Daily Telegraph article. Could I please bring to your attention the activities of 82.2.223.50 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log) on the Telegraph and The Guardian pages? They are changing the political alignment without any references or sources. I have asked them to supply information, but this has been ignored and they have now reverted for a third time. This appears to be a one issue IP account and I wonder if a short block might be advisable? Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 23:43, 7 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello David J Johnson, and thanks for the note. It looks like the IP editor has received the message (or just given up for the moment). Doesn't look like any action is needed at this time, but feel free to ping me again if s/he starts up again.--Mojo Hand (talk) 02:14, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello again Mojo Hand, many thanks for your latest reversion on this IP. This is now the fourth time, within 24 hours, they have attempted to "edit", without giving any reason and ignoring requests from myself and yourself to take to Talk page. Surely this is now time for a short block? Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 16:21, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Sorry, it has been reverted again by same IP - making five reverts without reason in a day. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 16:34, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Since my comments about, there have been a further rush of edits, all without proper sources or references. There appears to be a poltical agenda here, rather than Wikipedia neutral point of view. There is a reliable source for The Daily Telegraph being a Conservative newspaper, but not for "Right Wing Conservative". My other concern is that the IP has taken no notice whatsoever of advice and warnings about edit warring and has not used the Talk page at all. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 17:09, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

I agree that the edits are problematic and apparently agenda driven. The source he provided does not support the statement. However, it doesn't rise to the level of vandalism, so I would not block him for that. Plus, I have now arguably involved myself in a content dispute. I believe the IP has broken 3rr, so you could report him for that, if you wanted.--Mojo Hand (talk) 20:32, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

Just a few minutes after your warning on the IP's Talk page this evening, they have again reverted! I have again asked them to use the Talk page for discussion, but this has had no effect in the last day. I have again reverted, but I'm close myself to the 3RR. I suggest either page protection or a block for this IP who is "editing" whilst taking no notice on Wikipedia conventions on references, neutral policy, or advice from registered editors. Regards, David J Johnson (talk) 22:53, 8 March 2016 (UTC)

He was appropriately blocked for edit warring; hopefully that drives the point home.--Mojo Hand (talk) 02:08, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for all your help. David J Johnson (talk) 23:24, 9 March 2016 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The No Spam Barnstar
	Thank you for speedily deleting the spam article InvasionR002! Erick Shepherd (talk) 15:08, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

That is very kind, and it puts a smile on my face. I should be thanking you for your persistence in dealing with that "article".--Mojo Hand (talk) 16:09, 10 March 2016 (UTC)

WarTorn Productions

Hey man, I was curious as to why you deleted our wiki page "War Torn Productions"? we were really excited that we had one with our new web series coming out that maybe our popularity might jump some more. And then we saw it got deleted.. Its all good just curious as to the reason it was deleted? We recently have looked into college to continue our carrier in filmmaking and we're just a little disappointed.. having a wiki helps our business, and we'd love the privilege of having it back. Whats your thoughts? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2604:2D80:8406:C360:1F8:3597:84:B77C (talk) 02:30, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

I can understand that it can be exciting to have a page on Wikipedia. However, Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, and the page was deleted because there was nothing to show why this particular company was significant or notable at this time. Please also note the Wikipedia is not a web host, and articles about subjects in which you have a financial interest are strongly discouraged.--Mojo Hand (talk) 04:24, 11 March 2016 (UTC)

Asking for help: article "German cuisine"

Hi, I need the advice/help of an administrator: There is one guy, Matzkalt2, who regularly makes major changes in the article German cuisine that make little or no sense (he calls this "to beef the article up" or just "clean up"). In fact, he is just a trouble maker, and I call his changes vandalism. For quite a while, he urgently wanted pictures of brands in the article which doesn't make sense since the article is about meals and dishes, not about brands or ready-to-eat/commercial products. User Grueslayer and I tried to explain things to him, but he refuses to use the talk page and prefers to alter the article only in the way he thinks it should be done. I therefore would like to ask you to set the article back to my last version and to lock it up for about two weeks in order to force this user to discuss major changes on the talk page first. A very frustrating situation for Grueslayer and me who put some effort into this article. And we are both Germans, we know exactly what should be part of this article and what not. Thanks and best --GeoTrinity (talk) 09:00, 30 March 2016 (UTC)

Hello GeoTrinity. Sorry for the slow response, but I have been offline recently. I took a look at the article and the edits by Matzkalt2, and I can understand your frustration. However, I don't think any admin action is appropriate at this time, as this is really a content issue. I applaud your attempt to open a discussion on the talk page, and I will prompt Matzkalt2 to follow your lead. I will also keep that page on my watchlist.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:49, 3 April 2016 (UTC)

Hi again, I've given up on Matzkalt2 and his changes. His tactics to make numerous smaller edits which are only partly nonsense worked. I'm still convinced that any branded products should stay out of the article since they are not part of German cuisine as such (= meals, eating habits, and so on) but, well, I guess I'll kick this article from my watchlist now. A highly frustrated thanks to you anyway! Cheers --GeoTrinity (talk) 14:19, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

If you are feeling frustrated, then it's probably best to stay away from the article for a while. Wikipedia is supposed to be enjoyable! I've found that stepping away from an article, then coming back when things have settled down is often a good move.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:05, 6 April 2016 (UTC)

Rugby Welsh Rfc proposed deletion

Would you restore Rugby Welsh Rfc to User:Adsbond/Rugby Welsh Rfc? As the page was found to be un-suitable for the mainspace, it wasn't ready to be moved there, which makes the move by someone other than the user whose userspace in which it resided inappropriate. Though I would prefer the content be restored to User:Adsbond/Rugby Welsh Rfc, I'd also be alright with a restoration to the draft namespace. Best Regards,—Godsy^(TALK_CONT) 04:36, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

 Done. Not sure the page will ever be suitable for the mainspace, but I know there are some ongoing discussions about old userspace drafts. So, I see no harm in restoring to the prior status quo.--Mojo Hand (talk) 13:33, 14 April 2016 (UTC)

Dato Sri Mohd Najib Bin Tun Hj Abd Razak listed at Redirects for discussion

An editor has asked for a discussion to address the redirect Dato Sri Mohd Najib Bin Tun Hj Abd Razak. Since you had some involvement with the Dato Sri Mohd Najib Bin Tun Hj Abd Razak redirect, you might want to participate in the redirect discussion if you have not already done so. Alexander Iskandar (talk) 02:17, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

RL Leader deletion

Please do not delete the page RL Leaders. This page should not be speedily deleted because... I feel that if people like Selena Gomez or random companies like Sony Pictures Entertainment are allowed to have Wikipedia pages, then this company should be allowed to have a wikipedia page as well. I have spent a lot of time, over a week, researching them and finding articles about the company, their clients, their accomplishments, and finding links for the history and work of their founders that back up all of my information provided, and spent another week writing the article. I was very excited that this was my first article. If you can write the article in a better way than I could, PLEASE do create it. I feel because of their work in protecting this country and working along side the CIA, the FBI and the Dept of Defense to ensure our safety as US Citizens, it's important that they have a page and that they be recognized for their work and their history. It's a part of our country's history. Or if you can tell me how to better my article so that it's not deleted, please do so. I've offered contributions on other wikipedia pages that don't seem nearly as important to me and never had a problem....I don't work for RL Leaders so I'm not sure how this is "advertising." Thank you for your consideration.Evaki1972 (talk) 08:51, 23 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for the message. I understand your what your are saying about it sounding like a press release. I'm just wondering, every page that I look up is about the same. In fact. I based this article on dozens and dozens of articles I have already read on wikipedia. Most pages Say an overview of what the person or company is. Then says how they started out and what they have done since then, be it company or person. then a section saying that they worked on and with whom. So that is exactly how I wrote the article and I backed everything up with references, and I took out any promotional language and it still got deleted. Look at these pages, which I have chosen at random and you will see they are no different than the article I wrote. I feel as thought I'm being picked on and targeted at this point, as this was my long time spent attempt at writing about this important company and you guys deleted it: Apple, Inc., Haylee Roderick, Greenpeace, Prince (musician). Please advise.Evaki1972 (talk) 03:29, 24 April 2016 (UTC)

I understand. But I'm not sure how to say it any other way. That is exactly what they do....they take people from the entertainment industry and pair them with members of the CIA and FBI and Dept of Defense for think tanks etc, and they come up with other intelligence ideas. Intelligence gathering is exactly that. People sitting in a room and talking about ideas and coming up with theories on important issues concerning counter terrorism and national security etc. I also go on to say that it was a requirement by the 9-11 commission to form this group and I back it up with a reference. Anyway, can you think of a better way to say it? I'm putting it up on the draft space. But again, I just visited the page for GREENPEACE and their first two paragraphs also sound like a brochure, yet it has been approved as an ariticle/page.... — Preceding unsigned comment added by Evaki1972 (talk • contribs) 19:57, 25 April 2016 (UTC) I've submitted a draft for review if you'd like to offer any input! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Evaki1972/sandbox/RL_Leaders Evaki1972 (talk) 23:18, 25 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you for your note. Your feed back is kind, but still not helping me. I don't know how to say it any other way...if 3 CIA agents, met with a film Production Designer and a Director of Photography, to analyze documentaries and snuff videos from ISIS to find out who is shooting them, what kind of cameras they are using, what editing machines they are using and they track those cameras etc that is what they do, or they build battle drills for soldiers who fighting over seas by joining the Dept of Defence with film CGI people that is exactly what they do. This is all said in the article and it is not "promotional'....they simply pair govt offices with creative people to solve National Security issues. That IS what they do. It can't be said any more clear than that. I'm completely befuddled by some of the wikipedia pages that get approved and the lack of importance they represent. the comments have not been any nicer on the draft space by other people. How about in stead of just telling me what to say, you tell me how you would write the lead sentence. I'm supposed to be getting feedback, yet all I'm getting from you and others is "it sounds promotional. I'm deleting it." I have spent hours on this stuff. You're offering me a bit more than others who just flag and delete me, but still not accepting my draft. I'm pretty sure that I just give up and I will not have nice things to say about wikipedia from now on. This is really disappointing that I"ve wasted like 3 weeks of my life trying to write an important article....Evaki1972 (talk) 02:08, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Request to re-instate a deleted page

Hi there, I am writing to you in hopes that you will consider re-instating a page that's been deleted: see 17:17, 4 February 2015 Mojo Hand (talk | contribs) deleted page CounterPath Corporation (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/CounterPath Corporation)

I just started working for CounterPath Corporation and was informed that previous iterations of this post were unfortunately edited in a way that did not respect community guidelines and policies. I have since re-written a new version that is purely fact-based supported by reputable, external sources and links to other pages on Wikipedia. The intention of this new draft is to share knowledge as it relates to unified communications, softphones, VoIP, etc. in a way that isn't self-serving or suggests self-promotion. If you'd like, I'd be happy to email you a copy of the draft to ensure it aligns with community guidelines. Please let me know what steps are required of me to move this forward. Many thanks for your consideration and help with this. Ps. I'm also new to Wikipedia from a contributor side of things, so please excuse me if I'm posting this incorrectly/not signing posts correctly! Dschultz16 (talk) 20:54, 26 April 2016 (UTC)

Redundant material in uw templates

Re: "language was tested for efficacy by the WMF" – Where, when, by whom, in what context? And by what site-wide consensus discussion was it agreed to implement it in exactly this ridiculous way across an entire family of templates? WMF doesn't dictate template wording to en.WP. Short of WP:OFFICE requirements, it doesn't dictate anything at all here about content or how we arrive at it.

If people want this wording, the template should auto-sign with the date; and there should be a parameter to drop that wording which some of us don't like, and sign with full signature; and it should be documented that way, and programmed this way in a meta-template that is shared by all the uw templates. If the code is not standardized it's going to drift over time anyway, whether someone at WMF likes it a certain way or not.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  05:13, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

I agree that the WMF doesn't dictate the language of templates etc. However, I do recall extensive conversations, testing and an RFC about these templates. Obviously consensus can change and all that, but I think we should at least have a broader conversation about changes. To give some wider exposure, I will put up links to the prior RFC and testing at WT:UTM.--Mojo Hand (talk) 18:43, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, that seems like a good venue for resolving both the redundancy cleanup and the metatemplating.  — SMcCandlish ☺ ☏ ¢ ≽^ʌⱷ҅_ᴥⱷ^ʌ≼  18:53, 5 May 2016 (UTC)

Request to re-instate a deleted page

Please review, I am writing to you in hopes that you will consider re-instating a page that's been deleted: 13:53, 29 April 2016 Mojo Hand (talk | contribs) deleted page Gregg Vance (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gregg Vance) this page has been worked on for many years with many editors, the variety article mentions Gregg Vance 3 times, not only one like you said. All information on the page is news worthy, legitimate and verifiable and important in the history of the entertainment business and the performance lead the way for Caucasian actors in hip hop movies and made history breaking ground for actors. An all African american cast except one white homeboy wanna be Gregg Vance. He is apart of american cinema history and should be recognized to the world wide encyclopedia they way it was. Please don't abuse your power. This was an important addition and you deleted it and making sure that the performance wont be enjoyed, categorized for fans to see. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Please restore the page to its original condition or make adjustments. Thank you and you can always contact me direct email or post here. Thank you for your time. (greggygreg114) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggygreg114 (talk • contribs)

Hello Greggygreg114. The decision to deleted the page was made after community discussion and consensus; I don't have the authority to unilaterally undo the consensus. Also, you should note that writing articles about yourself or your friends/family is strongly discouraged - see WP:COI. I recommend working on other parts of the encyclopedia that may interest you.--Mojo Hand (talk) 13:16, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Request to re-instate a deleted page

Please review, I am writing to you in hopes that you will consider re-instating a page that's been deleted: 13:53, 29 April 2016Hand (talk | contribs) deleted page Gregg Vance (Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Gregg Vance) I am insulted by you and your false acusations that I am the actor Gregg Vance. I am not. The page was agreed too. Accepted and was up an running for years. Now out of nowhere you pull the page down for no reason. It was agreed by the editor that the article was written by variety an reputable company, it was news worthy and based on the rules for actors and guidelines it met the requirements and posted. Whats your problem? You should not be in charge or apart of the editors that make decisions. So quick to delete important information and leave the wikipedia encyclopedia missing important information. Ground breaking. monumental and recognized by the largest entertainment trade paper in the world. The first feature directed by the creator of Entourage (HBO), Doug Ellin. What industry are you in? obviously you have no knowledge about acting, the history of film or entertainment. This performance By Gregg Vance in "Phat Beach" lead to many causation actors in African American movies, (Vanilla Ice, Marky Mark, Jaime Kennedy and many others) Gregg Vance was the first to be recognized and if not the first a very important part. Along the lines of Tu Pac, Huggie Hopkins, "Juice", "Lean On me" and the film is a cult classic, still in rotation on NetFlex. Please watch the film, do your research before you delete anything of value to the readers. At this time I do not believe in WikiPedia's reporting process and posting. This is nuts, The entertainment business and acting is a very niche business. If Gregg Vance is not recognized for the performance as "Mikey Z", the first Caucasian in an all african american Hip Hop Comedy released in 500 theaters nation wide. written up in Variety, your editors dont know anything. Especially about actors in feature films and how hard it is to get these roles. And make the papers. This is either an over-site, lack of knowledge by the editors or a terrible abuse of power. And the Encyclopedia is incomplete. Please bring this p to the film department of the encyclopedia and please reconsider. thank you in advance, (greggygreg114) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Greggygreg114 (talk • contribs)

Talking crap to someone is not a good way to get them interested in helping you. If you think my decision was wrong, you are welcome to take it up at WP:DRV.--Mojo Hand (talk) 17:21, 13 May 2016 (UTC)

Deleting InstallAware

Hi. I noticed you deleted the InstallAware talk page. The IA page was contentious and I visited it because of the recent news coverage about it being deleted, and a couple of days go I left a message on the talk page with some thoughts and an offer to write a new article.

It's a shame to have that deleted instead of replied to.

IA itself is a well-known product and deserves a page. I don't think the company did themselves any favours by trying to publish their own page. Much of it read like advertising, which IMO was a silly approach. However, the last couple of edits showed notability quite well... I could write about this much more but it was all in the deleted talk page; please read it, it has all the details. Point is, I'm not affiliated with them, saw the article because of the controversy and news coverage, and offered to write a new, neutral article. What's the best move here - to just write it? The page currently says to check with the deleting editor, which is you :)

Vintagedavem (talk) 12:19, 21 May 2016 (UTC)vintagedavem

Hello Vintagedavem. FYI - I deleted the article talk page in 2013, after the last time it was re-created. User:Sphilbrick is actually the one who deleted the most recent version with your post. However, I suppose the real point is whether to write a new version of the article. As there is an active draft version going on, I would probably recommend working on that. Looks like Theg is also trying to clean up the draft.--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:08, 21 May 2016 (UTC)

Ah, apologies. I saw the talk page had been deleted but got your name from the article page, not the talk. Feel free to delete this once read :) Vintagedavem (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2016 (UTC)vintagedavem.

neelix

really nice to see someone lending me a hand you beat me to overproductions and I just listed over productions at CSD. If you take list 4 give me another list (send me a brief talk or ping me here) so we don't conflict all the time OK? (We've never technically (edit conflict)'d but so we aren't treading on each others' boots). I do genuinely believe that Neelix created these in good faith and have repeatedly said so, but now the search engine has got a bit better then these in my view hinder rather than help someone trying to search. Especially say on a handheld device with a mobile internet connection to bring up the search engine is not instant as it pretty much is for me here on a big screen with seventeen tabs and so on, so I think they hinder. That is not because I am a WP:DELETIONIST it is because I want to make the encylopaedia better. Not everyone has essentially instantaneous internet on an old but well maintained computer that if I may say so goes like shit off a shovel because I don't clutter it up with stuff and I give it a bit of routine maintenance even though it is seven years old. Boots up from power on to login in twenty seconds which is more than many smartphones do. Si Trew (talk) 14:06, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Hello Si Trew. I didn't actually conflict with you on overproductions - I was the admin who deleted it after you tagged it. I agree with you (like most of the community) on the Neelix redirects. I haven't actually tagged any of them myself, but I have deleted quite a few that were listed at CSD. I appreciate your good work and am happy to assist.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

Yeah I think I said we didn't technically (edit conflict) but I wanted to stand off because otherwise we would be treading on each other's toes. I do actually put in some thought into whether to RfD, CSD, speedily keep and so on although it seems many other editors think I just wander around with a blunderbuss firing potshots at them. Si Trew (talk) 16:19, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

I think your explanations for deletion are pretty solid. However, I am not sure how we are treading on each other's toes.--Mojo Hand (talk) 17:35, 23 May 2016 (UTC)

2016 Wikimedia Foundation Executive Director Search Community Survey

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Prague Spring

There are many sides to the issue of The Prague Spring. My note is polite. There are many things related to The Prague Spring and the events of 1989 that people you have mentioned in this very good article would probably prefer not to be aired. Please leave my note in place. Sorry I am new to this and couldn't figure out how to send you a private message Stephen Fraser-Ward. (talk) 14:28, 3 June 2016 (UTC)Stephen Fraser-Ward.Stephen Fraser-Ward. (talk) 14:26, 3 June 2016 (UTC) Stephen Fraser-Ward. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Stephen Fraser-Ward. (talk • contribs) 14:22, 3 June 2016 (UTC)