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Keep or remove images from product variations infobox

Please vote keep or remove. — Preceding unsigned comment added by TheUSConservative (talkcontribs) 20:22, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

Keep or remove images from product variations infobox

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Keep or remove photos in the product variant Infobox section? TheUSConservative (talk) 20:28, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]

  • Remove as per User:Black Kite - I have poor knowledge with the whole NFCC however as he says no info is lost at all- The images could easily be added to the individual articles, Not only that but having this table could set a precedent of having this table on every single drinks article which would cause a tons of problems, Anyway as per BK they should be removed. –Davey2010Talk 13:19, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Huh? Delete by policy. The images fail at least two parts of WP:NFCC, overuse (they're already used in the sub-articles) and significance (a picture of a can doesn't improve the readers knowledge). I won't revert this straight away, but these need to go. Black Kite (talk) 23:58, 2 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Not in infobox. My opinion. The images are in the table in the article, so putting the same images in the infobox is not needed and would make the infobox too crowded. I think the images are helpful to display in the article as part of the product information.CuriousMind01 (talk) 12:33, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • Hello User:Black Kite, could you please explain, what is the failure? If the image is not free, and is copyrighted, and the image is copied multiple times, is that the overuse?
For Caffeine-Free Diet Coke I see one image in the Brand table in this article, and a different image in the Caffeine-Free Diet Coke article. If the images are different, is it overuse?
Thank you,CuriousMind01 (talk) 20:22, 6 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Please read WP:NFCC, notably 3a, and especially WP:NFCC#8 - "Non-free content is used only if its presence would significantly increase readers' understanding of the article topic, and its omission would be detrimental to that understanding." If you remove these images, no information is lost because the reader can simply click on the link to find out about the subject, including a non-free image. Apart from the policy, the guideline WP:NFC says "Articles are structured ... to minimize the total number of times items of non-free content are included within the encyclopedia" This clearly doesn't meet that. And most notably. "In articles and sections of articles that consist of several small sections of information for a series of elements common to a topic ... it is inadvisable to provide a non-free image for each entry in such an article or section." not to mention "The use of non-free images arranged in a gallery or tabular format is usually unacceptable". That's pretty clear, I think. Black Kite (talk) 00:31, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
Update, per User:Black Kite's explanation of WP:NFCC above, I rely on Black Kite's knowledge to determine the images to be removed. Thank you, CuriousMind01 (talk) 00:25, 8 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]


  • Not in infobox - Summoned by bot. There are too many product variants to fit each can into the infobox, especially since the article is about the main Diet Coke. I think the tabular approach in the body of the article is more than suitable, especially since the variants are already listed in the infobox. Also, I started to remove some circular references, and as I did and saw the other articles, I realized that most of those limited and unsourced individual articles could and should be merged back into the main table. There's room. Timtempleton (talk) 23:09, 7 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • No images in the table. Is this RfC correctly worded? The article's history shows that the recent disagreement has been over the use of images in the Brand Portfolio table, and not in the infobox. Assuming that we really are talking about the table in the Brand Portfolio section, the issue is addressed in WP:NFTABLE, which requires a very good reason for having the images. And no one here has given a good reason. NewYorkActuary (talk) 08:55, 16 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
  • No - We must limit use of nonfree content to protect the project from law suits. I do not think nonfree product images enhance this article sufficiently to justify their use. Jojalozzo (talk) 20:58, 21 February 2017 (UTC)[reply]
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