User talk:DrStrauss

A minor booboo fixed

It was about relisting a requested move. :) —usernamekiran(talk) 20:19, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: Facepalm! By the way, what do you think to this? DrStrauss talk 20:48, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

lol. Lets move on :)

I commented on the talkpage of the essay. —usernamekiran(talk) 23:16, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: I'm on a semi-wikibreak at the moment but I'll look and improve it when I get back! DrStrauss talk 21:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

No hurries. :) My activity has been decreased cuz of real-life too. I will try to work on that essay. Also, how to determine a "consensus" with requested moves? Not sure if I should close this move as an affirmation. I will ask Amakuru for guidance regarding a general guideline for consensus. —usernamekiran(talk) 12:08, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

@Usernamekiran: I've moved it to the Wikipedia namespace now. DrStrauss talk 20:37, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Kittie Knox

You rejected the page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Kittie_Knox, saying "This submission appears to be taken from bikinblazers.org/AS_THE_PEDALS_TURN.html." The situation is actually that site took the material from Lorenz (Larry) Finison's book, "Boston's Cycling Craze", referenced here:

   http://www.umass.edu/umpress/title/bostons-cycling-craze-1880-1900
   http://news.wgbh.org/post/larry-finison-bostons-bicycling-history
   http://www.bostonglobe.com/arts/books/2014/12/06/best-new-england-books/oNZhJVFLMkyM6mcNQVPI8H/story.html

I worked with Mr. Finison to put this Wikipedia page together, so it's ironic that since he has not been active in tracking down copyright infringers this content is coming back as being represented as plagiarism. What can we do about this situation? Mr. Finison is certainly the leading US authority on Kittie Knox as evidenced by his book on the subject. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajrsingh (talk • contribs) 03:06, 13 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Rajrsingh. First things first, if you're working with Finison, you need to disclose that on your userpage. Please see WP:COI and WP:PAID for more information. Whether Finison gives his consent to large portions of his content being used verbatim or not is irrelevant as we try to put things into our own words and not copy-paste even if copyright problems aren't an issue. DrStrauss talk 21:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

OK thanks for info DrStrauss. We're just getting started with Wikipedia publishing and having some growing pains. I'm mainly the tech enabler and Finison is the historical researcher, which leads to some hiccups along the way. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Rajrsingh (talk • contribs)

21:17:07, 14 August 2017 review of submission by Gojukai

• Gojukai (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Leo Lipinski (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I've made several changes. Any further changes you may recommend are appreciated. Also, in wake of the subjects current battle with cancer, should such be considered for inclusion?

Hi Gojukai, thanks for your message. While unfortunate, Lipinski's battle with cancer does not confer notability for a Wikipedia article. The first thing that jumps out to me is that a lot of the content is bullet-pointed. This needs changing into prose. Once you've done that, feel free to drop another message here and I'll take another look. DrStrauss talk 21:36, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Harry Ashland Greene

Dear Wiki admin,

When possible, will you please take a look at Harry's page and let me know if it can be published? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Harry_Ashland_Greene

Katie has been very kind to recover the deleted page and put it as a draft.

Thank you for your time.

Forharry (talk) 23:54, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Forharry, thank you for your message. I can't review drafts anymore as I've left AfC. FYI I'm not an administrator but KrakatoaKatie, to whom you refer in your message is, she might be able to help you. One more thing: your username suggests a conflict of interest, you might want to declare that on your userpage if this is the case. Thanks, DrStrauss talk 16:59, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi DrStrauss,

Thank you for writing back.

I shall write to Katie again in this regard.

And yes, this account was created to help put Harry's page back up. I will update my page to state this.

Thank you

Forharry (talk) 20:24, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Reliant Review

Hello DrStrauss, I rewrote this page and added more sources. Before resubmitting, I wanted to send it over to you for review and for your feedback. Please let me know what you think about the page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Draft:Reliant_Energy Thank you for your time!

(Adapt16 (talk) 19:20, 18 August 2017 (UTC))

Hello Adapt16, a few minor wording issues need fixing. For example, grand prize and banded together could be construed as puffery. You might also want to look at the Smart Home Technology section again as it appears to duplicate its statements about smart home purchases. Unfortunately, I no longer have the ability to formally review the draft so you'll have to submit it per the AFC guidelines. Thanks, DrStrauss talk 14:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Trauma trigger

Are you able to offer a justification for your addition last year of the split proposal tag to Trauma trigger. On talk, several editors have said it should be removed if there is no argument presented for a split. I don't see a reason for having a split, and I think there is insufficient content for one anyway. Tiptoethrutheminefield (talk) 20:59, 18 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Tiptoethrutheminefield, yes, sorry about that, I forgot to pick that line of inquiry up after my wikibreak. Feel free to remove the tag, I can't seem to remember why I put it there. Nice username by the way! DrStrauss talk 14:34, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Proposed deletion of Altaf Tyrewala

I am bit surprised by that note. Altaf is a fairly known Indian author credited with 3 books so far. I tidied up the article abit, added more ref and removed the self praise parts (probably added by the author himself as seen from history). Hope it works now to remove the deletion notice. Thanks Debashish (talk) 18:17, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Debashish, maybe he is notable but his article did not convey that when I PROD-ed it. DrStrauss talk 20:58, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Suggestion

You may want to try and clean up articles that aren't promotional and just lack sourcing before proposing them for deletion. It isn't too hard to clean them up—since they are totally unsourced, you can just nuke the body content a good amount of the time, and then start from scratch. It makes for a much better use of your time, as you can just fix it yourself instead of spending your time nomming these articles for deletion and having the time of other editors being spent cleaning them up. If the article has too much jargon so that you can't really find out if the sources support it, then you can just draftify it. RileyBugz^会話_投稿記録 23:10, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Noted, AfD withdrawn. DrStrauss talk 20:58, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

Feb 09 Orphans

I know there's a few of us out there actively working on it, sometimes I think we should form a club :P ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:23, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: The Olde Orphanage xD - I think the bot's a bit behind on de-tagging, I've just done 40-odd with AWB. DrStrauss talk 20:58, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

I definitely think that once the whole category is finished, there should be some kind of "backlog slayer" award for anyone who worked on the Feb 09 orphans. I've seen plenty that are linked elsewhere from ages ago that weren't de-tagged, I'm not even sure any of the orphan bots are still working. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 00:37, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: definitely, I could do with more barnstars! :P I'm finally finding PRODs somewhat effective with these - with new articles they're about as effective as a trap-door in a canoe. I've started up Twinkle logs now. (User:DrStrauss/CSD log and User:DrStrauss/PROD log) DrStrauss talk 10:57, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I keep finding ones that are ineligible for PROD because they were PRODed in like... 2006 or something (and usually dePRODed by the creator). So frustrating to have to do a full deletion discussion for that, but them's the breaks. Also, I've been finding the userscipt for checking copyvios super useful because holy crap you would not believe how much old copyvio stuff is hanging out in there. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:01, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

I could complain about it all day... Which script is this? DrStrauss talk 21:23, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: I've just done a quarry query for all articles in the category with more than one incoming link (query link) with 1,095 results. Maybe we should de-tag these? AWB de-tags when there's more than two incoming links and some of the articles are utter crap so... thoughts? DrStrauss talk 21:58, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

The copyvio script is here User:The Earwig/copyvios.js. I definitely think it's worth looking at that list. Low-hanging fruit and all. I've never been great with AWB so I'll take a look manually. You're right that some of them are atrocious though yikes. (Just so we don't overlap, I'm starting from the end fyi) ♠PMC♠ (talk) 22:59, 21 August 2017 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: will do, I think I already have it in my extended preferences. I've noticed two users have a high number in the backlog (02blythed and Zacharie Grossen) so we might want to have a look into those. DrStrauss talk 17:18, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

Yeah in addition to certain repeat users, I've noticed a lot of patterns of types of articles - members of the Nepali legislature, Romanian generals, lakes in Germany, Swiss mountains (I think Mr. Grossen is responsible for the mountains), Italian painters...if I was better with database queries / AWB stuff I'd pull out cross-referenced lists but I find it easier to go manually down the list. You find all kinds of interesting surprises that way, even though it's less efficient. ♠PMC♠ (talk) 21:15, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

@Premeditated Chaos: indeed, I'm a fan of metacognition so I'll be having a look at the queries nonetheless and if there's anything that could be useful I'll ping you :) DrStrauss talk 10:27, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Love to hear about it! ♠PMC♠ (talk) 11:44, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

COI - of a different kind

Hi DrStrauss. Because it involves New Page and AfC reviewers along with other maintenance workers (SPI, COIN), an informal chat has begun on some aspects of paid editing. See Conflict of Interest - of a different kind. Please add your thoughts there. It is not a debate or RfC.
From WP:NPPAFC. Opt-out. Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 13:24, 20 August 2017 (UTC) .

Responded at the appropriate venue. DrStrauss talk 20:58, 20 August 2017 (UTC)

21:50:10, 22 August 2017 review of submission by Cristinaclcardoso

• Cristinaclcardoso (talk · contribs)
  • Draft:Park Jimin (musician) (edit | talk | history | links | watch | logs)

I think I managed to fix everything that was "wrong" with this article. Could you be able to review it again? I would love if this article could be published soon.

Hi Cristinaclcardoso I no longer have the technical ability to review drafts but because I'm so nice (:P) I'll clean up what little there is left and publish it myself. Thanks, DrStrauss talk 10:29, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Thank you so much! I really appreciate this, thank you for being so kind. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Cristinaclcardoso (talk • contribs) 00:18, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

WikiProject Investment

Im not sure if this is something your interested in but oh well:

I'd like to invite you to join the Investment WikiProject. There are a lot of Investment related articles on Wikipedia that could use a little attention, and I hope this project can help organize an effort to improve them. So please, take a look and if you like what you see, help get this project off the ground and a few Investment pages into the front ranks of Wikipedia articles. Thanks!

— Preceding unsigned comment added by WikiEditCrunch (talk • contribs)

Hi WikiEditCrunch, not exactly my area of expertise but I'll have a look :) DrStrauss talk 19:40, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks! WikiEditCrunch (talk) 19:47, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Sports biographies/ANI

Hi. Further to the ANI thread, you did some work on this article, but it was not created by the user in question. although they did do some page moving. Thanks. Lugnuts ^{Fire Walk with Me} 18:05, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Lugnuts, yeah, I'm foreseeing my suggestion going through, I've made another comment on WP:AN. Thanks, DrStrauss talk 20:30, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Oops...

I've fudged up a move and there may be some disambiguation pages that need history merging and deletion. Relevant pages:

• RM discussion
• Bob Sikes (disambiguation)
• Bob Sykes (disambiguation)
• Robert Sykes (disambiguation)
• My contribs

Thank you so much to whoever it is who answers my plea for help :P

DrStrauss talk 19:37, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Copied to Wikipedia:Requests_for_history_merge#New_requests - Anthony is the expert on these hist merges Ronhjones  ^(Talk) 21:23, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

• Hi Ronhjones, Huon and I managed to figure it out, thanks for the copy to the board but I'll close it now :) DrStrauss talk 21:26, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

Speedy Deletion Ankit Prasad

Hello Before I have created a page Ankit Prasad. My concern is without any discussion of my claim the page is deleted please help me to recover the page and let me know the promotional so that I can changes the mistake. @DrStrauss: Regards Bullus 21:16, 23 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bullus (talk • contribs)

Hi Bullus, thank you for your message. The deletion of the page you created didn't require a community discussion per Wikipedia's speedy deletion of advertising policy. Your article was very promotional, please read this policy on neutrality before resubmitting. Pinging Hut 8.5 as the deleting admin. Thanks, DrStrauss talk 21:21, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

My concern is that was a biography article of living people I fail to understand which part is promotional please let understand me which part is promotional so that I will not repeat the mistake or please help me recover the page. @DrStrauss: Bullus 21:25, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

Indeed, my concern was that it was a biography of a living person. If it is overtly promotional it must be deleted because of potential legal implications that come with saying things about living people. I have pinged the administrator who deleted your page so they will see this discussion and if necessary respond here. Thanks, DrStrauss talk 21:31, 23 August 2017 (UTC)

The issue with this article was that it was promotional: it described the subject in a relentlessly positive tone of the type used in advertising. One of Wikipedia's core principles is neutrality, and our articles are not supposed to promote (or disparage) article subjects. This isn't a matter of one specific passage, if it was then we would have just removed that one passage instead of deleting the entire page. Hut 8.5 06:35, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

After removing all the promotional part i have created the page but it nominated for speedy deletion i have contested and i like to save this page as the said person is well known and among successful startups and and official TEDx Youth Speaker so please help me to save this page and remove the deletion notice from the page @DrStrauss: @Hut 8.5: Bullus 18:15, 24 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bullus (talk • contribs)

@Bullus: I see you've created it again. I'm also pinging EngiZe as the CSD-tagger of the second incarnation of this page. I'm afraid he still meets the criteria for speedy deletion under criterion WP:A7. DrStrauss talk 20:11, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

• Hello again @DrStrauss:

That admin is not responding so could you please help me in another way to protect this page. Will be very thankful. Regards Bullus 19:03, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

• @Bullus: it appears that the page has been protected but not in the manner you were hoping. It has been prevented from being re-created due to repeated deletions, an action which I support in this case. This means you should go through the articles for creation process. Thanks, DrStrauss talk 14:37, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Dakar Dem Dikk

You can look at my talk page if you want to know my opinion of your speedy deletion — Preceding unsigned comment added by Polyglot (talk • contribs) 17:19, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

It's rather abrupt, I can't really comment any further... DrStrauss talk 20:11, 24 August 2017 (UTC)

New Page Reviewer Newsletter

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My Willie Colón Page

Dr. Strauss, Although my additions to my bio may seem like puffery. I guarantee the changes are true. But the statement that Jerry Rivera's record out sold "SIEMBRA" is laughable, especially sincenit's uses some obscure Colombian article as the source.

I'd also like to know why my photo was removed. A bio without a photo is a disservice to a living artist activist.

Pleas help me out here.

Kind regards Willie Colón — Preceding unsigned comment added by Waccolon-sp (talk • contribs) 11:22, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Hi Waccolon-sp, I think you're talking to the wrong person: I've never edited that article. Maybe ask at the help desk? Thanks, DrStrauss talk 12:29, 25 August 2017 (UTC)

Talk:Payless ShoeSource#Requested move 20 August 2017

I request that you reopen Talk:Payless ShoeSource#Requested move 20 August 2017. Yes, we have guidelines that apply to precedents that have formed over time, but WP:IAR can apply anywhere when there is consensus for it, and that discussion had not be relisted yet. Steel1943 (talk) 16:16, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

@Steel1943: sure, feel free. I just thought that considering the backlog and low participation levels a close was justified but if there is more discussion to be had then re-open it :) DrStrauss talk 16:19, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

Thanks DrStrauss. In most cases, that makes sense ... but only after at least one relist. I mean, best get the consensus right rather than rushing things. Also, I had actually presented a follow-up comment to my previous one here, but it was {{Ec}}'d: I wanted to point out that I would have been more cautious posting a closing statement such as the one you did prior to any relist since the way I read it, it sounded like you had an opinion, thus looking like a WP:SUPERVOTE; I got burnt a few times in the past posting such closing statements without any intent of it sounding like I had an opinion in the matter. Anyways, thanks; I shall reopen. Steel1943 (talk) 16:24, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

(talk page stalker)--@Steel1943::--We judge not the number of votes but the quality of votes.RM usually suffers from low participation and when the arguments offered against the motion for move was so strong, a relist was non-necessary.As to the merits of the case, many new editors with no wiki-experience believes that the instant any company officially changes it's name, WP must reflect that. It hardly works out ever at any RM. Also, I would like to re-emphasise WP:IAR does not take precedence over policy-abiding !votes.Regards:)Anyway, thanks for yours helping out at the queues.Winged Blades of Godric^{On leave} 11:55, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

@Winged Blades of Godric and Godric on Leave: I disagree that it "hardly ever works" as I have seen otherwise multiple times; relists can occasionally result in a 180 degree turn of presumed consensus. I vehemently disagree with the notion that Wikipedia technically has "to do" anything, but rather the community decides what to do. (The only exception to that comes with blocking troublesome editors.) Since this is the 2nd time you've criticized one of my closes or contests to a close for a reason I cannot agree with ... feel free to continue this conversation on my talk page. I have no desire for such a conversation to occur on DrStrauss' talk page as my actions are my own and I would have done the same with any editor; in fact, I thank DrStrauss for taking my input/concerns so formally with understanding and ... as I did with the discussion regarding Ching Hai. Steel1943 (talk) 14:06, 29 August 2017 (UTC)

• @Godric on Leave and Steel1943: I guess you're both right in different ways. I think WP:NOTVOTE is definitely important and overall community consensus is, in normal circumstances, the way to go. At the end of the day, a relist isn't the worst thing to do, better to err on the side of caution and risk letting a discussion go stale than prevent potentially valid viewpoints from being aired. The Ching Hai case was a hybrid between the two, the SPAs were trying to game the system thinking that Wikipedia discussions are decided by mere numbers. DrStrauss talk 16:49, 29 August 2017 (UTC) PS: Steel1943: you might find WP:OA interesting :P

Edits made - can you please help reinstate page?

Hello! You rejected an article submission earlier this summer. I made edits based on your feedback and am hoping to get your help bringing it back from the dead. Can you help? Page is NAVEX_Global.

Thank you! Mboxcar (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2017 (UTC)MboxcarMboxcar (talk) 00:02, 30 August 2017 (UTC)