Talk:Eels (band)

Why should the title be "eels" (with a lower case 'e') and not "Eels"?

Yeah, why? I'm changing it back. (p.s. please sign your edits.) --Gika 07:51, 11 September 2005 (UTC)

"Eels" was spelled "eels" for the first two albums and thus many fans refer to them as such. On a related note, E was never known as "Mr. E" during his solo career nor has he ever been officially called this, so putting this informal nickname on par with his official moniker "E" would be confusing. It would be like calling Madonna "Ms. Madonna" or Dido "Ms. Dido." Yes, on stage he is often ironically introduced as "Mr. E" and there's a song with that in the title, but "E" is his official moniker for both his solo career and for Eels. Calbaer 18:07, 1 June 2006 (UTC)

Blues?

Despite the album title, there's no discernable blues on any of the Eels albums that I've heard. There's a specific harmonic progression central to pretty much all blues -- a I / V / IV pattern -- and other typical features that aren't featured in the Eels' music. I'd like to remove that from the genre box. Scott.wheeler 16:46, 1 September 2006 (UTC)

I'm updating this since there have been no objections. Scott.wheeler 11:38, 7 September 2006 (UTC)

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposal. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.

The result of the debate was PAGE MOVED TO Eels (band), per discussion below. -GTBacchus^(talk) 23:45, 16 September 2006 (UTC)

Requested move

EELS (band) → Eels – Really a move back to where it used to be. No reason for page having been moved. Why? Why would one choose this capitalization? This was totally arbitrary, no consensus, discussion, or conventions cited. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:15, 8 September 2006 (UTC)

Survey

Add "* Support" or "* Oppose" followed by an optional one-sentence explanation, then sign your opinion with ~~~~

• Support. "Eels", as shown on the disambiguation page, refers only to the band. Gika 00:11, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 02:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)
• Oppose. The band article should be renamed as Eels (band). Eels should redirect to the disambiguation page as is general practice. older ≠ wiser 14:53, 10 September 2006 (UTC)
• Move to Eels (band) - Aquilina 18:08, 15 September 2006 (UTC)

Discussion

Add any additional comments.— Preceding unsigned comment added by Koavf (talk • contribs) at 20:15, September 8, 2006 (UTC)

Ahem. Let me just say, first off, these "RM" efforts would be better spent on a request for the domain "Eels (band)". Now, since you've made this a case of "EELS (band)" over "Eels", I'll explain. The title "Eels" could easily refer to the species and several other uses. Analogy: Heroes redirects to Hero (disambiguation) as the title could be simply the plural for Hero or refer to, say, the new TV show. I've been disambiguating for hours and let me tell you, "eels" could refer to a lot of stuff, as could the all capitalized version. Thus, I cause the only remaining domain rather than doing the whole RM thing. (no offense.) Now, if you'll forgive me, the following might seem a bit rude.

It was messed up enough that this article—whose title should, without question, end with "(band)". (OVERCAPPED or lowercase)—had the domain "Eels". You people actually defending- no...insisting on it? WTF? Bottomline: plurals should, in general, redirect to the main article's title. Considering that, a link to the disambiguation page is pretty generous. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 02:54, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

But the disambiguation page lists only ONE disambiguation for the plural eel, which is the band. How can you say it refers to a lot of stuff? And anyway, wasn't the "for other uses, see..." on the top of the page enough? Gika 07:59, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

I won't debate how many uses there are. At best, it still comes down to "Eel" and this article. Eel obviously came first and "eels" has been the accepted plural. Just because an encyclopedia article could replace a redirect doesn't mean it should. And no, the dab stuff on top is not okay. It should be avoided. The majority of people who link to or type in "eels" aren't looking for Mr. E and his band, okay? At best, a new disambiguation page would have to be made out of the "eels" domain and that's pointlessly redundant. The simple fact is, sometimes the "good" titles are tied up with other purposes. I disambiguated Deadpool (comics) from Deadpool a few days ago because the term "dead pool"—with or eithout spaces—predates the fictional character.

Now, he's my advice: change te requsted title to "Eels (band)". It just isn't logical for this article to have such an ambiguous title. And hey, if it makes you feel any better, it took a lot of practice—transliteration: mistakes—to understand, respect and generally get good at this who disambiguation thing. I was like you guys. I held up the disambiguation of Thor (comics) to Thor (Marvel Comics). I'm also sorry for not explaining my actions more clearly and leaving the article with an undesired title. Good luck with your move request. I hope you'll come around soon. ACS (Wikipedian); Talk to the Ace. See what I've edited. 09:34, 9 September 2006 (UTC)

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on this talk page. No further edits should be made to this section.