Talk:Anthony Ashley-Cooper, 7th Earl of Shaftesbury

Family

Please insert the following information: Anthony 7th Earl of Shaftesbury and Emily had 10 children: Antony, Francis, Maurice, Evelyn, Lionel, Victoria, Mary, Constance, Edity and Cecil. I obtained this information from the genealogy of the Ashley-Cooper Family in "The Seventh Earl" By Grace Irwin

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Based on this individual being included in the Calendar of saints (Anglican Church of Australia), I am adding the Category:Anglican saints and the Saints WikiProject banner to this article. I am awaiting reliable sources which can be used to add the content to the article. John Carter 16:51, 29 June 2007 (UTC)

Text from parallel article Anthony Ashley Cooper, 9th Earl of Shaftesbury, reformatted to wrap properly but with typos intact. This reads like an old article from The Children's Encyclopedia, but I don't know if that's where it came from:

Piccadilly Circus is the centre of London where many streets meet. In the middle of the Piccadilly there is a small island of stone, and on the island there is a statue called Eros. Eros holds a bow and arrow, and leans forward as if he is flying over London.On the steps below him women used to sit with baskets of violets and snowdrops, or bunches of pink carnations and tight little rosebuds.

All around are buses and lorries, and taxis and cars coming from north and south and east and west.Day and night the busy London traffic swirls round the small, stone island, and day after day people hurry past on their way to shops and theatres and staions and offices.

Everyone knowws Eros. Taxi drivers look up at him and say,

"Ah,Eros!Here we are at Piccadilly!"

Children, holding tightly to their mothers' hands as they cross the road, try to catch a gimpse of him between the rows of traffic. But no one seems to have time to go up the steps, and read the words that are written below the statue. Many people, though they know Eros so well, don't know at all why he is there.

He is there to remind them opf a story about a man called the Earl of Shaftesbury, who spent his whole life heping children.

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Dcoetzee 03:27, 1 April 2009 (UTC)

Terribly unbalanced article

The article is utterly misleading, because it focuses on a very minor aspect of Shaftesbury's life. His main interest was in the improvement of conditions for the poor, where he transformed UK legislation. This gets only a skimpy paragraph. By contrast there is endless stuff about Israel.

Can someone with time and knowledge rebalance this? 213.123.44.130 (talk) 12:51, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree. He is known foremost as a social reformer and to give such weight to a minor issue is to leave the article unbalanced. I have made a start.--Britannicus (talk) 23:12, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

I agree too, although I think Britannicus went a bit far by deleting the other topic completely. I will add something back in commensurate with the current balance. Oncenawhile (talk) 09:29, 12 December 2012 (UTC)

There is still too much about his support for a Jewish homeland. I've read his Oxford DNB entry and there is nothing about his support for this cause, just a sentence about his support for a Protestant bishopric in Jerusalem. Georgina Battiscombe's biography doesn't contain anything about this either. For this to take up so much space in the article gives undue weight to it.--Britannicus (talk) 17:36, 21 February 2013 (UTC)

Opium

Shaftesbury was a leading critic of the opium wars and trade, and there's no mention of this in the entry. It deserves a full section. Please message me if you can help me. I'm only a WikiGnome and not used to adding content. --StringRay (talk) 21:18, 10 April 2015 (UTC)

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Not clear

It is not clear how long Cooper was at Manor House school. He is said to have started there in 1808 and 1812. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.21.169 (talk) 11:46, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

Manor House school in Chiswick in London seems to have closed down some time ago. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.21.169 (talk) 13:22, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

It had been turned into an asylum by 1845. See https://www.british-history.ac.uk/vch/middx/vol7/pp95-99 — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.133.21.169 (talk) 13:25, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

It seems to have closed down between 1835 and 1845.