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Sent by MediaWiki message delivery (talk) 00:49, 2 November 2017 (UTC)

Flamingods

I see you deleted Flamingods for a variety of reasons. I had accepted the draft last year. If you have time, please confirm that the article had been changed since, rather than I failed to do a proper COPYVIO check in February 2016. I want to be sure I didn't promote bad product. Chris Troutman (talk) 21:05, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Also, assuming it was other editors that ruined the article, I'd like to know who it was so I can properly reprimand them. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:13, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

@Chris troutman: Well, their "official site" is pretty much an exact copy of what was accepted. It doesn't list a publication date, so it's at least conceivably possible that they copied from Wikipedia rather than the other way around. However, the article at the edit accepting it is still full of, for example "...joining forces on various musical projects and detangling myriad influences from other lands and times...", "...experimental music that captured the imagery and spirituality of far flung cultures...", "... one fateful 8-hour chalet jam at ATP festival later and Flamingods had officially graduated from it’s initial solo bedroom project in Bahrain to a full fledged band...", "The group puts a focus on exploration and experimentation, often taking influence from different cultures around the world by use of an extensive collection of instruments from as far as Nepal, Thailand, Indonesia, Turkey, Japan and Tanzania.", and that's solely from the lead and first paragraph. The rest of the article is all in the same vein. That should have been not only clearly rejected as promotional, but nominated for G11. It was almost a couple years ago, though, so you may not have been as experienced then. But in the future, don't accept articles with promotional or "talking up" language, copyvio or not. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 22:25, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Well, I screwed up. Thanks for cleaning up my mess. Chris Troutman (talk) 22:30, 4 November 2017 (UTC)

Please review and give your advice

Following our recent discussion on COI article submissions I would like to ask for your help reviewing Joe Ikhinmwin article. Did I place the COI tag at the correct place? Sandbox articles don't have Talk pages so I placed it on top. I also added the information on the article at my user page. Please confirm that I follow the process correctly. --Bbarmadillo (talk) 20:58, 7 November 2017 (UTC)

@Bbarmadillo: I've been swamped with a software release, but it looks like you've gotten things worked out. I appreciate your willingness to work with it and do it correctly. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 17:35, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

:@Seraphimblade: Thank you. -- Bbarmadillo (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

Ill advised at Depth charge

Don't make stuff up. Who advised May?

Glrx (talk) 17:58, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

@Glrx: "Ill advised" is a common expression meaning poorly thought through. It does not literally mean that someone was advised. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 19:06, 11 November 2017 (UTC)

And to act stupidly means to act without common sense. There was advice about the Japanese weapon systems. Those would be military secrets. There was no advice to spill such secrets. If he contemplated revealing the secrets, then his revelation was deliberate. If he acted stupidly, then he's off the hook. Otherwise, it is treason.

I get the sense of a politically correct driveby without consulting or understanding the material. People act stupidly. The author was not giving his opinion that the act was stupid but rather that Lockwood and company thought the act was stupid. Thing about a submariner who opens up a Pearl Harbor newspaper and reads about the Japanese not knowing to set their depth charges deeper.

Some dictionaries state that a synonym for "ill-advised" is stupid.

Glrx (talk) 22:57, 16 November 2017 (UTC)

Help with article contribution

The article, Arjan Roskam, was recently reverted to an earlier, spam-free version. I understand the reasoning, and it was not my intention to spam. I'm wondering if you'll help me make legitimate contributions to this page, as I believe there are relevant sources for this individual, as well as my own personal photographs. It would be great if I could send you a draft or drafts of proposed contributions before any attempt to edit the page again. I assume you are very busy, any help here would be greatly appreciated. Thank you. Barrwk (talk) 15:21, 12 November 2017 (UTC)

@Barrwk: It looks like this is pretty much the only subject you've edited on. If you're being paid or compensated to edit about this (including being asked or expected to do so as a duty of employment), then that's okay, but you are required to disclose that fact if it's so. Seraphimblade ^{Talk to me} 23:34, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

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Behavioral and content dispute

Hi! Im contacting you because you are listed as an editor willing to provide behavioral and content assistance. I would like you to take a look at the content dispute and the behavior of the editors Katolophyromai, Khirurg and Dr. K as well Kuru, the administrator that backs them .

The full content dispute of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Pythagoras is found here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?diff=811537461 since a fellow friend editor Dr. K who seems to be a meatpuppet of the editor I am having the dispute with erased my last entry. I would like you to look at the sources I have provided and my analysis on the source his has provided (which leaves out plenty of ancient biographers that state Pythagoras's father was from Tyre) and to bring an objective view into this discussion.

I would also like you to look into this editors behaviors as him and fellow editor friends (Dr K and Khirurg) seem to be meatpuppets as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Sock_puppetry#Meatpuppetry. When editor Katolophyromai felt like he was losing the debate he resorted to accusing me of sockpuppeting to his fellow meatpuppet Dr. K which you can look at here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Dr.K.#ViamarisBalbi_is_back_under_two_new_sockpuppet_accounts

This is the second (or perhaps third) time Katolophyromai and Khirurg has gotten help from his fellow friend editor Dr. K who does not participate in the discussions/talk page in a productive/objective way but is always ready to take their side and game the system as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Gaming_the_system to support his friend editors with their edit reversals. The previous time they accused ViamarisBalbi of personal attacks against the editor he was having a content dispute and got him blocked when in reality if you look at his appeal on his talk page he really wasnt making personal attacks. Dr. K always resorts to administrator Kuru who always takes their side and does not seem to care that editors Katolophyromai, Khirurg and Dr. K are involved in the edit reversal of sourced contents which is obvious vandalism and POV pushing. You can see previous examples of their meatpuppetry in the following cases:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thales_of_Miletus#Phoenicia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thales_of_Miletus#Trash_source https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Thales_of_Miletus#Ancient_sources_and_19th_century_sources https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Euclid#Arabian_sources_of_Euclid https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Euclid&diff=810206844&oldid=810205477 (Here Dr. K supports Khirug act of vandalism in which Khirug puts down a statement from a very legitimate source and adds his own and removes an important blue link in the sentence) https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atomism&diff=809056910&oldid=808621458 (Here Khirug removed ViamarisBalbi edit that has a legitimate source and later here https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atomism&diff=810213721&oldid=810211103 Dr. K helps him doing the same Khirug does it again here without a legitimate reason/discussion https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Atomism&diff=810230721&oldid=810221056

Katolophyromai, Khirurg and Dr. K as well Kuru, all edit on similar articles related to Ancient Greece and Greek nationalism. It also happens that their usernames all sound Greek and start with letter K which makes their connection seem a bit too obvious and suspicious. I would highly appreciate your time and help on looking on this. ViamarisBalbi and I believe that legitimate sockpuppeting might be the only way to stop this harassment since filling ISP reports for meatpuppeting sometimes get lost in limbo or take too long to be reviewed and these editors wont stop Wikihouding as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Harassment#Wikihounding and continue their witch hunt as per https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Witch_hunt to prevent ViamarisBalbi and CalinicoFire from making sourced contributions. ThanksCalinicoFire (talk) 23:14, 24 November 2017 (UTC)

Seraphimblade, please feel free to handle this as you may see fit. But note that CF has filed at 3O, DRN, MEDCOM, and NPOVN and made the same request as this on Xavexgoem's talk page (who hasn't edited here since June). I've closed the DRN and MEDCOM filings, but left the others. Just FYI and best regards, TransporterMan (TALK) 22:43, 24 November 2017 (UTC)