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Rename
This article should probably be renamed, since this isn't a list of Super Bowl champions, it's a list of Super Bowls. By extension, I suppose that includes a list of Super Bowl champions, but the section below the chronological list is primarily sorted by the number of appearances each team has made in the Super Bowl, not the number of times they've won it. – PeeJay 20:58, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- I see what you are saying, but am not completely convinced. The article is predominantly a list of the Super Bowl winners, but provides additional related information like who they played, where the Super Bowl was held, etc. On balance I would probably keep the current title, but I am not super militant on the point. Do you have an alternative suggested title that you feel would be better? --Legis (talk - contribs) 22:46, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- List of Super Bowls would suit me just fine. – PeeJay 23:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- The current "champions" title may have been relevant when this list page was first created more than ten years ago, but it has evolved to the point (including the addition of the "Super Bowl appearances by team" section) where both the List of Super Bowls and List of Super Bowl games now redirect here. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Exactly my point, except I don't think a redirect is sufficient. – PeeJay 10:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- No worries. I will post a link on relevant WikiProject page in relation to the suggestion and we'll see if we can generate consensus on the proposed move / rename. --Legis (talk - contribs) 13:39, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Exactly my point, except I don't think a redirect is sufficient. – PeeJay 10:20, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- The current "champions" title may have been relevant when this list page was first created more than ten years ago, but it has evolved to the point (including the addition of the "Super Bowl appearances by team" section) where both the List of Super Bowls and List of Super Bowl games now redirect here. Zzyzx11 (talk) 07:14, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- List of Super Bowls would suit me just fine. – PeeJay 23:01, 10 November 2015 (UTC)
- Comment List of World Series champions, List of NBA champions, List of Stanley Cup champions, and List of MLS Cup finals seem similar/identical. Perhaps those should be included in the discussion. Unrelated, there also seem to be potential of mutual classfication ala Category:North American Professional Sports Championships. UW Dawgs (talk) 16:16, 11 November 2015 (UTC)
- Yeah, that is one of the reasons I oppose renaming: it would be inconsistent with all the other championship articles. Plus, the core and main point of these articles are a list of champions, and it is what most people are looking for when they come to the articles. The articles also show who each champion beat and other information, but does so as supplementary information that gives context to those championships and does not change that the core of the articles are lists of champions. —Lowellian (reply) 17:53, 11 September 2016 (UTC)
Reverted recent addition of "winners that failed to make the playoffs the following season" section
I reverted the recent addition of the "winners that failed to make the playoffs the following season" section, and I just thought I'd leave a note here explaining why: because it is a long trivia list that is bloating an already long page. Unlike the other sections around it, namely "Teams with no Super Bowl appearances", "Teams with Super Bowl appearances but no victories", "Teams with long Super Bowl droughts", and "Super Bowl rematches", all of which are lists that are more relevant to this page in that they are each lists directly involving Super Bowl appearances, this particular list of "winners that failed to make the playoffs the following season" is about ensuing playoff fates the following season instead of Super Bowl appearances directly. If this list were to stay, then there are all sorts of other minutiae about ensuing fates of Super Bowl teams that could be added. We have to draw the line somewhere to avoid an enormous page filled with trivia, and I don't think think this meets the standard of relevance set by the other sections around it. —Lowellian (reply) 04:13, 25 October 2016 (UTC)
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One image has a caption of "The Jets' victory over the Colts in Super Bowl III was the team's last championship appearance." Please expand it to ..."the former team's..." because "the team" could refer to the Jets or the Colts, so "former" distinguishes from "latter." 208.95.51.115 (talk) 14:18, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- Not done; it's obvious that the Jets are meant ("The Jet's victory...").--Anaxagoras13 (talk) 17:52, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
- It can be interpreted to mean "the team's" last appearance in the championship game, and that's ambiguous. What if you made it "Their victory...III was the Jets' last championship appearance." 208.95.51.115 (talk) 20:03, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Clarification Request
On the list of super bowls by team, the Pittsburgh Steelers and Cleveland Browns should be colored the neutral color as the Colts are. They share the note and distinction of having been NFL teams that shifted to the AFC, but only the Colts get the color distinction. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 69.74.235.4 (talk) 16:19, 7 February 2017 (UTC)
Baltimore Ravens
A point of correction. The Baltimore Ravens were not an expansion team. The Cleveland Browns moved to Baltimore after the Colts moved to Indianapolis.The city of Cleveland retained the rights to the "Browns" name. That's why the team was re-named "Ravens". But there was no expansion at that time. Later, the current Cleveland Browns were added to the league as an expansion team. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Loosedogs (talk • contribs) 23:59, 29 April 2017 (UTC)
Super Bowl name
The article currently states that "Super Bowl III in January 1969 was the first such game that carried the "Super Bowl" moniker, the names "Super Bowl I" and "Super Bowl II" were only retroactively applied to the first two games." However, this is not true, and is easily contradicted. For example, in this famous broadcast of Max McGee's opening touchdown from Super Bowl I, you can hear the announcer saying "and the old veteran scores the first touchdown of the Super Bowl game": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dVizBENi9cQ#t=27m54s I would love to edit it, but I'm worried it would just get reverted, so I'm posting here. The reference linked does not actually support the article's statement. The game was colloquially known as the Super Bowl, it just hadn't shown up in the branding yet. laddiebuck (talk) 01:23, 9 May 2017 (UTC)
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Consecutive Winners
The New England Patriots won back to back Super Bowls (XXXVIII and XXXIX) and have won 3 out of 4 consecutive title games beginning with their first Super Bowl win (XXXVI).
Sort order for City column
Checking to see if there is any objection to me changing the sort order for the City column to correspond to the MSA. For example, I believe the sort for the following should be Los Angeles, not Pasadena (and clearly Inglewood needs to be changed).
|{{Sort|Pasadena, California 01|[[Los Angeles]], [[California]]
|{{Sort|Pasadena, California 02|Los Angeles, California (2)<ref group=note name=a />}}
|{{Sort|Pasadena, California 03|[[Pasadena, California]] (3)<ref group=note name=a />}}
|{{Sort|Pasadena, California 04|Pasadena, California (4)<ref group=note name=a />}}
|{{Sort|Pasadena, California 05|Pasadena, California (5)<ref group=note name=a />}}
|{{Sort|Pasadena, California 06|Pasadena, California (6)<ref group=note name=a />}}
|{{Sort|Pasadena, California 07|Pasadena, California (7)<ref group=note name=a />}}
|{{Sort|Inglewood, California 08|[[Inglewood, California]] (8)<ref group=note name=a />}}
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