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The New Zealand case of a "Makutu lifting" should not be included. This was a family suffering from a combination of poor education, low intelligence, mental illness and superstitution. There was no proper basis for any suspicion of demonic possession. What they called a makutu lifting was simply torture. Please remove this "example of an exorcism". |
The New Zealand case of a "Makutu lifting" should not be included. This was a family suffering from a combination of poor education, low intelligence, mental illness and superstitution. There was no proper basis for any suspicion of demonic possession. What they called a makutu lifting was simply torture. Please remove this "example of an exorcism". |
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: This could also be a good example: http://internationalschoolofexorcism.org/; you can take classes on exorcism and become a certified exorcist. I came across this info by watching a video of the establisher of that school perform an exorcist with commentary by penguinz0 at YouTube. Citations related to schools that teach exorcism:[http://www.salon.com/2014/05/04/exorcism_is_back_meet_the_mavericks_who_will_teach_you_how_to_cure_demonic_possession/][http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/arizona-reverend-performs-exorcisms-skype-article-1.1595880] --[[User:NoToleranceForIntolerance|NoToleranceForIntolerance]] ([[User talk:NoToleranceForIntolerance|talk]]) 05:56, 3 May 2017 (UTC) |
: This could also be a good example: http://internationalschoolofexorcism.org/; you can take classes on exorcism and become a certified exorcist. I came across this info by watching a video of the establisher of that school perform an exorcist with commentary by penguinz0 at YouTube. Citations related to schools that teach exorcism:[http://www.salon.com/2014/05/04/exorcism_is_back_meet_the_mavericks_who_will_teach_you_how_to_cure_demonic_possession/][http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/arizona-reverend-performs-exorcisms-skype-article-1.1595880] --[[User:NoToleranceForIntolerance|NoToleranceForIntolerance]] ([[User talk:NoToleranceForIntolerance|talk]]) 05:56, 3 May 2017 (UTC) |
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== Cultural References == |
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The cultural references section should be severely shortened or removed. Its got a listitus problem. Not every bit of pop culture that has a exorcism needs to be included. -[[User:Xcuref1endx|Xcuref1endx]] ([[User talk:Xcuref1endx|talk]]) 01:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC) |
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On the Nature of the Jinn
The Following paragraph in the section.. "On the nature of the Jinn", needs a citation from a reliable Islamic source:
A Jinn might also do it for revenge. Jinn are said to be quick to anger, especially when they believe themselves to have been harmed on purpose (since Jinn are usually invisible to humans, a person can accidentally injure a Jinni not knowing that one is there). --Haroon Nizar--
This section should be removed and any appropriate material moved to the Jinn entry.
in Islam
The Hanbali sect is the main Sunni sect that believes in Jinn being capable of possessing humans and exorcism. Otherwise, the 3 other sunni sects don't believe in that.
I removed the section on removing Jinn by vising graves and wearing amulets. It is a controversial topic, not adopted by orthodox Islam and has no references attached
A cross reference is needed
Since the page mentions the movie of The Exorcist, the page of
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edward_Hughes
should be cross referenced in my view.
To my knowledge, all the cases of the angry ghosts or devils attacking the worldly human beings are the direct consequece of the inproper human's action incurred to them in the past.
In the case of Edward Hughes encountered in 1949, which I noticed is 4 years after the World War II and I'm 90% sure that the devil is the victim or collective angry consciousness related to the World War II if one closely watches the movie and pay attention to what is scarred on the boy's chest. Again, karma will never stop manifesting what has happened and will happen to the world. As long as human being has ego views on enemies, war will never end.
Phrase?
This phase does not sound good at all
"the Holy Water especially is comparable to acid to the demon."
Examples
The New Zealand case of a "Makutu lifting" should not be included. This was a family suffering from a combination of poor education, low intelligence, mental illness and superstitution. There was no proper basis for any suspicion of demonic possession. What they called a makutu lifting was simply torture. Please remove this "example of an exorcism".
- This could also be a good example: http://internationalschoolofexorcism.org/; you can take classes on exorcism and become a certified exorcist. I came across this info by watching a video of the establisher of that school perform an exorcist with commentary by penguinz0 at YouTube. Citations related to schools that teach exorcism:[1][2] --NoToleranceForIntolerance (talk) 05:56, 3 May 2017 (UTC)
Cultural References
The cultural references section should be severely shortened or removed. Its got a listitus problem. Not every bit of pop culture that has a exorcism needs to be included. -Xcuref1endx (talk) 01:36, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
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