User talk:C.Fred

Another sock

• Kosikapaadu (talk · contribs)

Since you blocked Morolnamee (talk · contribs), but another admin may get to it in a minute or so... 185.188.6.168 (talk) 03:34, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Also Samhaari (talk · contribs) may be them too, per this edit summary. Although the account has no current edits, the account was just created. 185.188.6.168 (talk) 03:37, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Agust D language link

Hi, I am not within the user rights to link and article like Agust D to other languages, but I noticed that you are, so if you would be so kind as to link the article with ko:슈가 (가수) that would be wonderful. Thanks. Abdotorg (talk) 15:26, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

@Abdotorg: There was already a data page for AgustD, so I had to unlink Agust D from that to link it to the data page for Suga. Done now; you may need to purge the article to see the changes. —C.Fred (talk) 18:07, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Ah, thank you very much! I just checked and all seems well. Abdotorg (talk) 18:26, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Still

Still think you're example is not violence against women. You say violence against women is the type of violence that occurs to maintain the male dominance, regardless of the sex of the victim. I say the victim must be a woman. Maybe you're mixing violence against women with gender violence. Blanca Lap (talk) 19:57, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Or maybe I'm wrong and violence against children affects adults. Blanca Lap (talk) 19:59, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Accounts

Could you block チン・コ (talk · contribs), who is the same user as ウン・コ (talk · contribs)? Thank you. 14.207.86.108 (talk) 00:56, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

 Done —C.Fred (talk) 00:58, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Page submission

Hi,

I'd like to submit a page to be posted to a topic that doesn;t have a page yet. It says someone has tried to submit a page for that name in the past, but you deleted it. Since I'm not sure of what the content of the previous page was I'm reaching out to you to clear things out. The page I want to create is called SlickPie. I already have the content ready. How can I proceed from here? Thank you.

~~WilliamAnderr May 4 2017~~ — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamAnderr (talk • contribs) 02:31, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

@WilliamAnderr: What has the company done in the past year to become significant or important? —C.Fred (talk) 02:38, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Honestly, a lot. The company's app has won awards, got public recognitions, got media coverage by major industry outlets, etc. I strongly believe that you'd have no problems in finding the company to be relevant now. May I go ahead and submit the page? You will clearly see everything that I mentioned here (with the respective sources, of course). Thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamAnderr (talk • contribs) 18:14, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Forgot to tag you @C.Fred — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamAnderr (talk • contribs) 22:44, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

@WilliamAnderr: Or, hedge your bets and put it in draft space (Draft:SlickPie). If it's up to par, I'll be glad to move it to mainspace.

BTW, you don't have to tag me on my own talk page: users get notices automatically if there are changes to their talk pages. —C.Fred (talk) 23:00, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Oh, I see, thanks for the tip then. Regarding the draft page, that's a great idea, thank you for letting me know. I've just created it, I hope it's up to the task! Cheers — Preceding unsigned comment added by WilliamAnderr (talk • contribs) 23:10, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Hi Fred, once you have the time, please let me know if any changes are needed on the draft page. I'll make sure to correct them right away. Thanks again. WilliamAnderr (talk) 23:53, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Sock

PROMBOTI (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log)
Clear WP:DUCK of User:Nsmutte. —JJBers 03:37, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

@JJBers: Yeah, I thought the edits felt familiar. Blocked. —C.Fred (talk) 03:38, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks. —JJBers 03:42, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

{From my post at AIV which will be archived in a few moments) So Nsmutte's latest tack is to create two accounts one with the variation on Bonadea's user name (in this case Bonadcea (talk · contribs) who is already blocked) and the other entirely different name. Theey then hit ANI or AN one after the other. That way editors (myself included) will revert the second edit but may miss the first. You might already have caught on to this but I thought I'd mention it in case you hadn't. Thanks to you both in dealing with these. MarnetteD|Talk 03:44, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

We have two more socks. Kitesss and SARAKULU, one managed to have his edit up for nearly 20 mintues. —JJBers 04:57, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Deletion of Jim Dickens

May 5th 2017, I am confused why the Jim Dickens page was deleted. He is a high ranking executive a large corporation. Please explain Packersfreak10101010101 (talk) 04:39, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

@Packersfreak10101010101: The article made so many severe WP:BLP violations that it would have needed gutted. Frankly, the claims about Dickens were so preposterous that deleting it right away as a hoax is what made the most sense. —C.Fred (talk) 04:44, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

A barnstar for you!

	The Original Barnstar
	Thank you Fred. Danny Star (talk) 19:50, 6 May 2017 (UTC)

Posting Technical Information

Hi... I'm retired from the U.S. Forest Service and using my National Scenic Trail experience as the national Continental Divide Trail Program Manager, I have developed a National Scenic Trail Planning Handbook. The material that is currently found for the Continental Divide Trail page promotes use and organizations that are related to this National Trail, but doesn't provide information about how National Scenic Trails are to be planned and managed as related to the requirements of the National Trails System Act. Is there an appropriate place to post on Wikipedia a technical paper? Instead of a web-link, could it be posted as a reference? Is there a Wikipedia posting review board where I should send this type of question? I appreciate the help! Thank you, Greg Warren

P.S. For reference, here's is the link that you or someone deleted from the CDT page: http://nstrail.org/management/nst_planning_handbook.pdfNSTrail (talk) 01:54, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@NSTrail: No, there is not. Wikipedia is not a repository for original research, and any handbook you developed would be original research. Because of your experience, it's possible that the handbook—since it's been published elsewhere—could be useful as a reference. You might want to ask at the Reliable source noticeboard about that. —C.Fred (talk) 01:58, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

OK, I believe that I understand, especially since the ideas that I present in the National Scenic Trail Planning Handbook can't be edited by others. As time permits, I'll try to provide a few edits to the Continental Divide Trail page that add value and are reliable and verifiable. Thanks again — Preceding unsigned comment added by NSTrail (talk • contribs) 02:14, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Hamish Blakely Deleted Article

Dear C.Fred,

On the welcome message I received, would it be possible to remove the sections expressing the deletion of my proposed article? That is, all the templates and text pertaining to my speedy deletion. Apologies if I am not following the appropriate protocol but I cannot think of an alternative way I should send this message.

I would still like to contribute in the future and would be very grateful if this speedy deletion content could be removed.

Many thanks, Kind regards, Goldentundra 08/05/2017 (Goldentundra49 (talk) 09:07, 8 May 2017 (UTC))

Apologies to C.Fred for sticking my nose in, but I've gone ahead and deleted the text in question. Exemplo347 (talk) 09:30, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

Section of welcome message

Dear C.Fred,

Exemplo347 kindly removed some deletion alerts for which I am very grateful.

Having fully acknowledged the substantial lapse in judgement in my submitting of autobiographical material, I would like to continue with a clean slate if at all possible and acceptable to you.

Further to this, may I ask for the removal of your following text on my user/talk page?: "I noticed that one of the first articles you created or edited appears to be an article about yourself. Creating an autobiography is a common mistake made by new Wikipedians—as this is an encyclopedia, we wouldn't expect to have an article about every contributor. Your user page, however, is a great place to write about yourself, making sure to stay within user page guidelines. Just click your user name at the top of the screen when you are logged in, and edit it normally.

The page you created about yourself may well be deleted from the encyclopedia. If it is deleted and you wish to retrieve its contents, don't hesitate to ask anyone from this list and they will copy it to your user page. If your contributions to an existing article about yourself are undone and you wish to add to it, please propose the changes on its talk page.

Here are some pages that you might find helpful:"

Obviously and justifiably, this does cause some embarrassment and I would like to continue considering future articles better educated and blemish free.

Thank you for your assistance. Goldentundra49 (talk) 10:30, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@C.Fred this question also asked on U:Athaenera's talk; replied there. — O Fortuna ^{semper crescis, aut decrescis} 10:53, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

User:Bonadeia block log

Hi there. This is just an idea, but I wonder if you should oversight your first block summary on Bonadeia (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log), to remove the reference to Bonadea (talk · contribs)? The LTA harassing troll keeps spewing links to that block log, crafted to only show your block and not the revised block[1], which obviously invites erroneous blocks of our constructive user. I doubt it will actually stop the harassment campaign, but it might de-fang it just a little. Your mistake was clearly innocent, but the spamming of the link is clearly defamatory which should make the oversight reasonable. Feel free to revdel this message if you have any WP:BEANS concerns, or similar. Murph9000 (talk) 19:41, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

@Murph9000: I have boldly done it, since it was my own message. It's more revdeled than oversighted, but it still makes it less abusable. —C.Fred (talk) 19:52, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

C.F & @Murph9000: Appreciated :-) My new tagline is "There is no I in Bonadea". --bonadea contributions talk 19:57, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

I have unreviewed a page you curated

Hi, I'm Robert McClenon. I wanted to let you know that I saw the page you reviewed, Strategic making process, and have un-reviewed it again. If you have any questions, please ask them on my talk page. Thank you.

Robert McClenon (talk) 02:31, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

The article and the corresponding draft were full of copyvio. Do to the amount of copyvio of online sources, it might be best to just G12 them. — JJMC89 (T·C) 03:45, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

@Robert McClenon and JJMC89: There were a flurry of Strategic ______ pages created yesterday: Strategic entrepreneurship, Strategic manager, Strategic making process, plus an earlier page titled Ibm strategic management. In the last case, MayteOquendo (talk · contribs) admitted he created the page for a class assignment. I get the feeling we have an instructor who told students to create a Wikipedia article but didn't bother to teach them how to properly do it? —C.Fred (talk) 14:05, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Diane Kruger's allegedly ADHD

I could translate this clip, aired on public basque broadcast EITB with the authorization of Kruger herself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtQVvVbaQ_c

I could do this this weekend, if necessary. I could also try to translate the french interview, if it is preferable. But I think that from the one that I just cited, the IP was showing a bit of bad faith by "not understanding" what it said. It's pretty straightforward from the first seconds. I don't believe we should censor information because everybody's too lazy to translate something that is obvious. WP policies are for verification purpose, not to abuse of people's time and/or censor information published in other languages, which is why I told him/her to "be patient" instead of whining. Brritna456 (talk) 18:13, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

FYI: The source has to be verifiable (WP:V) or it has to stay out (WP:BLPREMOVE). WP:BLP says clearly, that the burden of evidence rests with the editor who adds or restores material. Therefore, dont' hide yourself behind sources from foreign-languages (WP:NOENG) and only dare to come back again with at least two (WP:BLPSOURCE) reliable sources - preferably written in english - if they support the quite unlikely claim. Keep in mind that we have to censor any copyvio. --46.125.249.91 (talk) 08:35, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

I don't hide myself behind foreign language sources; Kruger's career is simply mostly in non-english films, which is why some of her interviews are not written in English. Remember to assume good faith. Brritna456 (talk) 09:04, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Don't forget to remember to assume good faith too. By the way, it was you who spoke from "bad faith" further up. --46.125.249.91 (talk) 09:53, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

• *sigh* This is why I took the matter to BLPN, to eliminate this bickering. @Brritna456: Just because it stood for five years doesn't mean it isn't a valid BLP concern—and it is in line with policy to remove the material while it's under dispute. @46.125.249.91:: We won't exclude material only because the source is non-English, although sometimes some extra work is needed to translate a passage. It is a BLP issue, but don't expect a change overnight on material that's sat untested for five years. Also, copyright doesn't invalidate a concern, although it may mean that the citation only lists the original program name, the original quote, and the translation of the quote instead of providing a link to a video. Sources don't have to be online. —C.Fred (talk) 14:16, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

I think you misread what I said. I've never argued that it wasn't a BLP issue because it stood for five years. Please read more carefully. I said that the french interview was from a 5 years-old discussion. This other source was in Spanish. If I can't provide a youtube link, then I'll just cite the source without the link, per what you said above, and translate it. Brritna456 (talk) 19:19, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@Brritna456: My point was this had come up at Talk:Diane Kruger before about five years ago. —C.Fred (talk) 19:20, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Ok. I will try to translate the sources as soon as possible, without providing a copyvio. I'll look for the rules about non-Internet source. Brritna456 (talk) 19:24, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Alien: Covenant plot section

Every film article I've seen has refrained from releasing any sort of plot details until a worldwide release, or a US release at the very least. I do not see why Alien: Covenant has to be different. Renamerguy (talk) 20:25, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

Reply at your talk page. —C.Fred (talk) 20:25, 9 May 2017 (UTC)

The Common Law Origins of the Infield Fly Rule

Hi C.Fred. Thanks for taking a look at this new article. I have just now started it, and I know it is deficient, but it will be built-up quickly in the next few days both to demonstrate the subject's notability and to show its place in American legal literature. Please check back in a few days and don't delete. Thanks. CommonPleas 03:57, 10 May 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by CommonPleas (talk • contribs)

KPS Capital Partners

Hi C. Fred. I received a notification that you initiated a speedy deletion of the entry for KPS Capital Partners. Is this still on or has this action be recalled? Ekem (talk) 12:00, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

@Ekem: I tagged without reading the full history. KPSCapitalPartnersLP, a SPA, had hijacked the article with promotional content straight from the website. I revdel'ed the offending versions and returned the article to the status quo. Sorry for disturbing you. —C.Fred (talk) 14:19, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

I understand. No problem.Ekem (talk) 12:22, 11 May 2017 (UTC)

Mike Plummer

GGLD is obviously biased and is actively sabotaging his own argument. I'll attempt to make one here.

Wikipedia keeps pages for individuals in national and sub-national legislatures. England does not have "sub-national legislatures"; many proposals such as Devolved English parliament discuss attempts to create one.

One reason it is useful to create pages for members of sub-national legislatures is that it allows politicians to become notable before running for national legislatures. Outside of that general rule, I don't see a strong argument for many pages like John Cunningham (Australian politician) to exist.

I feel like there needs to be a well-defined policy on handling sub-national politicians in England that allows for this use case, but due to the current election cycle, it's impossible to do at this time.

However, as it stands, without a single reference covering his election to a local council, or any contemporaneous news coverage of his actions while a member of the council (apart from Parliamentary campaigns), the page must be deleted. Very specifically, I see no proof that the phrase "Newtown ward councillor" on the LibDem bio refers to an elected government position, and not a position in the Liberal Democrat political party. Power~enwiki (talk) 21:46, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Hey there

I noticed you left a message on my talk page, so I was wondering if you would help resolve a situation. On here there was a talk https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:American_English#Inland_North about the inland north section being fine as is. That there was no need to tag it. Two others agree with this. And after waiting for 8 days, I decided to remove the tag. LakeKayak is now accusing me of causing and edit war over this, when it was 3 against 1 towards the view that the Inland north section was fine. Can you please help out? I feel like I should be able to remove the tag, considering it was debated with 4 users and a period of time passed (8 days) before deciding to edit. Zero077 (talk) 02:19, 12 May 2017 (UTC)