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Happy New Year, Mojo Hand![edit]

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Thanks for your support[edit]

Thanks for your support at Peachy Harrison. I regret that the 19th century name sounds implausible. However:

  • Pulliam is listed in William Hamilton Bryson’s “Virginia Law Books: essays and bibliographies, volume 239” (2000) on page 235.

and

  • David L. Pulliam, Jacob N. Brenaman and William J. Van Schreeven are referenced as reliable sources for “comprehensive analyses of Virginia Conventions” by the Constitutional scholar John J. Dinan in his Biographical Essay in “The Virginia Constitution: a reference guide, part 56.” (2006) page 231.

Sincere thanks. Wherever they are not yet existing, I am trying to add start class bios for the names of the Charts of delegates from the Virginia Conventions of 1776, 1788, 1829-1830, 1850, 1864, 1868 and 1902, at least the more notable referenced in the sources and elected to more than one office. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 18:06, 8 January 2017 (UTC)

@TheVirginiaHistorian: Glad to help. I've seen your new articles popping up, and they are a good addition to the project. Thank you. --Mojo Hand (talk) 01:47, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

Good article review?[edit]

Is there any way I could persuade you to take on the Good Article review for Virginia Conventions? The nine constitutional conventions and four revolutionary conventions are daughter articles to that main article, and the start bios I've been writing are links supporting each Chart of delegates. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 15:11, 9 January 2017 (UTC)

I actually considered this earlier. However, I don't think I can be totally impartial for a GA review, as I really want the article to be promoted.--Mojo Hand (talk) 20:56, 9 January 2017 (UTC)
It has undergone one comprehensive peer review and copy edit already from User:Mike Christie. Any referral candidates? There seems to be an administrator or two listed in the WikiProject: Virginia. TheVirginiaHistorian (talk) 09:09, 10 January 2017 (UTC)
Any experienced and impartial editor can do a good article review; it doesn't have to be an admin. I normally just wait for an article to take its turn, though I didn't realize that GAR was quite so backlogged.--Mojo Hand (talk) 19:14, 11 January 2017 (UTC)

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Request to re-instate a deleted page[edit]

Hi there,

I wish you to reconsider the deletion of the page 9.1x20 RUCM,

I read the reasons for deletion and i understand i dont have any sources to list but i have only just created this cartridge and i have only now got images and more information to add,

I am new to wikipedia and would appreciate some guidance in making my page more valid,

Thank you Kyle Gutsell — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheKagedOne (talkcontribs) 03:40, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Hello TheKagedOne: if there are no sources yet, then the subject is not ready to be on Wikipedia. Coverage in reliable third party sources is really the key for any article to be on Wikipedia. You should also be aware that Wikipedia strongly discourages editors from writing about their own companies or produces - see WP:COI. I recommend reading and editing existing articles that may interest you to get a handle on how Wikipedia works. Let me know if you have any other questions.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:47, 7 February 2017 (UTC)

Request to restore the deleted page- Happiest Minds[edit]

Hi there, I wish to restore the deletion of page, which was deleted on Feb 13th. I am new to wikipedia and was just trying to update the Happiest Minds page.I read the the reasons for deletion but the content was added with references. Kindly help me restore back the page of Happiest Minds and would appreciate some guidance in making my page more valid.42.109.222.76 (talk) 05:47, 14 February 2017 (UTC) Vidya

Hello Vidya. I performed some technical cleanup; the main article at Happiest Minds Technologies was actually deleted by both DGG and Jimfbleak because the article was unambiguously promotional. You can ask them to restore the page, but I agree with their reasoning. Please note that if you have a relationship with Happiest Minds, you should also be aware that Wikipedia strongly discourages people from writing about subjects where they have a personal or financial interest - see WP:COI. I hope that helps.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:21, 15 February 2017 (UTC)

A detail[edit]

Hi, this is ancient news, but just want to pass along a message that originated with a non-Wikipedian. The author of this article focused on the deletion of Chickenhead (song). After digging through all the details, it seems to me you might have replaced the page with a redirect to the album the song's on, rather than deleting it. Thought the feedack might be helpful. -Pete Forsyth (talk) 04:00, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Hi Peteforsyth, and thank you for the comment - I always appreciate feedback. I generally agree with redirects rather than deletion in many cases. In this case however, I thought the qualifier limited the value of the redirect. In other words, it seemed unlikely that people would search for "chickenhead (song)". Maybe I misunderstand the technical aspect of searching, but I would think the brackets undermine the value of the redirect. In retrospect, I think my bigger mistake was to remove the entry from the disambiguation page. I probably should have left a link to the album, as I see you did.--Mojo Hand (talk) 04:37, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
That's a good point. The other use case worth considering is whether external incoming links to the Wikipedia article might exist...and it's always impossible to know. I tend to assume they exist, as "redirects are cheap"...but it was a tiny stub, so there's a good chance they didn't. regardless, I think we're all good now. Thanks for the reply! -Pete Forsyth (talk) 07:44, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
I get that line of thinking—at the time you deleted it, people had to actually type "Chickenhead (song)" into the search box to get there. These days you can type "Chickenhead song" and it'll find that redirect. :-) Ed [talk] [majestic titan] 02:08, 18 February 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for the link Ed. I knew searching had improved, but I didn't know details. That's good stuff.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:58, 18 February 2017 (UTC)

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Just wondering[edit]

Cup-o-coffee-simple.svg Hello. Wiki tells me you have attempted to create a page title "Show Me The Body". I am curious if you tried to make it for the band. If so, were you prevented from creating it? I just created an account to make the page.

Thanks! Ian t6n5 (talk) 01:16, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello Ian t6n5. I'm afraid I previously deleted that page under the speedy deletion process. The problem was that there was no credible claim that the band was somehow significant. If the band hasn't received attention from reliable third party sources, then it really isn't possible to write a proper Wikipedia page about them. I hope that helps.--Mojo Hand (talk) 01:32, 13 March 2017 (UTC)

Nahid Afrin[edit]

Hello, I saw that this page is edit protected. There's quite enough material available to source this article. Would you like to help in its creation? -- Pankaj Jain Capankajsmilyo (talk · contribs · count) 17:09, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

Hello Capankajsmilyo. I see that you have also contacted admin David Gerard, which is appropriate as he is the one who salted the page. I don't think this is a page I have much interest in.--Mojo Hand (talk) 17:35, 15 March 2017 (UTC)

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Request to re-create a deleted page[edit]

hi mojo we are requesting to create a deleted page there was some misconception about the previous page.. we did some research because there is less media views, sources, or news about youth players in turkey so we did deep research which we even met up with the player.. yes in our research we found out the player was U15 youth player of tsg hoffenheim but he was released because he was an injury prone type then he moved to turkey. currently his in contract with Kasimpasa S.K U18 age group in turkey.. league10 we are football press of youth turkish clubs so we requsting for wikipedia admin mojo to approve our request.. (re-create page name: ATTO ABBAS) — Preceding unsigned comment added by League10 (talkcontribs) 12:30, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

He is still not notable per WP:NFOOTY or WP:GNG. The arguments put forward in the recent AfD still stand as far as I can see. Fenix down (talk) 12:43, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Hello League10. I think that Fenix down is correct in that nothing significant seems to have changed since Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Abbas Atto. I strongly recommend that you take a look at the guideline for association football players - WP:NFOOTBALL. The guideline shows the type of criteria that normally make a player eligible for a Wikipedia article. --Mojo Hand (talk) 13:33, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
yes i have everything i mean reliable sources and secondary source about the page the issue now is some user already created the page with some misconception and it was deleted by you so i am requesting to remove the page from deleted pages so i can create original with reliable sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by League10 (talkcontribs) 13:47, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Sorry to butt in again Mojo Hand, but to clarify, the original AfD was not concerned with the reliability of the sources, there is no one questioning that this individual is a footballer and that sources exist to confirm this. What is in question is his notability. Per WP:NFOOTY, he has not played in a league or senior international football and so is not notable because of his achievements. Furthermore, there is no evidence that sources exist that provide significant coverage of a non-routine nature to indicate GNG. Fenix down (talk) 13:54, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
fenix how sure are you he's not or hasn't i met the player don't judge so fast — Preceding unsigned comment added by League10 (talkcontribs) 14:18, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
League10 - Wikipedia generally has pretty straightforward guidelines on football players, and it's rare for youth footballers to have articles. Do you know if he's ever played in professional league?--Mojo Hand (talk) 15:22, 25 April 2017 (UTC)
Well there's nothing preventing you from recreating the page if you think he is notable, you just need to show one of three things:
  1. That he has played (i.e. made a first team appearance, not been named as an unused substitute) in any of the leagues listed here as fully professional
  2. That he has played (i.e. made a first team appearance, not been named as an unused substitute) for the Nigeria national football team, not any of the junior teams
  3. That he has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the sort noted here - i.e. not routine match reporting / squad listings.
I'm happy to review a draft created in your userspace if you think that would be helpful. Fenix down (talk) 15:44, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

yes the player does not play for his national team but he does play for kasimpasa right now and i have reliable sources — Preceding unsigned comment added by League10 (talkcontribs) 21:10, 25 April 2017 (UTC) i seen alot of wikipedia articles of footballers that does not play for their national teams and without much reliable sources but the articles still on wikipedia — Preceding unsigned comment added by League10 (talkcontribs) 21:15, 25 April 2017 (UTC) example:Felix Abuchi, Sunday Abalo, Yakubu Adamu, Muisi Ajao i know alot — Preceding unsigned comment added by League10 (talkcontribs) 21:22, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

If you have a reliable source that he has played for the first team then please present it here. If he has then he would pass NFOOTY so I or Mojo Hand would only be too pleased to restore the article. However, soccerway does not show him in the first team squad and Turkish Wikipedia lists him as playing for their under 21 team. As has been noted above, simply being attached to a club in a fully professional league is not enough. The player actually has to play in a competitive match for tjecfirstcteam to meet the minimum threshold. I don't see any evidence that this player has done this. Mojo Hand, sorry for clogging up your talk page! Fenix down (talk) 07:15, 26 April 2017 (UTC)
No apology needed. I am not very knowledgeable about the intricacies of international football and all the national clubs, so I really appreciate your input.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:22, 26 April 2017 (UTC)

Some baklava for you![edit]

Baklava - Turkish special, 80-ply.JPEG good work boss League10 (talk) 21:29, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Andrew Nicol (judge)[edit]

I just saw your revert and took a closer look at the contributions of the IP. He has added negative information with a source that does not support the contentions made, he has added a date of death for a person still alive, and twice called the subject incompetent. The IP has not made any contributions to any other articles, and appears to be stable. Would a block for repeated WP:BLP violations be appropriate? DuncanHill (talk) 16:45, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Good work in unearthing the BLP issues. The IP only occasionally edits, so I don't think a block now would do much. I am going to add the page to my watchlist - a block or pending changes protection could be options if the IP persists.--Mojo Hand (talk) 14:13, 30 April 2017 (UTC)
OK thanks, it's good to know another pair of eyes will be on it. DuncanHill (talk) 14:41, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Jordy Waelauruw[edit]

Hello Mojo Hand (talk), I am a new user on Wikipedia and had randomly requested for undeletion of few articles. Admin over there re directed me to reach out to you for further clarifications regarding this article as it was deleted after discussion and you are the concerned person who closed the discussion and deleted this article. As it was deleted because of a7 i.e. Article about a band, singer, musician, or musical ensemble, which does not credibly indicate the importance or significance of the subject, but upon my google search and by searching the name of the subject of the article on other search engines as well, i was shown with a search showing good amount of notability to the person. And beyond this, this article can be improved with good amount of references and quality to it when it will be available for Wikipedia users to edit. Conflictoreditor (talk) 15:26, 1 May 2017 (UTC)

Hello Conflictoreditor. This sounds like a worthwhile effort, and I am happy to help. I could restore the page and put it in userspace for you to work on, if you would like. However, I will say that in this instance, the page I deleted had very little content - it literally just listed the guy's name, DOB, genre, instrument and a few associated acts. As such, it might make sense just to start from scratch. Let me know your preference.--Mojo Hand (talk) 16:45, 1 May 2017 (UTC)
Thank you Mojo Hand (talk) for your reply and gesture to help out like such to a new user. As I am new to Wikipedia, I cannot figure what userspace is, though I tried reading from the link generated from your mention of the word userspace. Is it a talk page or something else ? I know what drafts really mean. Beyond this, I think that restoring the article and working on it will be more helpful for me and other Wikipedia users as I had not worked on any article till now.. Conflictoreditor (talk) 11:08, 2 May 2017 (UTC)
Userspace is much like draft space - it's a place to incubate and work on articles without the pressure and rules of the live encyclopedia. I think it's a good place to review an article like this and see if you really want to develop it. So, I have restored the page to User:Conflictoreditor/sandbox - you can see it there and work on it if you want. If you decide that you don't want to work on it, you can just tag the page with {{Db-userreq}}, and it will be deleted. Let me know if you need help.--Mojo Hand (talk) 01:33, 3 May 2017 (UTC)

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